EPTRaces of top 100 players - Page 2
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
i'd like to see how that plays out by top 100 for each race. i bet it would be a little closer. | ||
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FatkiddsLag
United States413 Posts
On July 17 2010 09:47 superman. wrote: Protoss can chronoboost probes, put gates anywhere, not build units in battles, and then boom, 13 zealots warping in... I believe protoss is by far easier to macro than terran. Also cannons, although not commonly used, easier to do than bunkers imo, no way are cannons easier than bunkers. 100% return is insane. what happens when you place cannons and push out. you have 150 + 150 x cannon# sitting worthless in your base. | ||
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RoMarX
Argentina189 Posts
On July 17 2010 09:18 Rea wrote: whats the point of such a list aslong you get 5-30 times more ELO for a win then a loss? yeah sure thats why you see guys with 100-100 stats with half the points of guys with 20 games | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
Gets updated alot. | ||
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Morphs
Netherlands645 Posts
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
On July 17 2010 09:44 TheKing. wrote: Why is zerg going to " OP the crap out of all the other races" I do not think Zerg is considered overpowered at all. Please explain what you mean I think he means something like this: As P, your standard units are zealot/stalker/sentry + a few higher tier units As T, its either marine/maurader/medivac + etc or hellion/tank/thor + etc As Z, you don't have anything like that so zergs have to try out and experiment with different unit comps. In other words, it's not as "straight-forward" as the other two races so it takes a while longer to figure things out. | ||
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On July 17 2010 09:53 ohN wrote: I think he means something like this: As P, your standard units are zealot/stalker/sentry + a few higher tier units As T, its either marine/maurader/medivac + etc or hellion/tank/thor + etc As Z, you don't have anything like that so zergs have to try out and experiment with different unit comps. In other words, it's not as "straight-forward" as the other two races so it takes a while longer to figure things out. Wow, sure is simplifying races here. Don't try to make it out as if making roach hydra or mutaling/bling requires some sort of strategic genius. I know zerg differs in alot of ways from the other two races, but zerg gets glorified way too much on TL. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On July 17 2010 09:53 Morphs wrote: Considering the fact that diamond level players learn the races the fastest, is it safe to say that there's a reason why zerg is underrepresented? Could it be that at diamond level zerg is considered to weak compared to terran/protoss? considering the fact you get placed into gold after going 5-0 to follow with a 90% win ratio and over 30 games you still remain in gold and people with the same amount with 60% win ratio make it into platinum i have to say your premise is a little wrong :[ | ||
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arnold(soTa)
Sweden352 Posts
warpgates? no scv building? dont have to return to base to mule.... no annoying addons messing up ctrlgroups. Not saying P is OP, that is another debate. | ||
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Martinni
Canada169 Posts
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professorjoak
318 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
On July 17 2010 09:43 Empyrean wrote: I'd actually argue that Terran is more straight-forward than Protoss is, especially in their macro mechanic. Protoss macro mechanic isn't exactly complicated. It's the kid in the candy shop mentality "I want this and this and this" You just put it on what you want faster. Sure there's a lot of subtle chrono boost timings at high level play but at diamond level you just chrono boost what you want to get out faster more or less. And I think its easiest to win with protoss if you just play 1 base style, which is the easiest style to play because you have the initiative so its up to the other players to learn to defend. Definitely having the easiest time with protoss right now of the 3. Zerg proving the most troublesome. (As my BW, and "best" race, as well) | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On July 17 2010 09:57 gillon wrote: Wow, sure is simplifying races here. Don't try to make it out as if making roach hydra or mutaling/bling requires some sort of strategic genius. I know zerg differs in alot of ways from the other two races, but zerg gets glorified way too much on TL. Good thing neither of those unit compositions will beat a strong diamond player except in the case of muta/bling vs Bio Terran. | ||
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DarthLeader
Canada123 Posts
On July 17 2010 09:14 FatkiddsLag wrote: A thread was created with a list of all the known diamond league players. http://sc2.vacau.com/sc2/index.php I decided to go through each of the top 100 players and see what races they are. Here are my findings. Protoss: 38 Terran: 36 Zerg: 22 Random: 4 Also, I found these surprising. I'll soon get a bigger pool of maybe the top 1000. Edit: I quickly went through the next 100. so here is a pool of the top 200 players. Protoss: 75 Terran: 68 Zerg: 47 Random: 10 this is boring so im going to take a break.  This just prooves that zerg are underpowered. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 17 2010 09:53 Morphs wrote: Considering the fact that diamond level players learn the races the fastest, is it safe to say that there's a reason why zerg is underrepresented? Could it be that at diamond level zerg is considered to weak compared to terran/protoss? Over on Asia the roles are a bit reversed still. Lots of the top guys are playing zerg. | ||
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tathecat563
United States96 Posts
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moon`
United States372 Posts
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trueaspects
United States36 Posts
On July 17 2010 10:42 DarthLeader wrote: This just prooves that zerg are underpowered. i believe in asia, zerg is more represented in the top than either terran or protoss. | ||
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