*This thread is best for 1v2, 1v4 or 1v5 AI, so check out my other thread if you are looking to do 1v3 AI.
UPDATE: Still works as of April 22, 2011 I discovered the easiest, (and cheesiest) way to win vs. ALL outmatched comp combinations. I call it the 'Burning Tide method'. It takes less than 14 minutes and no skill. I made this video to demonstrate what you need to do. I started out beating 1v3 insane comps using this strategy (thread), but then Cantankerous figured out that the 4th and 5th insane comps can be beaten this way. Even though the 4th and 5th insane AI are on the opposite team, they gather minerals for your team, LOL. In fact, having 1v5 insane AI makes it easier to win than having 1v4 insane AI.
This video shows me vs. 4 insane comps. I'm aware that there are no 1v4 or 1v5 insane AI achivements. I beat 1v4 insane AI in the below video simply to demonstrate how dang easy this strat is. You may be confused at this point, but it will all become clear if you follow the below detailed instructions:
Detailed instructions:
JUST GET TO 15,000 MINERALS BEFORE COMPS AND YOU WIN. -Pick map: Burning Tide, change gametype from 'melee' to 'custom' -Pick Protoss vs. 4 Zergs (adjust difficulty) -Start building probes -Build a pylon -Never forget to chronoboost. The whole reason I picked Protoss is for chronoboost so don't forget to constantly chorono. -Expand once (careful not to expand into the neighbor Zerg!) -Dont get supply blocked, you will only need 4 pylons TOTAL -Build 21 probes at each base -The computer will never attack you.
-Last but not least, run a probe around the map to pick up +100 mineral boosts. UPDATE: Apparently, each time the lava rises and recedes new +100 mineral boosts appear on the low ground! Send a probe out each time for even more minerals faster! (thx again Cantankerous).
*Once again, this is good for 1v2 and 1v4 AI. If you are trying for 1v3 AI, check out my other thread for the best B.O.
Enjoy your new 'OUTMATCHED CRUSHER' achievement and your welcome.
PRO TIP:
Do this with 1v4 very hard computers to get achievements for 1v4 very hard and 1v4 hard at the same time! Do the same with 1v3s and 1v2's
TROUBLESHOOTING:
Some people have had trouble so just to be clear about how to set up the game so that you do indeed start it correctly and end up getting the achievements. Follow this exactly:
Make sure you go first to multiplayer Create game pick burning tides change game setting to 'custom' move yourself down to say 'team 2' add 4 computers all to 'team 1' make sure they are all on same exact team adjust their skill difficulty (insane) make sure they are all on same exact difficulty start game.
Regarding using this technique for 3v3 custom game achievements: Confirmed: You can get 3v3 achievements this way. When you change the game setting to 'custom' it's true, it will not have two teams of 3. You will have to add 5 AI then drag one of the ai from the team with 4 players into the team with 2 players. THERE IS A TRICK TO THIS. What you have to do is drag the computer to the top part of the other team. There is a bar at the top of the team drag and drop the AI to that spot. The trick is just in the way you drag and drop the members of the team.
Because this is the definitive way to beat as many as 5 insane ai at the same time. The other one was talking about 3 insane ai. I thought that is impressive enough to warrent a new thread.
On September 29 2010 02:25 FuriousX wrote: How did u add insane AI?, i add an AI and it sets to very easy and the option to adjust the difficulty is locked...
If you change the game to 'custom' you will be able to change ai difficulty.
Don't give me too much credit though, I never would have even tried this if it weren't for the thread you created earlier. The little scoreboard ingame just got me wondering what method they were using to determine teams and it led to a bit of a "what if..?" moment.
Big thanks for taking the time to write the guide!
Cheers for the help, still cant get it to work keeps telling me ive got AI on my team n stuff, tried adding them all as seperate teams (1 insane ai in team 2,3,4 etc) will try again later, tired atm.
What Hier says is true, I did not get the 1v3 achievement for doing 1v4 very hard. I tried doing an actual 1v3 on that map (Meaning I didnt have a partner feeding me minerals) but I lost by just over 1k minerals after grabbing all the little crystals
Had to do 1v4, 1v3, and 1v2 separately. The 1v3 one was the closest because you don't get an AI feeding you (or maybe you sometimes do, depending on where he spawns, I didn't get lucky). So I just expanded twice, the rest was on auto pilot.
For people not getting the achievements: make sure you place all the computers in one team, obviously not in your own.
For the guys asking for 1v3 help - I can do a short little writeup on that if the OP does not come back for a bit - might be able to dig up replays too. It's definitely the closest one but it's very doable. If you're playing protoss the key is getting 2 expansions asap (bringing you up to 3 bases, all non gold) and constantly chrono boosting (don't let it wait, you need them asap to get a higher income).
In order to afford the early nexii - send a probe out immediately after the first lava tide and gather as many mineral caches as you can around the map (they're found only on low ground) and as soon as you've got 400 minerals above what you need for probe production throw up a nexus - then throw up a second nexus as soon as possible again by gathering mineral caches around the map (new ones spawn each tide). You'll likely get your third nexus started before the second has finished too.
If you do that quick you'll be on equal ground to the insane AI's very soon. Then you just need to gather mineral caches to get the edge.
It's also possible as zerg - and I found it easier. Just throw up an expansion every time you hit 300 minerals - you can get an insane income in no time.
On September 29 2010 02:55 FuriousX wrote: Cheers for the help, still cant get it to work keeps telling me ive got AI on my team n stuff, tried adding them all as seperate teams (1 insane ai in team 2,3,4 etc) will try again later, tired atm.
Make sure you go first to multiplayer Create game pick burning tides change game setting to 'custom' move yourself down to say 'team 2' add 4 computers all to 'team 1' make sure they are all on same exact team adjust their skill difficulty (insane) make sure they are all on same exact difficulty start game.
On September 29 2010 04:55 ionize wrote: I just got the 1v4 outmatched achievement this way. You can't play with 1v5 insane. it doesn't give you an achievement. 1v4 works perfectly fine.
[Edit 1v3 is very hard. I tried it once and the insane team beat me by 2k minerals.
1v3 insane is indeed harder than 1v4 or 1v5 insane. Follow this build exactly - This is me vs. 3 insane.
On September 29 2010 04:20 KillerPlague wrote: wait what achievement is this for? i just played and won, and did not receive any achievements -_-
edit: do you want me to kill the other team? does it work on custom settings?
You may not have selected 'multiplayer' at the very beginning. Follow this guide EXACTLY.
Make sure you go first to multiplayer Create game pick burning tides change game setting to 'custom' move yourself down to say 'team 2' add 4 computers all to 'team 1' make sure they are all on same exact team adjust their skill difficulty (insane) make sure they are all on same exact difficulty start game.
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