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ToastieNL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands845 Posts
July 20 2010 11:14 GMT
#121
I think the problem might be in tech switching.

If Zerg gets to a tech, they have the longest waiting time to get new units. Lair and Hive take a lot of time, and so do the extra buildings. Might the problem be that most mid- game Zerg units have hardcounters and it's very hard to switch your tech? Maybe Hydra/Muta with mass expand for gas will work!?!

Also, Zergs T3 is sooo late compared to Protoss' or Terrans. Terran has to build an Armory, the Thor could even be considered Mid game, as fast as it can come. The Collosus is a bit later, but it's still WAAAAAAAAAAAY before Broodlords or Ultras even get their tech buidlings started!?

Maybe people hate working hard to get to a tech, to see it hardcountered and untransitionable?
Zerg lategame is imbalanced as shit. Also: "Protoss is really strong recently. Perhaps, it's time for there to be some changes for Terran." -MMA. Even MMA asks for buffs. Srsly Blizzard. Srsly.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 20 2010 11:39 GMT
#122
Let's not forget the fact that to alot of people (including me) Zerg are flat out boring to play. It has nothing to do with how good or balanced the race is, sometimes.
Zignius
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands33 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 12:42:35
July 20 2010 12:42 GMT
#123
On July 20 2010 20:39 DannyJ wrote:
Let's not forget the fact that to alot of people (including me) Zerg are flat out boring to play. It has nothing to do with how good or balanced the race is, sometimes.


Although true, it's exactly the same the other way around.

There are people that find Zerg interesting and Terran and Protoss boring.

So that probably cancels itself out by default.

EDIT: grammar.
Saranghaeyo~ :3
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 12:48:53
July 20 2010 12:48 GMT
#124
Now instead of top 100, try top 50, then top 20 and top 10, and you'll see protoss vanish, terran be dominant with zerg on 2nd

On another thread with winning rates, above 70% it was

11 T
4 P
4 Z

above 75%

5 T
2 Z

Highest with 80%
T
TheFinalWord
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia790 Posts
July 20 2010 13:14 GMT
#125
On July 20 2010 21:48 Duelist wrote:
Now instead of top 100, try top 50, then top 20 and top 10, and you'll see protoss vanish, terran be dominant with zerg on 2nd

On another thread with winning rates, above 70% it was

11 T
4 P
4 Z

above 75%

5 T
2 Z

Highest with 80%
T

link? Couldn't find with search
frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
July 20 2010 13:17 GMT
#126
I dislike the non-use of the Zerg Race. I love Zerg but they are imho too weak. Switched to Protoss.
I had a bad dream. Don't be afraid, bad dreams are only dreams. What a time you chose to be born in...
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 14:00:55
July 20 2010 13:59 GMT
#127
On July 20 2010 22:14 TheFinalWord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:48 Duelist wrote:
Now instead of top 100, try top 50, then top 20 and top 10, and you'll see protoss vanish, terran be dominant with zerg on 2nd

On another thread with winning rates, above 70% it was

11 T
4 P
4 Z

above 75%

5 T
2 Z

Highest with 80%
T

link? Couldn't find with search


http://sc2.vacau.com/sc2/

I counted the top 500 players and those are the results. The thread was this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137162
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
July 21 2010 23:39 GMT
#128
i wonder if these figures will still be like this when release happens
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
July 21 2010 23:42 GMT
#129
Look at the korean server and see the difference...
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
July 22 2010 00:44 GMT
#130
I think its settled then, zerg players apparently need to practice more.
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Orange Goblin
Profile Joined May 2010
218 Posts
July 22 2010 01:44 GMT
#131
On July 17 2010 09:52 TaKemE wrote:
http://starcraftrankings.com

Gets updated alot.


3 Zergs in the Top25...

Why am I not surprised.
Mr Winky
Profile Joined June 2010
United States39 Posts
July 22 2010 03:25 GMT
#132
i like the numbers. Somewhat surprising
The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.
THE_oldy
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia97 Posts
July 22 2010 04:01 GMT
#133
As a regular scrub player (a platinum Z) i don't find race imbalance a problem.

It is annoying to get killed by the same early tank push, but i cant bring my self to call imba. I've beat Ts with the same muta tech switch multiple games in a row, does that mean its imba?

I cant call imba because I'm not good enough to. I always feel that a better zerg could have handled the situation, or a better T could have defended. Seeing even a few zergs amongst the top players validates this for me.

So yes, the stats don't favor the zergs at the nose bleed high level play, but there not ridiculously skewed like 4 Zs, 38 Ps, 60 Ts. So for my level of play the game is effectively balanced. And until I am good enough to be in the nose bleed end of the ladder i feel i can't claim otherwise, stats be dambed.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
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