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Shogun: Total War 2
So, I didn't see anything yet about this so I decided we needed a thread!
I actually just recently heard about this from my friend. I've been a fan of Creative Assembly's TW series since the original Shogun and I have to say it played a large part in the formation of my RTS years growing up along with Brood War. I used to go to my friends house who had a computer that could play it and I would just play away when he was done! I've always thought that Shogun was my favorite if it had Rome's engine and now it's going to be even better. Unfortunately, I did not like Empire as much as I anticipated. Though, not because it's not a good game, but because I dislike gunpowder warfare. In Shogun you had gunpowder units but they could be utterly destroyed by warrior monks and they were fairly late and carried their own religious penalty typically. Anyway, enough of my rant about TW.
Honestly, the graphical update is nice but what I'm actually the most excited about is the integration of Rome+ MTW + Empire mechanics.
Without further ado, a litany of videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlMkME4bSeM&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1jeeA3ahcg&feature=fvst
Cool assassination video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ld8xfDWv74
And the most important:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtsX3bXLEGE
At this point it's officially set to release on 15 March 2011.
Demo download page
Demo mod with several different clans unlocked + other goodies
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Yea, I'm really looking forward to this as Shogun is easily my favourite of the Total War series. I'm hoping this will be somewhat of a return to forum for CA as their recent releases didn't quite engage me as much as I hoped.
I always enjoyed the simplicity of the Shogun map and environment, I feel that was the games strength that the subsequent games lost in some ways.
Always loved the little cut-scenes they had for the assassinations (both failed and successful) and I'm really glad to see them return. 
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I just hope this game doesn't melt my comp like Empire did.
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Wow, after watching these trailers I'm pumped. This game is going to be awesome. Never played shogun, but Rome was awesome, and i hated empire, so glad to see a return to melee. Can't wait.
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Yeah, I'm gonna keep my eye on this. I'm still playing Medieval II to this very day (although modded ;d Stainless Steel 6.3 FTW~!).
The videos don't reveal much, so I'll keep my judgement reserved for now. I didn't get Empire and Napoleon (because I didn't like the time line), but I heard their games are becoming less and less mod-able.
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One on the few games I'm really looking forward to! Played RTW a lot and I hope this game can at least be just as good. Haven't really tried the mods tbh, spent to much time in one campaign play through.
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On November 19 2010 22:47 DannyJ wrote:
Does RTW even have mods?
Yeah Rome has mods. I didn't personally try out any of them, but I heard some of them are great.
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On November 19 2010 20:57 jtype wrote:Yea, I'm really looking forward to this as Shogun is easily my favourite of the Total War series. I'm hoping this will be somewhat of a return to forum for CA as their recent releases didn't quite engage me as much as I hoped. I always enjoyed the simplicity of the Shogun map and environment, I feel that was the games strength that the subsequent games lost in some ways. Always loved the little cut-scenes they had for the assassinations (both failed and successful) and I'm really glad to see them return.
Pretty much this, but I wonder why the map looks this weird. And why are units unnecessary animated on the map?
+ Show Spoiler +
^ Was good enough in my opinion.
The cutscenes were awesome, that's why I wondered why this one looked so bad. I mean, why would a ninja take that way...through the whole camp?
+ Show Spoiler +
That's the way it's supposed to be, no useless comedy -.-
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I loved Rome total war, bot none of the ones after that were engaging to me in any way whatsoever....mostly because of the AI. Rome could be annoying too in that respect, but it still felt mildly realistic. The medieval tws and empire, etc, just had horrific campaign AI, plus it was needlessly complicated. And by complicated, i don't mean hard, or deep. I just mean stupid crap. All the dumb diplomacy "options" you had that were useless 95% of the time anyways, because the fighting AI was so terrid you could rape any army you faced with the same setups, making peaceful diplomacy worthless. Not that you could go the peaceful route even if you tried, thanks once again to the terrible campaign AI.
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been excited for this game ever since they announced it
Rome was my favorite, Medieval 2 and Empire were ok, but I didn't even bother getting Napoleon
this however, has potential to be the best game in the series
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On November 19 2010 22:51 Latham wrote:Yeah Rome has mods. I didn't personally try out any of them, but I heard some of them are great.
Er, crap, I meant to say ETW 
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hmm this looks fairly interesting, might even top the total war series.
Time will show
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The first Shogun was the best. Then they started adding more and more features they couldn't balance nor implement properly nor get the AI to properly use. The series also became more and more buggy and had too many technical issues. Not to mention they started making really gross historical errors starting with Rome (completely anachronistic Egyptians, overpowered cavalry and underpowered phalanx units).
I'm cautiously optimistic about this game because it seems like they're going back to their roots and cutting out a lot of extraneous features. I heard they're also going back to handcrafted maps for tactical battles. The randomly generated ones starting from Rome sucked because they were mostly flatland. Shogun was the best game in terms of having to use terrain advantages.
I'm also hoping for better diplomacy this time around. CA artificially made previous games harder by making the AIs gang up on the player to hide their weaknesses. I believe the AI were hard-coded to have someone declare war on the player if the player was at peace with everybody. So no matter how peaceful and friendly you were, somebody is bound to declare war on you if you're not at way with anybody at the time.
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i'm hoping for a Shogun: Total War with better graphics
actually, i'd still be playing the original if the camera we're so iritating to me right now
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Thanks for posting up those vids GGTeMpLaR! Very nice.
Although, I'm pretty sure they got the labels for "Real-Time Battles" and "Turn-Based Campaign Map" the wrong way round.
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Looking a lot forward to this game.
I was so young I didn't jack shit about what I was doing when playing the original Shogun:TW, but regardless I still found it fun as my first timebased RTS(apart from HMM, which really is less of an RTS).
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i'm crazy psyched for this game, though I would have preferred Rome II simply because I'm more fond of the era/culture.
That being said, all the new features in this game look awesome!
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This will make me play less Starcraft 2! It's going to be so mindfucking nice. I thin probably playable even without mods this time! NICE
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