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Morteth
Profile Joined April 2010
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 13:14:59
June 06 2011 13:03 GMT
#1


There are more parts to this interview available on Youtube...

Really interesting interview with a guy called Marko Rodin, thought it would be cool to share to my fellow team liquiders. What are your opinions on this? Is this a scam?

Please no flaming or condescending attitudes towards this. Might as well keep a neutral tone about this, as it helps the discussion more.

He states that even a 3rd grader can apply his Mathematics. It is that simple I guess, I have no clue how those Mathematics work though.




This is a video of a Rodin Coil, the apparatus Marko Rodin created, actually MAGNETIZING an allen wrench. Very weird and interesting video.

He creates a magnetic Monopole, where only the North side of the magnet is available. Super strange anomaly.

I'm asking Mods to not delete this thread. This is really cool and can produce positive discussion and reflection.
protheros
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal53 Posts
June 06 2011 13:07 GMT
#2
This is actually almost two years old. Almost every day some scientist affirms to have found some miracle energy generator, all of them only to get publicity and some sort of investment by a naive company.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
June 06 2011 13:10 GMT
#3
There is no possible way to get free energy. I'm not really sure what else I can add here but I think most people with a high school education could understand why.
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Morteth
Profile Joined April 2010
United States59 Posts
June 06 2011 13:11 GMT
#4
On June 06 2011 22:10 Iyerbeth wrote:
There is no possible way to get free energy. I'm not really sure what else I can add here but I think most people with a high school education could understand why.


Then why do these guys achieve it daily?

Magnets can produce free energy really easily, if you are creative enough with them.






This is a Rodin Coil Generator, creating free energy.
seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 13:14:22
June 06 2011 13:14 GMT
#5
Marko Rodin has studied a series of simple regularities in the decimal number system. From these he derives his "Vortex mathematics". Vortex mathematics is purported to explain all mathematical operations, the genes, and non-decaying energy. These regularities are inherent to the decimal system because of its base. You can find similar regularities in systems other than the decimal. They are for example applied in binary arithmetic - to make the computer work you're sitting in front of.


The Rodin Coil consists of a pair of wires wrapped around a doughnut-shaped core in a star pattern. Rodin claims this particular design, deduced from his number theory, yields different electromagnetic properties than any other coil - enabling it to create perpetual energy, and thus breaking fundamental laws of physics. Rodin admits no being able to build those coils himself - as he is "not an electrical engineer". In absence of any scientific proof, it remains therefore highly questionable, to say the least, whether the Rodin coil has any special physical properties.
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Edmon
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom259 Posts
June 06 2011 13:15 GMT
#6
You cannot create energy out of nothing, it has to come from somewhere. Everything available (including energy) already exists. We do no more than convert x to y by re-arranging it, splitting it, etc.

Conservation of Energy is a basic concept that has been around forever and has so far resisted all attempts to disprove it.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 06 2011 13:15 GMT
#7
On June 06 2011 22:11 Morteth wrote:
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On June 06 2011 22:10 Iyerbeth wrote:
There is no possible way to get free energy. I'm not really sure what else I can add here but I think most people with a high school education could understand why.


Then why do these guys achieve it daily?

They. Don't.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 13:16:01
June 06 2011 13:15 GMT
#8
These threads are worse to me than, for example, Bin Laden conspiracy. It's a straight scam, or not worthy of discussion because of the impossibility (Laws of Thermodynamics).
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Antialias
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom2 Posts
June 06 2011 13:15 GMT
#9
There are a great deal of people out there claiming to be able to provide free energy, usually with some kind of magnetic device (and it looks like this coil falls squarely into that category). They usually aren't out to scam people, but they are consistently self-deluding. It's quite difficult to measure the energy flow through a device like this, which leaves a lot of room for confirmation bias on the part of the inventor. Usually they convince themselves there is some small energy gain, enough to warrant building a larger prototype. However, in centuries of physics research energy conservation has always held in all situations, so there's really no reason to believe some (well-meaning I'm sure) guys have managed to break a rule that holds steady in the entire rest of the universe.
Morteth
Profile Joined April 2010
United States59 Posts
June 06 2011 13:17 GMT
#10
On June 06 2011 22:14 seaofsaturn wrote:
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Marko Rodin has studied a series of simple regularities in the decimal number system. From these he derives his "Vortex mathematics". Vortex mathematics is purported to explain all mathematical operations, the genes, and non-decaying energy. These regularities are inherent to the decimal system because of its base. You can find similar regularities in systems other than the decimal. They are for example applied in binary arithmetic - to make the computer work you're sitting in front of.


The Rodin Coil consists of a pair of wires wrapped around a doughnut-shaped core in a star pattern. Rodin claims this particular design, deduced from his number theory, yields different electromagnetic properties than any other coil - enabling it to create perpetual energy, and thus breaking fundamental laws of physics. Rodin admits no being able to build those coils himself - as he is "not an electrical engineer". In absence of any scientific proof, it remains therefore highly questionable, to say the least, whether the Rodin coil has any special physical properties.






Well there are many youtube videos that go into great length to show how the free energy devices work, but thanks for the quote. I'm sure you can think for yourself.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1000 Posts
June 06 2011 13:17 GMT
#11
Yeah, from what I saw, it's a scam. They are asking for founding for something that they claim that anyone can build, and that's the 1st red flag.

Second red flag is that they are proud of not being scientist, and are invoking some kind of conspiracy of big companies, when a company that owns a free energy device would make way more on it than they do on oil based economy.

Also, a huge red flag is the "spirit" and "space" talk, and also the guy is claiming he can freeze space time, witch is based on nothing and sounds totally wild. He is either delusional or scam artist, and is trying to disguise his pseudo magic beliefs whit magnetism (huge red flag), space time (since most people don't understand relativity) and of course favorite new tool of pseudo scientist, the quantum mehanics and makes absolutely no sense to anyone remotely familiar to the theory.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43350 Posts
June 06 2011 13:17 GMT
#12
Closing this in the name of physics. Bring me peer reviewed articles in scientific journals, not youtube videos.
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