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![[image loading]](http://steinertalent.com/media/uploads/btb_bill_murray/images/Bill_Murray_old.jpg) This is my official campaign post! It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray! Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office. Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie. Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will! A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town! Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type. ![[image loading]](http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Bill_Murray_you.jpg) You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray! + Show Spoiler + Yes I'm 100% serious | ||
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On January 13 2012 14:48 kitaman27 wrote: Foolishness, I don't see how it is logical to campaign for another player, considering you know your own alignment. Lets not turn the first day into a discussion on whether or not BM's past incidents warrant risking him becoming the center of attention. The entire game is going to be about BM if he is elected, which is not ideal. You admit there are going to be numerous people that wish to policy lynch him based on his spammy playstyle, how does electing him solve that problem? What a selfish thing to say! I am only concerned about the interests of the town, this has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with... BILL MURRAY BILL MURRAY is proven to be active, and he'll be on his best behavior and bring out his best ability. That's what I want in a mayor. I read these other campaigns and see the dull tripe that is normally associated with campaigns "vote for me! I swear I'm good!" blah de blah. It's impossible to tell what these player's agenda's are. But with BILL MURRAY we know exactly what we are getting when we put him into office. | ||
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On January 13 2012 15:11 Erandorr wrote: Foolishness, first of, what a beautiful campaign, you made more sense than anyone else until now. I am wondering, however, why you think that our focus should be to get the roles away from potentially strong mafia players instead of trying to protect potentially good town players in a massive game like this? The incarcerate ability seems like more of an asset to the mafia than the town (it's almost like a roleblocker). The extra votes will help mafia if it gets down near lylo. With 10 mafia I think it's safe to say we got some blue power on our side (exactly what or how is unknown, but it's there). I think it's better to halt the mafia from getting additional benefits then protecting a potentially good player. As you said a good town player is only "potentially" good. Even the best players have off games for whatever reasons. A mafia team won't "potentially" use those abilities correctly, they will. | ||
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On January 13 2012 15:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote: The sheriff is a jailkeeper, which can be used very well for the town if put into the right hands, either offensively or defensively. Why do you think it's better for scum? I'm checking if the mayor/sheriff can be roleblocked right now, but if they can't then that means that we would have an assured protection in the form of the sheriff, which is extremely powerful for town. Also, I didn't notice the mayor gets a triple vote, disregard what I said about the mayor not being that good besides protection for a good player. How can the town effectively use the power? The only thing I can see it being used for is as a medic, but it's a bit worthless on nearly any blue role. Incarcerating a mafia is only going to reduce KP if the planets are aligned (i.e. there are the right number of mafia alive) or there's the lucky chance you get one of the mafia power roles (which we don't even know exist). The power is more useful late game (if it even gets to that point) but only for protecting a townie. And considering we don't have free PMing it's even more worthless as it'd be much better for coordinating behind the scenes. | ||
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On January 14 2012 00:50 Kurumi wrote: Why would someone create a campaign for someone else without seeing him post ever? If anyone is voting for someone partly with the reason of "he's a good player" then they are doing the same thing. Don't know why you choose to call me out instead of any of the other lackluster votes. At least I have a plan and reasoning. | ||
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On January 14 2012 09:05 Jayjay54 wrote: Hmm. As this thread slowed down a bit, could all the candidates please say what their lynch plan for day one is and why? would be quite nice for the town! As I speak on the behalf of the candidacy of the one and only BILL MURRAY I can tell you right now that he will be lynching Chaosquo. | ||
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Mattchew For Mayor! You heard it from me first! No I am not giving up on my campaign for the one and only BILL MURRAY. Rather it has come to my attention that my other client, the esteemed Mattchew the Mason has decided to run for mayor as well! How do I know my client is a mason? Duh! I have only been talking to him all day long! And he will come in shortly to confirm that! Of course he has chosen to done this because he thinks it is best for him to claim mason. I am not sure how I personally feel about the other mason's claiming but I can tell you this: Mattchew is most certainly a town mason and not a mafia one, and the both of us think he will be perfect in office. You should obviously be taking this with a grain of salt, but if I thought Mattchew was actually a mafia mason I'd be saying so right now in a very "haha sucker!" sort of manor. Since I'm not you can be sure that I have done my analysis and confirmed that he is innocent (and I encourage everyone to do the same based on his thread posts). That said Mattchew has my full support in getting into office. Let's face it, none of us what to get screwed over in the event that BC is mafia. The thought of BC laughing hysterically after the game is over at playing us all for fools is not something that sits right in my stomach (not that I think he's actually mafia, but better safe than sorry right?) Thus let's take a more simpler approach and vote a mason who we know will be giving his all and not screwing us behind the scenes! Mattchew For Mayor! | ||
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Mattchew wanted to publicly claim mason because he thought it was a good idea. He wanted to do this when BC was talking about the mass mason claim (check time stamps if you don't believe me). He said he wanted to run for mayor after claiming, and I told him he should only claim if he plans on running for mayor (as just straight up claiming at this point is stupid in my opinion). He said he would run for mayor and wanted me to endorse him first as a way of showing that he mason'd me. Thus I made my post, and he followed with his almost immediately. I did not out him in the thread. The PM logs all confirm this. Also BC, stop acting stupid. You claimed to get yourself into office for the sake of the town. Mattchew followed in your lead (GUESS WHAT HES CONFIRMED NOW HUR DUR) because he thought your plan was good. For you to go around dismissing him was only hurting your case. I'm still going to vote for you though because I believe that putting a townie in office is more important than anything (I am not voting you because I think you will help lead the town or think you will do a good job scum hunting, I can do all of that myself). I'm also a bit pissed off at the amount of times I'm seeing "WIFOM" in peoples' posts when making an argument. Seriously guys the player list in this game is great, if people are still making one liner posts with "everything you say is WIFOM" then we should just treat this like a newbie game. If I was an acronym vigi I'd be shooting all of you tonight. The amount of lazy arguments is just honestly amazing. With that said, I would like to expand on one of my earlier suspicions: Macpo. At the time the list of people that said I was suspicious of was based off a quick filter look, but now that I have had some time to reread everything, this is someone everyone should take a closer look at. The main reasons I say this are all fairly easy to spot: he references himself as a newbie (more than once I think), he tries to "befriend" everyone, and he fails to take a definite stance on anything happening in the thread. | ||
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On January 15 2012 06:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Man, it took me two hours to read through the thread again, and I was going to yell, but don't worry I wont. Just for the love of everything good and pure, PLEASE STOP SPAMMING. Right now, we have a terrible and confusing town atmosphere, that isn't actually conducive to winning the game or catching scum. So:
Right now, people are finally talking somewhat about who they want the mayor to be, but they're also disregarding that we have two open slots to fill. I have a town read on WBG, and I'd like to see him in one of the slots, so that's where my vote's going for now. It's possible I change it later, though, but people (including myself) really need to start voting. ##Vote: WBG I'm still trying to sift through the BC/Incog/Foolishness chaos, and I'll let you know about my thoughts on that later, depending on how I actually form them. Right now, it seems like GGQ is scum, and I'm also getting scum-vibes from Kingjames. Incog and I are causing chaos by being part of the few people who provided some analysis against other players? o.O | ||
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Please remember this post, and come back to it after I die! Remember that I die night 1 a lot because I fingered a mafia day 1! Macpo zeks chaosquo evantrees Giygas Nisani201 Adam4167 Mr. Wiggles Jayjay54 Jackal58 Slarder - Just pressure him and he'll reveal his true colors. Trust me on this one. GGQ - kinda shady...watch him closely And remember, you heard everything here from me first! I was also first to suggest Mapco as a target! | ||
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On January 17 2012 11:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: EBWOP: I forgot to add Macpo to the FoS list. Pretty interesting how you just mentioned Macpo now and decided to (almost) ignore him completely from the start of the game. In fact I find it very very very interesting that you make a lot of posts like these... On January 17 2012 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Nope hiro, we're lynching GGQ today. You don't have a very strong case against sandroba and neither do any of the other jubjubs calling for his death right now. We lynch GGQ today, tomorrow we lynch any of the people who have popped out of the woodwork to defend him. Also for those viewers who are keeping track back home, I'm working my way through the filters of the players I talked about in my post last night, I should have something on who is who in a few hours. ...while choosing to ignore a lynch candidate who is under attack from arguably the 2 best scumhunters in this game. Hey Incog, I found another mafia! | ||
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On January 17 2012 11:08 sandroba wrote: Also L I recognize that type of play from last game. Who the fuck you think is scum? Nice blabbering and walls of nothing. I'd be up for a L lynch aswel. damn you beat me to it  | ||
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On January 17 2012 11:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hey look who decided to show up! Does it matter when I call people out? The entire list I made from a few posts ago was composed of people I had ignored from the start of the game. Is there a set time when I'm allowed to call people out? And if by "choosing to ignore a lynch candidate who is under attack from arguably the 2 best scumhunters in this game" you mean sandroba than I don't have much faith in "the 2 best scumhunters." I'm referring to Macpo...you know the guy who myself and Incog called out on day 1 and then came in with a hilariously bad defense post, and has since gone afk? | ||
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On January 17 2012 11:30 Protactinium wrote: Actually, I beat you all. No worries though. It seems pretty clear who is on the right track and who is not at this point. Yes I know, but I wasn't entirely sure about L just based on your analysis and his posts up to that point. When he made that post that sandroba is referring to is when it clicked in my head. | ||
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I am making this post as a way of compiling the thoughts of the few people in this game who are making sense and posting good analysis. A lot of it will be my own thoughts, but it's heavily based on a few people (should be obvious) who are the most transparent and the most obvious townies. 9 Mafia remaining. Here's the preliminary suspects: Macpo, GGQ, L. These are the people I feel we have the best case for and most of the transparent people in the thread seem to agree about these 3. Personally I think GGQ is town and we should avoid lynching him for now. Protact already gave viable reasons why Macpo is better than GGQ today, and I feel there is little to argue there. sandroba pointed out how L is acting like in Ver's game, and I couldn't agree more. We also have Incog's analysis against L. Secondary suspects: Bill Murray, chaosquo, evantrees. These 3 people have garnered attention from a few people but not from everyone, so they are listed as secondary candidates. I am of the belief that all 3 of these people are mafia. evantrees is already mentioned by Incog. I think Cyber_Cheese highlighted a good summary of chaosquo here. Most of it is similar arguments to Macpo. Bill Murray as red? I think so. Others have cast suspicion but there's not been a full analysis anywhere. A few people have commented that the election "feels" weird in some way, and I definitely sympathize. The votes for Bill Murray come across as the most suspicious: lots of random votes there. Personally I was surprised he even got into office (remember I was out all day so I saw the results without reading the previous 20 pages). I do realize I may have initially pushed him into candidacy, but I shall take responsibility for that and see to it that he's lynched in the near future. But to be simple: Bill Murray posted a lot, and got into office. Since then he's been pretty passive at the helm (so has BC I realize). That's good enough reason to warrant a ton of suspicion, as he should be actively scumhunting and posting without fear at this point. Remaining mafia candidates: Jackal, Opz, kingjames, zeks. Incog has an analysis against Jackal as we know. I am not on board with him being mafia yet. Traditionally when he is mafia he posts paragraphs, and not one-liners. However he warrants suspicion for having an apathetic attitude. Opz is someone who I believe Sheth was the first to cast doubt on, and I must say Sheth is definitely onto something. I know of the past Opz as a town player who is aggressive, not afraid to call people out on their bullshit. That's something we aren't seeing much of this game. He's posted a few of his own thoughts, but there is a clear lack of effort. Bored townie who is facepalming at having to read 100 pages? Possibly. Mafia hiding in the shadows? Fits better. kingjames is called out on by Incog, and there's further analysis by BC. His last sentence is the perfect sum to kingjames: "The key thing to note is that in contrast to his town play where he is outgoing and analytical, his posts in this game are very subdued, seem artificial and feel overly planned." kingjames has yet to do anything to contradict this. zeks I felt strongly about yesterday, he made a bad post which is nothing like his normal outspoken attitude (though it's been a while since he's played I think). He has since asked for a replacement and hasn't posted, but should still be looked at in the future. Meapak_Ziphh is someone I would like to throw out there as a candidate (which shouldn't be a surprise from the few of my recent posts). What has Meapak done this game? Tried to get GGQ lynched, and unfortunately that's about all he's tried to do. There is a very aggressive push from him to kill this guy, which I find a little suspicious and slightly out of character. Mafia: Macpo, GGQ, L, Bill Murray, chaosquo, evantrees, Opz, Kingjames, Meapak_Ziphh. Substitute a few off candidates and I think we've found our 9: Jackal, BrownBear, zeks, Munk-E, other random inactive player goes here. DONT LOSE THIS POST ITS SO IMPORTANT! Writing all that I think the usefulness of this post is immediately made clear. The most prominent townies and the ones doing the analysis are all right on most of their reads. It's just each person has found 2-3 mafia on their own, and most of the time they are all different. Pooling this information together I realize it's hard to call anyone and their analysis wrong, as when you analyze the big picture everything fits together. Anyone in their right mind would look at this game and think "wow this atmosphere is perfect for the mafia". Ver once told me that lots of times it's easier to find the mafia when the town atmosphere sucks because they will not be the ones causing chaos and disruption. Instead they will be sitting on the sidelines enjoying the show while the townies flail around. Look at all the names I've listed above. Everyone (yes everyone on that list) is guilty of apathy and does not have the interests of the town in mind. They are not thinking long term, or analyzing the big picture. They aren't playing the game, they are watching. Macpo Many others have said so, and though I may be biased, I still think it's best we lynch him today. I believe his case is still by far the strongest we have at the moment, especially since he has responded to his threats (with even more reason to kill him). At the time of writing GGQ has yet to say anything. We kill him (Macpo) today and spend the night figuring out who has the next best case. In the meantime, I'm going to be looking for connections between the above players to see if anyone can be ruled out or automatically included. IF YOU HAVE FINISHED READING AND YOU ARE A COMPETENT TOWN PLAYER PLEASE READ AGAIN Also, after sifting through this information, I feel we have a strong enough lead to start killing like there's no tomorrow. ##Vote: double lynch | ||
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