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Alright, this is pretty self-explanatory. Vote on the concept of the unit as a whole, and don't vote on numbers unless they're significant (IE, you believe the Tempest should be a tier 1 unit and any other way it's useless).
The final question in each race's poll is whether you like the direction that Blizzard is taking each race's playstyle. Keep in mind the other races' changes as well when considering this option.
I get that the polls aren't laid out well and don't look very pretty right now, but that shouldn't be an issue.
Terran:
Poll: Do you like the Terran Battle HellionYes (1360) 65% No (746) 35% 2106 total votes Your vote: Do you like the Terran Battle Hellion (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Do you like the Terran Shredder?Yes (1174) 57% No (883) 43% 2057 total votes Your vote: Do you like the Terran Shredder? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Do you like the Terran Warhound?No (1074) 54% Yes (912) 46% 1986 total votes Your vote: Do you like the Terran Warhound? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Do you think these T units fill the problems of the race as a whole?Yes (1153) 69% No (521) 31% 1674 total votes Your vote: Do you think these T units fill the problems of the race as a whole? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Zerg:
Poll: Do you like the Zerg Viper?Yes (1656) 84% No (306) 16% 1962 total votes Your vote: Do you like the Zerg Viper? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Do you like the Zerg Swarm Host?Yes (1199) 64% No (681) 36% 1880 total votes Your vote: Do you like the Zerg Swarm Host? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Do you think these Z units fill the problems of the race as a whole?Yes (1272) 75% No (418) 25% 1690 total votes Your vote: Do you think these Z units fill the problems of the race as a whole? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Protoss:
Poll: Do you like the Protoss Replicant?No (1464) 73% Yes (550) 27% 2014 total votes Your vote: Do you like the Protoss Replicant? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Do you like the Protoss Oracle?No (1265) 66% Yes (664) 34% 1929 total votes Your vote: Do you like the Protoss Oracle? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Do you like the Protoss Tempest?Yes (1079) 57% No (804) 43% 1883 total votes Your vote: Do you like the Protoss Tempest? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Do you think these P units fill the problems of the race as a whole?No (1512) 79% Yes (394) 21% 1906 total votes Your vote: Do you think these P units fill the problems of the race as a whole? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
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Hmm, I think Blizzard is generally moving in the right direction. Will need to do a lot of beta testing and tinkering imo. Swarm host just doesnt look strong to me imo, it's a ground broodlord >_>
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I think the oracle is kind of bad, but i REALLY love the tempest. And i especially love the temporary canons of gateway, finally p has a possibility to actually defend with a gateway first just like t and z ( spines and bunkers). and apparently day nine did a nice pylon rush against jp where he planted pylons behind the mineral line and used that ability to "canon rush" :D
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Seems the community is real conflicted at the moment, maybe the poll will show something different later.
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I will only like the Viper if its name is changed to Defiler. Im not using a unit that reminds me of a douchey underachieving 90s bully with a snake tatoo on his arm; which is used by shaking his arm back and forth to allow the snake rattle. Fun fact, snakes are a reptile. Also Viper is a stupid name.
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Looks like the community likes everything new kinda maybe.
I definitely agree with the new toss units notmfixing stuff. Make carriers better!
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United States983 Posts
The warhound/swarm host seem like a huge slap in the face by blizzard. They don't want to copy BW, so they make worse versions and very similar mechanics of classic units loved by most from the community. It makes no sense.
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I like this thread. It's nice to get a close up look at what the community thinks
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Why is TL hatin on the toss units..I think theyre amazing and will definitely help the race out a TON
(<--- zerg player)
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Yea, the toss units are a joke. A bunch of cutesy units that won't actually do shit.
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On October 23 2011 05:48 kofman wrote:
Yea, the toss units are a joke. A bunch of cutesy units that won't actually do shit.
I agree that toss is once again getting gimmicky units that are flashy on paper, but I'm not upset with the tempest at all. I think that unit will be pretty awesome.
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All of the units, INCLUDING THE ORACLE, add utility.
I'm most excited for the zerg units, because I play Zerg. Swarm Hosts, from what I saw in Dustin Browder's videos, fire too slow. They need to fire at broodlord speeds.
The Viper is going to be awesome. Vipers pull in the colossus, infestor's NP them, GG.
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Toss nexus abilities more than make up for these bad units though. Recall solves deathball nature, Shield solves early game weakness
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Swarm Host doesn't make sense to me. It's basically a brood lord, but you can also do about the same thing with burrowed infestors. You can just use infested terrans in the exact same way, and have more control over when to spawn them and where.
I don't like the Viper's pulling ability, but the other ones seem pretty cool.
I don't know if the replicant really fits, and the oracle needs some work. The tempest seems alright.
Terran units I'm pretty happy with, other than the model for the Warhound. I think it needs to look a little more stable in the legs.
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On October 23 2011 05:47 decaf wrote:The warhound is ridiculously ugly. + Show Spoiler +
J5 rocked man!
On a more serious note, I think all of the units have great potential... absolutely no point in trying to judge their actual usefulness yet; far too early.
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The unit I really just don't understand is the battle hellion. The counter to "a hellion only costs 100 minerals" is "well, that's because a hellion can ONLY be used for harass and scouting, and it's a terrible unit in a straight up fight" so what does blizzard do? Make the hellion a viable unit in a straight up fight.
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United States983 Posts
The toss units are a great addition..the real problem is still the colossus and shittiness of gateway units design theme they seem to want to infinitely ignore. Who knows how the tempest will turn out, seems fairly unimaginative (an upgraded voidray with AA splash?) but it has a cute model.
Why don't they just throw in a bunch of campaign units and let everyone have fun and THEN decide what to keep and what to cut?
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Swarm host's entire job seems to be providing cannon fodder for other units to do damage to entrenched positions. I think zerglings will be cheaper/more mobile replacements for small groups of enemies and brood lords are much better for large groups. We'll have to see how effective it is at its job but judging from the video, 9 swarm hosts took awhile to take down 1.5 bunkers.
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