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Races of top 100 players

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FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 01:13:38
July 17 2010 00:14 GMT
#1
A thread was created with a list of all the known diamond league players. http://sc2.vacau.com/sc2/index.php

I decided to go through each of the top 100 players and see what races they are. Here are my findings.

Protoss: 38
Terran: 36
Zerg: 22
Random: 4

Edit: I quickly went through the next 100. so here is a pool of the top 200 players.

Protoss: 75
Terran: 68
Zerg: 47
Random: 10

Went through the data real quick with excel, here's the numbers as of July 18th, 2010 1PM PDT

1120 Protoss
921 Terran
891 Zerg
440 Random
**Thanks to Primadog


http://sc2.vacau.com/sc2/krranks.php

Thanks for the link, jokah, and thanks to martinni for updating the list.
Of the 3635 players in asia diamond division 1v1.

* 1244 are protoss
* 1187 are terran
* 750 are zerg
* 454 are random

So

* 34.22% are protoss
* 32.65% are terran
* 20.63% are zerg
* 12.49% are random
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
July 17 2010 00:15 GMT
#2
Someone should put up the EU top 100 too!
And Asia.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
willeesmalls
Profile Joined March 2010
United States477 Posts
July 17 2010 00:15 GMT
#3
This proves that random is overpowered
InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 00:16:38
July 17 2010 00:15 GMT
#4
I'm loving all the datamining going on.

I hope to see a lot more soon

(Also, a nod to, and inb4, the low Zerg count! I would also love to see the stats for EU/Asia as well to see if the ratios are similar)
i keep going back to my response to chill's fake PM and laughing, then immediately getting a feeling that i assume i'd get if i had an orgasm and the girl said "hahaha guess what i have a dick" -FakeSteve
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 17 2010 00:17 GMT
#5
Thanks for this. Maybe the OP threads will simmer down now. Although yeah, Random is OP. Lol. :p
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
superman.
Profile Joined July 2010
65 Posts
July 17 2010 00:17 GMT
#6
haha and terran is so overpowered!!! riiiiight lol :D
Rea
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany88 Posts
July 17 2010 00:18 GMT
#7
whats the point of such a list aslong you get 5-30 times more ELO for a win then a loss?
(`.*(C=(`.´Q)
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
July 17 2010 00:21 GMT
#8
On July 17 2010 09:18 Rea wrote:
whats the point of such a list aslong you get 5-30 times more ELO for a win then a loss?


Once you play a lot of games that stops happening.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
July 17 2010 00:25 GMT
#9
On July 17 2010 09:18 Rea wrote:
whats the point of such a list aslong you get 5-30 times more ELO for a win then a loss?

Uh what.

Maybe if you're in bronze. I'm getting about even.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 17 2010 00:27 GMT
#10
On July 17 2010 09:25 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 09:18 Rea wrote:
whats the point of such a list aslong you get 5-30 times more ELO for a win then a loss?

Uh what.

Maybe if you're in bronze. I'm getting about even.


what league? I'm getting +12 / -14..? is that just me lol? and I guess a +2 because of bonus pool
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
superman.
Profile Joined July 2010
65 Posts
July 17 2010 00:27 GMT
#11
On July 17 2010 09:25 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 09:18 Rea wrote:
whats the point of such a list aslong you get 5-30 times more ELO for a win then a loss?

Uh what.

Maybe if you're in bronze. I'm getting about even.


yea really. wtf is that guy talking about lol. maybe with a shitload of bonus pool.

Im nearing 600 rating and almost always losses take more than wins give . but thats how it should be, obviously.
Necrosjef
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom530 Posts
July 17 2010 00:30 GMT
#12
Loss for me is -12 and a win is +10
Europe Server Diamond Player: ID=Necrosjef Code=957
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
July 17 2010 00:36 GMT
#13
i also thought that terran is imbalanced. but idk, maybe the 4 gate has to do with a lot of these.
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
July 17 2010 00:39 GMT
#14
it was like this in BW too

protoss is the most straight-forward

terran is a little less straight-forward

and zerg is the least straight-forward

people are going to change, and later on in the highest level, zerg is going to OP the crap out of all the other races
Nony is Bonjwa
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 00:42:17
July 17 2010 00:42 GMT
#15
Protoss all-ins and early aggression account for a lot of the protoss success up to mid level diamond, really.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 00:48:12
July 17 2010 00:43 GMT
#16
Lol oh yeah, rank 200 and I havent played a game since the third day of beta. Protoss is too easy, Most games come down (ZvP) either a all in 4gate, or a gateway forgebuild into a hard to stop 2base collosus. It's so easy to do either of these builds, and it's truly really hard for a zerg to come out ahead.. Dealing with collosus with roach hydra is hard, and if you make 5 too many drones, you lose to a good timing push. It's too demanding in comparison to the protoss strategy. Roaces need a buff against collossi. Hydras are completely useless by any sort of collosus micro.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17018 Posts
July 17 2010 00:43 GMT
#17
On July 17 2010 09:39 Nal_rAwr wrote:
it was like this in BW too

protoss is the most straight-forward

terran is a little less straight-forward

and zerg is the least straight-forward

people are going to change, and later on in the highest level, zerg is going to OP the crap out of all the other races


I'd actually argue that Terran is more straight-forward than Protoss is, especially in their macro mechanic.
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MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 17 2010 00:44 GMT
#18
On July 17 2010 09:39 Nal_rAwr wrote:
it was like this in BW too

protoss is the most straight-forward

terran is a little less straight-forward

and zerg is the least straight-forward

people are going to change, and later on in the highest level, zerg is going to OP the crap out of all the other races

Why is zerg going to " OP the crap out of all the other races"

I do not think Zerg is considered overpowered at all. Please explain what you mean
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
July 17 2010 00:44 GMT
#19
On July 17 2010 09:43 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 09:39 Nal_rAwr wrote:
it was like this in BW too

protoss is the most straight-forward

terran is a little less straight-forward

and zerg is the least straight-forward

people are going to change, and later on in the highest level, zerg is going to OP the crap out of all the other races


I'd actually argue that Terran is more straight-forward than Protoss is, especially in their macro mechanic.


Terran is straight forward macro because they can build anything. so just do 1/1/1. Protoss has to commit to something
superman.
Profile Joined July 2010
65 Posts
July 17 2010 00:47 GMT
#20
On July 17 2010 09:44 FatkiddsLag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 09:43 Empyrean wrote:
On July 17 2010 09:39 Nal_rAwr wrote:
it was like this in BW too

protoss is the most straight-forward

terran is a little less straight-forward

and zerg is the least straight-forward

people are going to change, and later on in the highest level, zerg is going to OP the crap out of all the other races


I'd actually argue that Terran is more straight-forward than Protoss is, especially in their macro mechanic.


Terran is straight forward macro because they can build anything. so just do 1/1/1. Protoss has to commit to something


Protoss can chronoboost probes, put gates anywhere, not build units in battles, and then boom, 13 zealots warping in... I believe protoss is by far easier to macro than terran.

Also cannons, although not commonly used, easier to do than bunkers imo,
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