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PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
March 02 2011 18:10 GMT
#21
wow this is ridiculous.

bizz either will take care of this or has bigger plans already regardless
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 18:18:23
March 02 2011 18:17 GMT
#22
From an objective point of view, not having BW in a korean esports event is just depressing. Gloomy days indeed

edit; happy birthday to PhiliBiRD .
o choro é livre
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
March 02 2011 19:05 GMT
#23
Again, Le sigh.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
March 02 2011 19:13 GMT
#24
Here I have a product, why don't you just buy it... then make money off of it and never give me a dime. You really think i'm going to continue to allow you to do that...

only if i'm a scrub without a backbone. KESPA is going to get screwed so badly at trial it won't matter. Hell most gamers don't even like KESPA from what the pro's have said.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
March 02 2011 19:28 GMT
#25
On March 03 2011 04:13 purecarnagge wrote:
Here I have a product, why don't you just buy it... then make money off of it and never give me a dime. You really think i'm going to continue to allow you to do that...

only if i'm a scrub without a backbone. KESPA is going to get screwed so badly at trial it won't matter. Hell most gamers don't even like KESPA from what the pro's have said.

it was more like, here i have a product, why don't you just buy it... then you make a little money out of it so we don't really care since it's chump change
10 years later: oh shit you're making a lot of money and refusing to give us a dime
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 19:32:38
March 02 2011 19:32 GMT
#26
Blizzard didn't give a shit about the BW proscene for 9 years, then all this crap starts and tourneys are being ruined.

As long as MSL/OSL/PL stay alive I won't be bothered.
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goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
March 02 2011 19:32 GMT
#27
On March 03 2011 02:30 Garnet wrote:
Only CS? why do they think this will work?


What do you want them to do? Pick a new RTS and train a bunch of players to play entertaining games?

CS is the only thing they've got outside the realm of blizzard.
KingRajesh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States927 Posts
March 02 2011 19:33 GMT
#28
On March 03 2011 04:28 awu25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 04:13 purecarnagge wrote:
Here I have a product, why don't you just buy it... then make money off of it and never give me a dime. You really think i'm going to continue to allow you to do that...

only if i'm a scrub without a backbone. KESPA is going to get screwed so badly at trial it won't matter. Hell most gamers don't even like KESPA from what the pro's have said.

it was more like, here i have a product, why don't you just buy it... then you make a little money out of it so we don't really care since it's chump change
10 years later: oh shit you're making a lot of money and refusing to give us a dime


But it's their prerogative as the original owners.

Just like all the videos on Youtube using copywritten material getting taken down years later... Just because they don't do anything about it now doesn't mean they can't do something about it down the line.

KESPA is screwed not just on point, but ON ALL FOURS. They should have taken the deal, Blizzard's lawyers are going to gut them in court.
"Zerg are the absolute worst thing that can happen to your day" - Dustin Browder
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
March 02 2011 19:34 GMT
#29
On March 03 2011 03:04 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 03:01 lolbolt wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT MEANS WE WON'T GET TO SEE TOSSGIRL PLAY

Indeed. The lack of Tossgirl is the biggest loss considering that she is secretly the real Protoss bonjwa.

Anyways, I think the fact that this thread was posted in the SC2 section only means that the anti-KeSPA opinions will outnumber the anti-Blizzard opinions. The opposite would probably happen if it was posted in the BW forum, which I think would be a more logical choice considering that this mainly has the greatest effect on BW, not SC2.


Tossgirl is terran
PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
March 02 2011 19:39 GMT
#30
On March 03 2011 02:30 Garnet wrote:
Only CS? why do they think this will work?

CS is an incredibly popular game, and if the tournament attracts teams like Fnatic, sk, and navi they'll no doubt get high stream numbers.
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Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
March 02 2011 19:41 GMT
#31
Is it because Blizz/MBC is in a lawsuit that some tournaments are excluding Blizz games or is it they know Blizz will win the lawsuit? Or is it like the previous article about WCG and that kespa leaders just want to thumb down Blizz games as spite? OR this is just to blame blizzard for the war.



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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12085 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 19:43:57
March 02 2011 19:43 GMT
#32
On March 03 2011 04:41 Lokian wrote:
Is it because Blizz/MBC is in a lawsuit that some tournaments are excluding Blizz games or is it they know Blizz will win the lawsuit? Or is it like the previous article about WCG and that kespa leaders just want to thumb down Blizz games as spite? OR this is just to blame blizzard for the war.


Probably more along the lines, we don't have any rights to have this game in our line up. We will get sued if we have a tournament with this game in it, as proven by the Blizzard/KESPA case.

Just getting sued and the costs that are associated with it is enough to deter in many cases.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
March 02 2011 19:44 GMT
#33
Pretty sure this feels like suicide for E-stars.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
March 02 2011 19:44 GMT
#34
Blizzard have always had the upper hand, and they will continue to do so. This is not Blizzard's fault as much as it is the organizations that failed to compromise with them.

You don't get to make the rules when someone has a gun over your head.


(in before they shouldn't have a gun to their heads anyway)
We talkin about PRACTICE
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
March 02 2011 19:46 GMT
#35
What S-Korean SC2 scene thinks about the situation:
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
March 02 2011 19:49 GMT
#36
On March 03 2011 02:42 eviltomahawk wrote:
Great scott. This is certainly not a good year for the Korean e-sports scene despite SC2 exploding everywhere else in the world.

I think Blizzard made a huge mistake with their lawsuit. They were planning on using the specter of the lawsuit to pressure KeSPA into agreeing with their terms, and when KeSPA called the bluff, Blizzard unfortunately showed that they weren't bluffing. I wish the lawsuit card was never played in the first place. Many more months of stalled negotiations is much better than what we have now.


I believe Blizzard will be fine, especially with SC2 exploding everywhere else like you said. After a while I have a feeling that tournaments will have to include SC2 and Blizzard games whether or not they like it, as there will be far too much money to lose. Its very rare you see any organization give up a large profit for moral/support issues like this.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 19:51:31
March 02 2011 19:51 GMT
#37
Currently the court cases are going beyond payment of broadcasting, from what I have understood from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188322

It is also about forcing(probably too much of a loose term) OGN/MBC to broadcast SC2 instead of BW. For those of you who have not read the article, Blizzard is not in an owmyfuckinggodalmighty position.
WriterXiao8~~
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
March 02 2011 20:04 GMT
#38
Gotta love it, politics, huge companies, everything.

In the end they'll always react like little immature children, pathetic.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
March 02 2011 20:06 GMT
#39
Sad to hear that...
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
March 02 2011 20:14 GMT
#40
I still think this will hurt them more than it will hurt Blizzard.
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