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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 05 2011 07:38 GMT
#19
/in

none standard game ftw.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 05 2011 09:35 GMT
#20
On January 05 2011 12:56 Pigsquirrel wrote:
Sounds fun, I'll give it a shot.
/in
On second thought, I'd rather avoid a fancy variant for my first game,
/out.

This guy is missing some crazy actions. As long as people remains active, the game will be fun.
My first game was caller's ROTK game where there was no role list, mafia betrayal for justice, and epic bus claim which confused the heck out of me. Game was still fun though.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 06 2011 03:58 GMT
#25
GOGOGO. I need another game.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 04:26 GMT
#33
Double lynch everyday.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 04:41 GMT
#36
Like I said, Double Lynch everyday because I can shoot during every DAY, not night.

Firstly, I request some sort of protection right away. Don't look at it as scummy. If I can give town +1 KP everyday, that should be enough to be protected.

If anyone has ability (preferably item) to protect against night kill, please contact me.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 04:51 GMT
#38
I will clarify more on this double lynch.

I can shoot every DAY, not night. AND I can shoot as soon as the game start.

Currently I have no mean of protecting myself. I believe my role is important and deserve protection against mafia KP. The item I am really looking for is something like a "veteran vest" that protects against one KP.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 05:16 GMT
#42
Also discuss when should I shoot, especially for my first shot.

I don't want to shoot that late in the day since I want to leave time to discuss about town's official lynch. We may be able to use the information resulted from my shot to decide a better lynch.

I am think of shooting at the middle of the day 24 hours after day post to leave another 24 hours for more discussion.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 05:49 GMT
#46
Only one shot per day. I emphasized I can shoot as soon as the game start to answer the question that I don't have to wait until day2 to shoot.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 08 2011 00:07 GMT
#54
On January 07 2011 22:47 Node wrote:
I really don't think using a day hit on day 1 is a very good idea. Imagine if you missed with the hit and we missed the lynch, which is more likely than not on day 1. Assuming the mafia hit goes through, it's tied 2-2 and mafia has the game. If the mafia hits someone that's protected in some way, it's still LYLO. I'd rather wait until we've got some more information, maybe there's a alignment check item out there or somesuch.

So are you suggesting that I hold off my shot? Should town also not vote to lynch on day1?
If you answer yes to both, then I have nothing else to say.

If you suggest that I not shoot during day and town still decide a lynch, then why don't I shoot first then we can decide if we want the lynch or not. I can only shoot before the day is over, after we get the result from the lynch, I can't shoot.

If I don't shoot, people won't believe me enough to give me protection and mafia will likely target me with their nightkill.

For information purpose: Yes, I am not forced to shoot everyday. But for day1, I will shoot to verify my claim.

I am now deciding how my shots should be decided. Whether to have open vote, private vote, analysis driven, I decide it myself, or something else.

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 08 2011 05:01 GMT
#57
Game hasn't began. So please explain your reason, preferably before game begins.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 02:46 GMT
#70
On January 09 2011 11:33 annul wrote:
ok hi

right now we have a claim from lunar that he can day kill every day in addition to any lynching. be careful with this claim, as i assume (based on the language of my item(s)) that an ability like that costs significant money to use. it may, for example, cost 600k to use in which case he needs 200k from someone to shoot again, etc. it is unlikely to be just +1 day KP without drawback or restriction.

in a game where money is such a factor, i assume probably every item has some monetary relevance to it. keep this in mind when contracting.

LSB: do we have the ability to vote no lynch?

First of all, my day kill requires no money.

If I have to give up all money I have to persuade town, I am willing to do it.
Think of it this way: If I am mafia, do you think mafia will be willing to give up half of their cash? Also, it would be stupid for LSB to give mafia an extra day kill because that would make the game so imbalanced.

As of now, my priority is to choose a target and prove my claim. Then I will try desperately to get protection against mafia's KP.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 04:36 GMT
#79
On January 09 2011 13:22 chipmonkey wrote:
Fun sounding game. Definitely unique.

Show nested quote +
First of all, my day kill requires no money.

If I have to give up all money I have to persuade town, I am willing to do it.
Think of it this way: If I am mafia, do you think mafia will be willing to give up half of their cash? Also, it would be stupid for LSB to give mafia an extra day kill because that would make the game so imbalanced.

As of now, my priority is to choose a target and prove my claim. Then I will try desperately to get protection against mafia's KP.


A kill that requires no money? Something about that seems strange to me, but that's just a gut feeling. I would guess that only mafia would get an absolutely free kill, but, again, that's just a guess.

Also, when you say

"If I have to give up all money I have to persuade town, I am willing to do it.
Think of it this way: If I am mafia, do you think mafia will be willing to give up half of their cash?"

...Do you know something about the mafia that we don't? How do you know if money is any more or less valuable to a mafia member than it is to a townie? I just think its odd that you are so quick to assume that mafia really need money. (Maybe I missed something in an earlier post?)

Also, if you aren't a mafia member, how would killing someone during the day phase prove it? All it would prove is that you (or someone you are in contact with) has that ability. Mafia or not.


I must say in a game where everyone is given money, mafia must have some use for it. That is my assumption.

I said nothing about using my day kill to prove I am town. It will only prove that I can make a day shot. But if I somehow hit a mafia (2mafia/6targets=33%), that should be good evidence that I am town. With additional scumhunting and analysising, I can improve the 33% chance of hitting a mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 05:01 GMT
#81
On January 09 2011 13:51 chipmonkey wrote:
I agree about the killing a mafia part being convincing evidence (I seriously doubt a mafia would kill his only scum buddy to throw people off the scent). Lets hope you hit one.

I don't really agree with your tactic of coming out right on the spot, because if you are telling the truth, the mafia can quickly pick off a townie kill role... but what's done is done. At least if you are a mafia, while you are alive at least, the town can control who you use your action on, and any failure to comply might be a nice indication that we hit your mafia buddy. Then we could take down two mafia in one!

But I think I'm being a little too optimistic.

The reason why I reveal my day kill is that when I use my day kill, I am to post the action in the thread. The mafia will then know that I have a day kill after. I could have hold my shot for day1 but that is just giving up a free hit. If I hit a mafia, that will pretty much confirm me.

Also, if I see bad reasoning on the proposed target, I will not shoot. This applies especially later in the game.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#83
Futhermore, I won't explicitly say who I am going to shoot before shooting. This is to prevent mafia to exchange protection item if they have any.

There are downside to this because it will make me look scummy. But I don't want to waste a KP. I understand that I must get a mafia soon (first two day?) if I am doing it this way.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 06:32 GMT
#90
According to information I have, yes. Town got this.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 11 2011 03:14 GMT
#250
Kavdragon, why must you repeat the same mistake I made?

Brought back bad memory.

And LSB, WTF. Why every shits blow up in this game? God damn bullet proof vest, probably made in China (I'm Chinese).
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 11 2011 03:21 GMT
#252
On January 11 2011 11:12 annul wrote:
like seriously what the fuck is wrong with the town in this game? this had to have been the WORST town performance EVER.

every single thing i called ROL out on was correct. EVERY SINGLE THING.

I am so stupid in this game. I must realized that bullet proof is too OP for anyone to have in this game. RoL didn't do much to persuade me and I took the vest. He even urged me to that it for free.

Prior to the contract of me and RoL, I got hints from Kav that shits (his nades) blow up and you also warned me that "no one would be stupid enough to say 'free nade, cool'". If I didn't take that vest, it could have been a different game. Well, I was going to shoot chipmonkey or node, most likely chipmonkey though.
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