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MaYuu
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Sweden516 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 17:19:10
March 02 2011 17:18 GMT
#1

Blizzard’s IP rights war against Korean broadcast companies has claimed yet another victim. E-Stars Seoul, in a show of solidarity with KeSPA, is removing Blizzard games from its tournament in August.

E-Stars has become one of the biggest international esports tournaments in Korea, producing some superb WC3 and SCBW matches in the past. But, due to the fall-out between Blizzard and KeSPA, OGN and MBC, E-Stars 2011 will be a pure Counter-Strike event. The prize money from Blizzard titles will apparently be funnelled back into CS. There are also suggestions that the unusual, gimmicky format will be dropped this year, with the organisers possibly seeing an opportunity to make E-Stars a major CS tournament in lieu of the RTS action.

The news is disappointing for Korean esports, however, with CS being very much a lesser game. The Blizzard vs KeSPA fight continues to cause problems for the so-called Mecca of esports, with WCG recently appearing to put themselves on the side of the other broadcasters. Although nothing is official yet, there is a distinct possibility that Blizzard games will not be appearing at that event either.


Sad to see another tournament fall to the KeSPA vs Blizzard war, it's really having a toll on korean e-sports.

Source: Rakakaworld
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50843 Posts
March 02 2011 17:23 GMT
#2
All the more reason this has to end in 15 days.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
March 02 2011 17:24 GMT
#3
this is not good...
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9041 Posts
March 02 2011 17:30 GMT
#4
Only CS? why do they think this will work?
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 17:47:01
March 02 2011 17:37 GMT
#5
This is a neat article. Some of the information was taken from this thread.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=196208

It is known for a fact that it is due to the lawsuit or just speculation? I haven't seen any hard evidence that it is directly due to the lawsuit. (I am sure it is, but who knows, the translation in the above link has it mentioned but I am not sure how bluntly it was mentioned.)
Brood War forever!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 02 2011 17:42 GMT
#6
Great scott. This is certainly not a good year for the Korean e-sports scene despite SC2 exploding everywhere else in the world.

I think Blizzard made a huge mistake with their lawsuit. They were planning on using the specter of the lawsuit to pressure KeSPA into agreeing with their terms, and when KeSPA called the bluff, Blizzard unfortunately showed that they weren't bluffing. I wish the lawsuit card was never played in the first place. Many more months of stalled negotiations is much better than what we have now.
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Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
March 02 2011 17:45 GMT
#7
why is this in starcraft 2?
CyberPitz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States428 Posts
March 02 2011 17:47 GMT
#8
Another thread that will devulge into the informationless bashing of either Blizzard or KeSPA.

On the topic at hand, that sucks. Would be nice if everything could work out like in Candy Land...but alas...
SkCom
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada229 Posts
March 02 2011 17:50 GMT
#9
Although it is sad for eSports you have to realise Blizzard is a full-fledged company and they have to protect their rights. We're talking THOUSANDS of jobs here and hundreds of familis tepending on Blizzard's income every month.
I feel a lot of people support kespa because of loyalty and fail to see the biggure picture. In a perfect world they would respect the authority of the figure providing the IPs.
Either way, as I said, sad for eSports but Blizz is losing a ton of money from KESPA and that's a lot of money that doesn't go towards the development of our favorite games.
KingRajesh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States927 Posts
March 02 2011 17:53 GMT
#10
Blizzard's terms and conditions are IRONCLAD. There's no way KESPA has a chance in court, especially if Blizzard can get the trial moved to America.
"Zerg are the absolute worst thing that can happen to your day" - Dustin Browder
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 17:54:28
March 02 2011 17:53 GMT
#11
Kespa continuing its arrogance. They feel like Blizzard needs them since Korea used to be the e-sports capital of the world. Guess they haven't kept track of tournaments everywhere else... they are not as important as they used to be.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 17:54:48
March 02 2011 17:54 GMT
#12
Although this does really seem bad, you have to realize that this is how the world works. One day you have a beautiful flower, and then the next it is dead and wilted. You feel sad--until you notice a new flower in its spot the next day...

Things like this will happen. I see it as a good thing for the CS community because honestly, as PC gamers, we need to keep PC gaming alive. Xbox controls alllll nowwwww... which means that the less money they make for PC gaming, the less they have to produce parts, and evnetually down the line there wont be games for PC anymore

edit: CS community is kinda dying. That's a huge amount of people =p
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Zrana
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom698 Posts
March 02 2011 17:57 GMT
#13
Don't worry, xbox games don't take skill

User was temp banned for this post.
lolbolt
Profile Joined November 2010
206 Posts
March 02 2011 18:01 GMT
#14
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT MEANS WE WON'T GET TO SEE TOSSGIRL PLAY
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
March 02 2011 18:03 GMT
#15
On March 03 2011 02:57 Zrana wrote:
Don't worry, xbox games don't take skill

I thought CS is on PC?

One a side notes, are there many people playing CS in Korea?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 02 2011 18:04 GMT
#16
On March 03 2011 03:01 lolbolt wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT MEANS WE WON'T GET TO SEE TOSSGIRL PLAY

Indeed. The lack of Tossgirl is the biggest loss considering that she is secretly the real Protoss bonjwa.

Anyways, I think the fact that this thread was posted in the SC2 section only means that the anti-KeSPA opinions will outnumber the anti-Blizzard opinions. The opposite would probably happen if it was posted in the BW forum, which I think would be a more logical choice considering that this mainly has the greatest effect on BW, not SC2.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 02 2011 18:06 GMT
#17
On March 03 2011 03:01 lolbolt wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT MEANS WE WON'T GET TO SEE TOSSGIRL PLAY


she playing tonight @ MSL prelims
starleague forever
raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
March 02 2011 18:07 GMT
#18
On March 03 2011 03:03 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 02:57 Zrana wrote:
Don't worry, xbox games don't take skill

I thought CS is on PC?

One a side notes, are there many people playing CS in Korea?


not really _alot_ but they have had a fair ammount of decent teams, but nothing compared to a Nation like Sweden
BGrael
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany229 Posts
March 02 2011 18:09 GMT
#19
It blows my mind how stupid these people are. And now imagine they would do exactly the same with more important issues than e-sports, medicine for example. Makes me sick.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
March 02 2011 18:10 GMT
#20
Lol. GL HF E-stars without blizzard games...
lololol.
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