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goszar
Profile Joined February 2010
Belarus119 Posts
March 28 2010 00:28 GMT
#1
I have been waiting for Starcraft 2 for a long time. I read all available information, I trained my APM for a month or two using various programs.
Now I have beta, played about 600 games, analyzed lots of replays. But I still suck, hanging in the middle of Gold league (was 5th at best pre-wipe).
In most games I lose opponents seem to outplay me by a large margin, even though I think I know build orders and some timings.
So, I need a person who would teach me how to play SC2 (Zerg or Protoss). I can pay via PokerStars funds, don't have other electronic currency atm.
Or please just give an advice - how to become good at SC2? Train macro? Micro? Study replays? Create new strategies? I have no idea.
And please don't say "play a lot". I do play a lot but don't improve.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 28 2010 00:32 GMT
#2
you can't just play you have to find your weaknesses and have an open mind with the ability to learn. The easiest way to get better on your own instead of trying to find a coach is just watch replays of good players, and try to understand everything they do and most importantly why they do it when they do it. Will take you a long way
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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
March 28 2010 00:33 GMT
#3
http://www.gosucoaching.com/
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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 00:34:19
March 28 2010 00:33 GMT
#4
The beta is only a few weeks in, there isn't anyone who knows enough to be a couch yet. Just watch replays and see how others play (ie. hdstarcraft), listen to day9, and.. keep playing. Theres honestly no magic to getting better. you're also well above average.. most of the people in the beta have alot of experience with bw, so i'd say your competing with an elite group.

edit: and watch your replays when u lose
splcer
Profile Joined October 2009
United States166 Posts
March 28 2010 00:34 GMT
#5
analyze replays and then actually do things that changes ur game so u dont lose to the same thing over and over again and macro is more important then micro especailly right now except for like key things like for toss the barrier things that let u live against zerg
That which grows fast, whithers as rapidly. That which grows slowly, endures
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 28 2010 00:34 GMT
#6
every time u lose ask yourself "what more could I have done to win"
follow through on that question
FeeL_ThE_RusH
Profile Joined February 2010
Ireland227 Posts
March 28 2010 00:35 GMT
#7
watchin replays of games you lost and figuring out why you lost is one of the best things you can do
#starcraft.ie on Quakenet, Irish SC2ers assemble
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 00:40:46
March 28 2010 00:36 GMT
#8
go to eG.
they have a training program...dont have link but try asking psyonic reaver for it they can teach u anything u need to know
edit: nvm it was already posted >.>
Viruuus
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany451 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 01:39:27
March 28 2010 01:39 GMT
#9
Basically, the same things that help in poker, will help in starcraft and vice versa.

You need:
1.) Technique: knowing which unit counters which other unit well and how to get that unit asap
2.) Gameplan: Know what you want to do vs your opponents race, find out what he is doing to counter you / what he is opening with, then use 1.)
3.) Execution: Microing/Macroing (especially during battle. This can pretty much only be improved by practising.

Lee Jae Dong fighting!!!
goszar
Profile Joined February 2010
Belarus119 Posts
March 28 2010 09:29 GMT
#10
Thanks everyone, I didn't know about that coaching site. Will analyz losing replays as well.
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
March 28 2010 09:35 GMT
#11
Now I am not even good at this game, but I think the best way to go is to watch each loss you get right away. Really try to figure out why the other guy beat you and what you should have done to counter what he did.

That way you can figure out what it is you need to work on, then take one thing at a time and go into each game with the focus to do that thing better. It might be keeping up probe production, it might be to watch the minimap more or why not to keep your scouting probe alive and so on.

For each thing you practice on, you will get one step closer to being able to multitasking alot better, and therefor playing alot more relaxed which in the end has alot to do with how good you are.
DaBoOoO
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands18 Posts
March 28 2010 09:44 GMT
#12
Goszar you can add me in sc2 DaBoO.aapjenootje

ill help you for free
sc||
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
March 28 2010 09:45 GMT
#13
Post some replays here for people to give you feedback on, that would help people help more.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Batssa
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States154 Posts
March 28 2010 09:46 GMT
#14
What race would you prefer to play, z or p atm? Might get better responses.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
March 28 2010 10:11 GMT
#15
Macroing well is gonna be the biggest thing, especially with a new game like this where nobody really knows exactly the best strategies/builds yet. Just pick 1 or 2 solid build orders that you know work okay and focus the most on macroing.
goszar
Profile Joined February 2010
Belarus119 Posts
March 28 2010 17:52 GMT
#16
I played most games as Zerg; Protoss seems more fun but weaker. If anyone is interested, here are some replays where I'm losing: http://www.mediafire.com/?jnzmhygnlry (3 Protoss and 3 Zerg).
In all of them it's obvious why I lost, even too obvious. But I can't find some common flaw that should be fixed, looks like holes everywhere ;(
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
March 28 2010 21:22 GMT
#17
On March 28 2010 09:34 travis wrote:
every time u lose ask yourself "what more could I have done to win"
follow through on that question


Not only that, but WRITE IT DOWN! Why? So you don't forget! I can't tell you how many times I've lost to something, said "oh, I better not do (or do) that next time"... then lose an hour later in the same manner.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
CagedMind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States506 Posts
March 28 2010 21:35 GMT
#18
What prior exp do you have? Pretty much everyone in platinum has played competitive sc1 or some did wc3.
your micro has been depleted
Cwedhrin
Profile Joined July 2009
United States30 Posts
March 28 2010 21:39 GMT
#19
On March 28 2010 18:29 goszar wrote:
Will analyz losing replays as well.



Remember to not just analyze your losing replays, but your winning ones as well. Instead of looking at just what happened in that specific game, try to think about what you could have done better as well as what your opponent could have done better. Then try to think of counters for what they would have done, had they been playing better. Was there a point where you could have simply crushed him with your army, earlygame? Was there a point where he could have crushed you, but didn't for some reason? Try to figure out the reasons behind his thinking, and be hard on yourself when watching replays. Above all else, of course, during the game scout and try to understand what your opponent's goals are.
Let the winds of war bring snow | Sovereign Meari
athalus
Profile Joined March 2010
United States73 Posts
March 29 2010 00:04 GMT
#20
Echoing what's been said above, watch your losing replays. If you get cheesed, figure out ways to scout for that cheese, or figure out what the "tell" is for that cheese, in a manner that won't ruin your build order. Figure out how to respond to strategies. RTS games aren't just about following an order, they're about reacting to the decisions that your opponent makes. So when you are watching the replays, think "If I had seen X, I could've done Y and that would have saved me," and then figure out how you could have seen "X" coming.
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