• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:12
CEST 10:12
KST 17:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy4Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27
Community News
Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.7Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)13BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1
StarCraft 2
General
Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2) Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey. I have an extra ticket to the GSL Ro4/finals Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson." Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 4
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 34751 users

Merc Micro Mafia

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 05 2011 07:38 GMT
#19
/in

none standard game ftw.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 05 2011 09:35 GMT
#20
On January 05 2011 12:56 Pigsquirrel wrote:
Sounds fun, I'll give it a shot.
/in
On second thought, I'd rather avoid a fancy variant for my first game,
/out.

This guy is missing some crazy actions. As long as people remains active, the game will be fun.
My first game was caller's ROTK game where there was no role list, mafia betrayal for justice, and epic bus claim which confused the heck out of me. Game was still fun though.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 06 2011 03:58 GMT
#25
GOGOGO. I need another game.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 04:26 GMT
#33
Double lynch everyday.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 04:41 GMT
#36
Like I said, Double Lynch everyday because I can shoot during every DAY, not night.

Firstly, I request some sort of protection right away. Don't look at it as scummy. If I can give town +1 KP everyday, that should be enough to be protected.

If anyone has ability (preferably item) to protect against night kill, please contact me.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 04:51 GMT
#38
I will clarify more on this double lynch.

I can shoot every DAY, not night. AND I can shoot as soon as the game start.

Currently I have no mean of protecting myself. I believe my role is important and deserve protection against mafia KP. The item I am really looking for is something like a "veteran vest" that protects against one KP.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 05:16 GMT
#42
Also discuss when should I shoot, especially for my first shot.

I don't want to shoot that late in the day since I want to leave time to discuss about town's official lynch. We may be able to use the information resulted from my shot to decide a better lynch.

I am think of shooting at the middle of the day 24 hours after day post to leave another 24 hours for more discussion.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2011 05:49 GMT
#46
Only one shot per day. I emphasized I can shoot as soon as the game start to answer the question that I don't have to wait until day2 to shoot.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 08 2011 00:07 GMT
#54
On January 07 2011 22:47 Node wrote:
I really don't think using a day hit on day 1 is a very good idea. Imagine if you missed with the hit and we missed the lynch, which is more likely than not on day 1. Assuming the mafia hit goes through, it's tied 2-2 and mafia has the game. If the mafia hits someone that's protected in some way, it's still LYLO. I'd rather wait until we've got some more information, maybe there's a alignment check item out there or somesuch.

So are you suggesting that I hold off my shot? Should town also not vote to lynch on day1?
If you answer yes to both, then I have nothing else to say.

If you suggest that I not shoot during day and town still decide a lynch, then why don't I shoot first then we can decide if we want the lynch or not. I can only shoot before the day is over, after we get the result from the lynch, I can't shoot.

If I don't shoot, people won't believe me enough to give me protection and mafia will likely target me with their nightkill.

For information purpose: Yes, I am not forced to shoot everyday. But for day1, I will shoot to verify my claim.

I am now deciding how my shots should be decided. Whether to have open vote, private vote, analysis driven, I decide it myself, or something else.

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 08 2011 05:01 GMT
#57
Game hasn't began. So please explain your reason, preferably before game begins.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 02:46 GMT
#70
On January 09 2011 11:33 annul wrote:
ok hi

right now we have a claim from lunar that he can day kill every day in addition to any lynching. be careful with this claim, as i assume (based on the language of my item(s)) that an ability like that costs significant money to use. it may, for example, cost 600k to use in which case he needs 200k from someone to shoot again, etc. it is unlikely to be just +1 day KP without drawback or restriction.

in a game where money is such a factor, i assume probably every item has some monetary relevance to it. keep this in mind when contracting.

LSB: do we have the ability to vote no lynch?

First of all, my day kill requires no money.

If I have to give up all money I have to persuade town, I am willing to do it.
Think of it this way: If I am mafia, do you think mafia will be willing to give up half of their cash? Also, it would be stupid for LSB to give mafia an extra day kill because that would make the game so imbalanced.

As of now, my priority is to choose a target and prove my claim. Then I will try desperately to get protection against mafia's KP.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 04:36 GMT
#79
On January 09 2011 13:22 chipmonkey wrote:
Fun sounding game. Definitely unique.

Show nested quote +
First of all, my day kill requires no money.

If I have to give up all money I have to persuade town, I am willing to do it.
Think of it this way: If I am mafia, do you think mafia will be willing to give up half of their cash? Also, it would be stupid for LSB to give mafia an extra day kill because that would make the game so imbalanced.

As of now, my priority is to choose a target and prove my claim. Then I will try desperately to get protection against mafia's KP.


A kill that requires no money? Something about that seems strange to me, but that's just a gut feeling. I would guess that only mafia would get an absolutely free kill, but, again, that's just a guess.

Also, when you say

"If I have to give up all money I have to persuade town, I am willing to do it.
Think of it this way: If I am mafia, do you think mafia will be willing to give up half of their cash?"

...Do you know something about the mafia that we don't? How do you know if money is any more or less valuable to a mafia member than it is to a townie? I just think its odd that you are so quick to assume that mafia really need money. (Maybe I missed something in an earlier post?)

Also, if you aren't a mafia member, how would killing someone during the day phase prove it? All it would prove is that you (or someone you are in contact with) has that ability. Mafia or not.


I must say in a game where everyone is given money, mafia must have some use for it. That is my assumption.

I said nothing about using my day kill to prove I am town. It will only prove that I can make a day shot. But if I somehow hit a mafia (2mafia/6targets=33%), that should be good evidence that I am town. With additional scumhunting and analysising, I can improve the 33% chance of hitting a mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 05:01 GMT
#81
On January 09 2011 13:51 chipmonkey wrote:
I agree about the killing a mafia part being convincing evidence (I seriously doubt a mafia would kill his only scum buddy to throw people off the scent). Lets hope you hit one.

I don't really agree with your tactic of coming out right on the spot, because if you are telling the truth, the mafia can quickly pick off a townie kill role... but what's done is done. At least if you are a mafia, while you are alive at least, the town can control who you use your action on, and any failure to comply might be a nice indication that we hit your mafia buddy. Then we could take down two mafia in one!

But I think I'm being a little too optimistic.

The reason why I reveal my day kill is that when I use my day kill, I am to post the action in the thread. The mafia will then know that I have a day kill after. I could have hold my shot for day1 but that is just giving up a free hit. If I hit a mafia, that will pretty much confirm me.

Also, if I see bad reasoning on the proposed target, I will not shoot. This applies especially later in the game.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#83
Futhermore, I won't explicitly say who I am going to shoot before shooting. This is to prevent mafia to exchange protection item if they have any.

There are downside to this because it will make me look scummy. But I don't want to waste a KP. I understand that I must get a mafia soon (first two day?) if I am doing it this way.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 09 2011 06:32 GMT
#90
According to information I have, yes. Town got this.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 11 2011 03:14 GMT
#250
Kavdragon, why must you repeat the same mistake I made?

Brought back bad memory.

And LSB, WTF. Why every shits blow up in this game? God damn bullet proof vest, probably made in China (I'm Chinese).
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 11 2011 03:21 GMT
#252
On January 11 2011 11:12 annul wrote:
like seriously what the fuck is wrong with the town in this game? this had to have been the WORST town performance EVER.

every single thing i called ROL out on was correct. EVERY SINGLE THING.

I am so stupid in this game. I must realized that bullet proof is too OP for anyone to have in this game. RoL didn't do much to persuade me and I took the vest. He even urged me to that it for free.

Prior to the contract of me and RoL, I got hints from Kav that shits (his nades) blow up and you also warned me that "no one would be stupid enough to say 'free nade, cool'". If I didn't take that vest, it could have been a different game. Well, I was going to shoot chipmonkey or node, most likely chipmonkey though.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL Code S
08:00
Semi-Finals & Finals
Rogue vs herOLIVE!
Classic vs GuMiho
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 565
Nal_rA 482
Leta 212
Mind 57
Shinee 54
Barracks 35
NotJumperer 29
Bale 17
Killer 12
JulyZerg 8
[ Show more ]
eros_byul 5
ivOry 5
Dota 2
XcaliburYe357
XaKoH 339
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1710
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King110
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor90
Other Games
C9.Mang01190
WinterStarcraft551
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream6484
Other Games
gamesdonequick584
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 33
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2170
League of Legends
• Stunt417
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 48m
WardiTV Qualifier
7h 48m
BSL: ProLeague
9h 48m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
Cross vs Doodle
MadiNho vs Dragon
Replay Cast
15h 48m
Wardi Open
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
SC Evo League
6 days
Circuito Brasileiro de…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-11
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.