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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4235 Posts
October 24 2011 18:51 GMT
#81
Not this again....I want rainbows and smiles and all that shit...not this cloud hovering BW, making it look grim

I hope its false...and either way Im sad for Reality and Turn...either because they're being accused of such without any reason for it or for being guilty of this brutal stupidity. It makes me sad either way =/
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 24 2011 18:51 GMT
#82
fuck
Translator:3
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
October 24 2011 18:51 GMT
#83
This is not nearly as bad as the match fixing scandal though, if it is even true. It could be that the players were just contacted by the guy they smurfed for and that they asked them to smurf in return for money, of which the players didn't know the source.

It would still be a shitty thing to do but let's not overreact just yet
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 18:52:31
October 24 2011 18:51 GMT
#84
the fuk?

BW already dying, why people wana kill a puppy like that... Also this time its samsung Khan T_T
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 18:55:45
October 24 2011 18:55 GMT
#85
On October 25 2011 03:36 konadora wrote:
wait, reality and turn?

FUCK. seriously....

at least they aren't involved in actual match fixing or betting (supposedly, as of now), and only fake substitution (which is a much much less serious case, i believe it to be anw)


If they accepted money it's as bad match fixing because from that point they could be blackmailed into throwing their own games. (edit: well, almost as bad)

If it was just smurfing then it's a relatively small mistake and they should get away with a warning or short suspension.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 24 2011 18:59 GMT
#86
Well... god fucking damnit. The last thing BW needs -_-' Luckily we still have good news from KesPA I guess, regarding new teams etc ^_^ keeping positive~~
memes are a dish best served dank
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
October 24 2011 19:04 GMT
#87
lol, just what BW needs more bullshit drama....
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
October 24 2011 19:05 GMT
#88
On October 25 2011 03:51 infinitestory wrote:
fuck


This time a thousand, seriously what the FUCK man.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 24 2011 19:10 GMT
#89
pros smurfing for amateurs in clan tournaments is pretty common but I don't understand how there was so much betting money involved.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 24 2011 19:11 GMT
#90
T_T

I kind of liked Turn...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
October 24 2011 19:18 GMT
#91
Wait a second. A few matches on BrainClan server and we're talking about more than ten million wons in bets? And we're accusing Samsung Khan rookies for smurfing and calling a match fixing incident vol.2? Am I the only person who gets logic errors?

1- 10s of millions of wons on BrainClan matches? I wouldn't bet a single won on some shit like that.
2- What happens if 2 random progamers smurf into those tournaments? Is there a fucking rule that disallows progamers playing on BrainClan? Well, there is none on West Starleague, I don't think there is a rule for this in Brain either.

Suspend those guys for 2 matches tops and we got ourselves a deal.

On October 25 2011 03:05 JiPrime wrote:
Heh. I knew about this for awhile, just didn't post here because pretty much NOTHING is confirmed right now. Though the two did admit smurfing, but they say there is no money involved. It's all just accusations from 철구, a BW Afreeca broadcast junkie. If he doesn't back it up with evidence then he's gonna get sued by Samsung Khan. But then again, there were some phone calls going through during the broadcast. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Samsung Khan trying to settle things quietly. It's still pretty dissappointing that these two are taking their integrity as pro players lightly. If this turns out to be a real deal then BW is screwed.

CheolGu is 1a2a3a[fOu], ex-STX Soul progamer by the way.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 24 2011 19:19 GMT
#92
Derp. Like Khan can lose any players right now...
Hello
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
October 24 2011 19:22 GMT
#93
Why, Reality and Turn? Why? Think of the scene before yourselves.

I was hoping the last match fixing would be the last.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
October 24 2011 19:22 GMT
#94
On October 25 2011 04:18 Djagulingu wrote:
Wait a second. A few matches on BrainClan server and we're talking about more than ten million wons in bets? And we're accusing Samsung Khan rookies for smurfing and calling a match fixing incident vol.2? Am I the only person who gets logic errors?

1- 10s of millions of wons on BrainClan matches? I wouldn't bet a single won on some shit like that.
2- What happens if 2 random progamers smurf into those tournaments? Is there a fucking rule that disallows progamers playing on BrainClan? Well, there is none on West Starleague, I don't think there is a rule for this in Brain either.

Suspend those guys for 2 matches tops and we got ourselves a deal.

Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 03:05 JiPrime wrote:
Heh. I knew about this for awhile, just didn't post here because pretty much NOTHING is confirmed right now. Though the two did admit smurfing, but they say there is no money involved. It's all just accusations from 철구, a BW Afreeca broadcast junkie. If he doesn't back it up with evidence then he's gonna get sued by Samsung Khan. But then again, there were some phone calls going through during the broadcast. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Samsung Khan trying to settle things quietly. It's still pretty dissappointing that these two are taking their integrity as pro players lightly. If this turns out to be a real deal then BW is screwed.

CheolGu is 1a2a3a[fOu], ex-STX Soul progamer by the way.


Woah, hold up....1a2a3a...as in the Terror? the screaming asian man who makes such lovely videos?
This the same dude?
The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
October 24 2011 19:23 GMT
#95
Wow you think people would have learned from last time because of how harsh the response was :|
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Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
October 24 2011 19:25 GMT
#96
God fucking damnit. I really hope this isn't true
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33513 Posts
October 24 2011 19:27 GMT
#97
Very little has been confirmed 100%, except the fact that Turn and Reality played in the place of some amateur players. Please don't jump to conclusions yet.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 19:32:26
October 24 2011 19:31 GMT
#98
On October 25 2011 04:22 TheGlassface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 04:18 Djagulingu wrote:
Wait a second. A few matches on BrainClan server and we're talking about more than ten million wons in bets? And we're accusing Samsung Khan rookies for smurfing and calling a match fixing incident vol.2? Am I the only person who gets logic errors?

1- 10s of millions of wons on BrainClan matches? I wouldn't bet a single won on some shit like that.
2- What happens if 2 random progamers smurf into those tournaments? Is there a fucking rule that disallows progamers playing on BrainClan? Well, there is none on West Starleague, I don't think there is a rule for this in Brain either.

Suspend those guys for 2 matches tops and we got ourselves a deal.

On October 25 2011 03:05 JiPrime wrote:
Heh. I knew about this for awhile, just didn't post here because pretty much NOTHING is confirmed right now. Though the two did admit smurfing, but they say there is no money involved. It's all just accusations from 철구, a BW Afreeca broadcast junkie. If he doesn't back it up with evidence then he's gonna get sued by Samsung Khan. But then again, there were some phone calls going through during the broadcast. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Samsung Khan trying to settle things quietly. It's still pretty dissappointing that these two are taking their integrity as pro players lightly. If this turns out to be a real deal then BW is screwed.

CheolGu is 1a2a3a[fOu], ex-STX Soul progamer by the way.


Woah, hold up....1a2a3a...as in the Terror? the screaming asian man who makes such lovely videos?
This the same dude?

Yeap, the man himself. As you see here.



Btw I love when he writes '컨트롤' (Control) in chat, the part he drone drills (0.40).

Man this is so bad. If this is real, my favorite 2 rookies will get some punishment, if it's not, my favorite afreeca bangsong joki will get sued.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
October 24 2011 19:33 GMT
#99
This makes me so sad. I hope it's only the substitution thing and that they didn't take money for it or anything. BW doesn't need this crap.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 24 2011 19:33 GMT
#100
sigh. just reading this makes me feel embarrassed.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
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