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FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 22:13:38
July 18 2010 04:46 GMT
#1
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All of these articles are hosted on Team Liquid, so don't hesitate to click through!

Last Updated: August 18th

Current List:

*NEW* Moving Carpet Drop *NEW*

Basic Colossi Mechanics
Overkilling Mechanics

User Submitted:

*New* Burrowed Infestor Casting Bug by fdsdfg*New*

New roach trick: Colossi lurking! by Urkl
Upgrade Analysis by BlueSorc
Mining Timing Mechanics
Mind Control Detection Bug by obsid
Building Construction Graphics by vica
Void Ray Tricks by FaZe
Burrowed Infestor Glitches by Zelniq
Patrol Micro to Avoid Clumping by Wr4ith_Bl4d3
DPS Chart for Units by hzhao
Cost Analysis Charts by carwashguy
Upgrade Analysis Data by TossFloss
Upgrade Analysis Data by Karma_

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Hello Team Liquid!

There are a lot of mechanics in Starcraft 2 which we've yet to explore. After my well received colossi mechanics thread, I decided that I'd keep looking into the quirks of different SC2 units.

Some will be obvious and some will be not so obvious, but it should be a lot of fun. And hopefully, someone will learn something new or useful.

Instead of spamming all over the forums, I'll be posting all of my findings in this thread. If we can get the findings verified, I'll be adding them to the SC2 Liquipedia for all to enjoy.

And of course, if you'd like to make an addition to this list, make a post in this thread and PM me the post ID (click the little pound sign in the top right corner of the post). I'll add it to the list immediately.
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Benign
Profile Joined July 2010
United States42 Posts
July 18 2010 04:51 GMT
#2
Perhaps try discovering how the "chain" attack in mutalisks chooses the next target to bounce to?
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 05:13:42
July 18 2010 05:00 GMT
#3
Overkilling Mechanics

As we all know, seige tanks have smart AI and refuse to overkill targets. That got me thinking: This behavior can't just be a seige tank quirk, other units must also share the same overkilling logic.

I decided to test every ranged unit in the game for whether or not it overkills in the following manner:

1. Take five Stalkers
2. Bring one of the stalkers down to where it'd die in one more hit
3. Fire three of the stalkers at the almost dead one, and then immediately fire at the last alive one
4. Repeat with every ranged unit

Now that doesn't sound too intuitive, so I made some videos which will make my testing method very obvious.

Unit Which Overkills (Stalker):


Unit Which Has Smart Targeting (Immortal):


Notice how units which overkill (Stalkers) all fire at the same time when they're attacking the second target. Units which don't overkill (Immortals) will save their shots on the first target and then immediately attack the second target with shots they haven't used yet.

After testing every unit, I've discovered that every unit with an instant ranged attack exhibits smart targetting. This includes:

Terran: Marines, Reapers, Ghosts, Hellions, Tanks (both seiged and unseiged)
Protoss: Immortals
Zerg: None

For some reason, Thors are excluded from the smart targeting logic - perhaps it's because they fire in two bursts instead of one shot.

Also, something interesting to note is that many of those units will look like they're overkilling, but in reality it's just the animation firing off. The biggest offender of this is the Immortal, who looks like it's firing from the blue animation, but doesn't actually overkill.
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BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
July 18 2010 05:07 GMT
#4
Void Ray trick
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 06:10:29
July 18 2010 06:10 GMT
#5
Added a few links that I remember were posted a long time ago but sorta fell into the nothingness. If you guys can think of any other good ones, let's make sure that the people who put their hard work into those aren't forgotten!
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 20 2010 14:04 GMT
#6
Blizzard has stated that smart targeting wasn't intended and it was a side effect of instant attacks. I think it was Dustin Browder that said this in response to the "OH MY GOD TANKS ARE TOO STRONG" comments but he also said that they weren't planning on changing it since the stats say all of the MUs right now are somewhat balanced.
lalala
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
July 20 2010 14:53 GMT
#7
It seems like the overkill mechanics are responsible for a lot of the complaints about Terran, not only due to siege tanks but this also makes early marine-heavy pushes a LOT stronger than they would otherwise be (demolish all 5 zealots in the front of the pack at once instead of one at a time).
=O
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
August 01 2010 19:15 GMT
#8
It's about time I updated this thread!

So the other day I was watching some replays on SC2win.com and I noticed that the pros were doing beautiful moving drops with their medivacs. Now, I had no idea how to moving drop more than 1 medivac at a time, so I decided to do some investigating.

The solution is surprisingly simple.



Because dropping is an ability, you can use the same multicasting mechanics that all other abilities have. All you have to do is select all of your medivacs, hold D, and then rapidly click on all of them while still holding D the entire time.

This results in an easy to execute moving carpet drop.
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Calamity
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada161 Posts
August 01 2010 20:29 GMT
#9
On August 02 2010 04:15 FC.Strike wrote:
It's about time I updated this thread!

So the other day I was watching some replays on SC2win.com and I noticed that the pros were doing beautiful moving drops with their medivacs. Now, I had no idea how to moving drop more than 1 medivac at a time, so I decided to do some investigating.

The solution is surprisingly simple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OabrS0TeLA

Because dropping is an ability, you can use the same multicasting mechanics that all other abilities have. All you have to do is select all of your medivacs, hold D, and then rapidly click on all of them while still holding D the entire time.

This results in an easy to execute moving carpet drop.


Excellent... now my enemies will die under my CARPET BIO BOMB!!!!
Betaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!
Renseru
Profile Joined July 2010
United States45 Posts
August 02 2010 11:57 GMT
#10
Perhaps not as deep(Or deeper?) than some might be looking for, but it is a mechanic and it will go along way in developing theoretical timings for the "ultimate" build. Mining Timing Mechanics.
You're born broke, you die broke, everything in between is variance.
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
August 02 2010 18:49 GMT
#11
On August 02 2010 20:57 Renseru wrote:
Perhaps not as deep(Or deeper?) than some might be looking for, but it is a mechanic and it will go along way in developing theoretical timings for the "ultimate" build. Mining Timing Mechanics.


Thanks, I updated that into the original post. I'm basically looking for anything interesting and putting it into this thread, so that definitely qualifies.
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