• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:47
CEST 02:47
KST 09:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End6Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!43Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WardiTV Mondays 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
SC4ALL II: Brood War Player Announcement 3/4 - soO BW General Discussion Rush's Odyssey Controversy [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group A Small VOD Thread 2.0 CSLAN 4 is Coming! ASL Season 22 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10222 users

TL Mafia XVIII

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 09 2010 21:07 GMT
#18
On February 10 2010 05:53 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 05:36 citi.zen wrote:
3. As soon as one mafia family falls down to 2 or fewer members, they've essentially lost the game- they cannot win, because either they will be wiped out (the other mafia family wins), or they will reduce the other mafia family to 1-2 members in which case the Town wins. What incentive is there for this mafia family to keep playing, considering they cannot win? Will they have some kind of secondary objective, like a consolation prize? e.g. maybe a secondary objective of theirs would be to not be wiped out, in which case once they fall down to 2 members, they have to push for a Town win rather than let the other mafia family win.


This is a very good question.


maybe they retire as mafia and join the townies ?


You can't just retire from the mafia! They'll kill ya! Haven't you ever seen the movies. Though I suppose if there is no one left to kill you, you're good lol.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 09 2010 21:25 GMT
#20
I think if a mafia ends up down to 1-2 players and can't win anymore, their objective just turns to playing spoiler for whichever faction they choose (the other family or the town). I think the natural choice would be the other family - since their original objective was to wipe them out. They can't win, but they can make someone lose.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 10 2010 22:29 GMT
#90
LOL abenson, your picture is friggin awesome.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 12 2010 15:52 GMT
#154
It is based on both as far as I can tell. It goes by post count, but you have to be registered for a certain amount of time to get that icon as well.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 12 2010 16:47 GMT
#157
We need corsairs and valkyries to combat the stacked flying monkey swarm! Maybe some irradiate too.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 12 2010 18:43 GMT
#165
Editing is a clear sign of mafia. I think we should use a double lynch on redtooth to make sure we get the job done right.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 12 2010 19:02 GMT
#167
On February 13 2010 03:58 flamewheel91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2010 02:07 Fulgrim wrote:
On February 13 2010 00:50 Abenson wrote:
wtf?
is the unit avatar measured by post count per day?
I really wanna evolve D:
sidesprang: 250 - ling
flamewheel91: 358 - drone
?!?!?!?!?


Its like pokemon, some evolve faster then others


The ones that evolve later are generally stronger!
...Like the dragons.
Yay. But yeah it's based on a combination of time registered and post count.

Though I've been registered for more than a month and have over 250 posts, so I'm a bit confused right now.


I got mine at around 2 and a half months ... I had over the 250 posts as well.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 14 2010 23:15 GMT
#629
Holy crap I've missed alot since yesterday. Unfortunately I won't have a chance to catch up until I get home tonight.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 14 2010 23:56 GMT
#647
Well I just caught up reading, decided to do it now instead of when I get home.

DrH, now you know how I feel, this is exactly how BillMurray acted to me last game before he was killed. I'm not sure if he is mafia based on his "slip up" but I am sure that BM should stand for bad mannered.

As for the accusations against myself. The connection of the horsemen to my profile picture ... there really isn't a lot I can say in my defense besides it is a dinosaur in my profile picture. Sort of a lame defene, but I'm not sure what else to say.
The moon blinding dreamflower. On this one It would seem the blinding would be a strong connection to the little poem in my profile referring to the Halls of the Blind in Diablo 1. But if you've played the game I think you'd agree with me that the HotB isn't named as such because it blinds you, but because the enemies are invisible.

As for the mayor vote, I'm going to vote for Citi.zen. I've only played one game and he did a nice job for the town. It isn't enough to blindly follow whatever he does, but enough to earn my day 1 vote being that I don't know most of the rest of the candidates.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 00:10 GMT
#663
It has been asked before Scamp, but I honestly can't remember what the message was. It was before the game started ... so the first few pages if you want to go looking for it.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 00:10 GMT
#664
Answer* not message.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 00:13 GMT
#666
On February 10 2010 07:03 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 04:14 meeple wrote:
Sweet... lets get this party started...

Just curious as to why we have the 48 hour days? To be honest in that last game we had the activity to do 24 hours days.


It's not just the activity, the town is totally screwed then since they don't have the time to figure out who the mafia is and then convince everyone to change their votes to that person. In your game a small group of people were extremely active but it took time for the rest of the group to weigh in their opinions and votes. 48 hours is often too short to accomplish that purpose but so far it has worked really well as longer the mafia get kinda screwed.

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 05:15 Zato-1 wrote:
A few questions...

1. If a DT successfully ties a clue to a mafia member / RCs a mafia member, will that DT be told what family the mafia member belongs to? If the answer is yes, will millers appear to be from a random mafia family to DTs?

2. As far as I can see, it's a no-brainer for the mafia families (who don't have the mayor/pardoner among their ranks) to substitute their own members for bodyguards. Am I missing something?

3. As soon as one mafia family falls down to 2 or fewer members, they've essentially lost the game- they cannot win, because either they will be wiped out (the other mafia family wins), or they will reduce the other mafia family to 1-2 members in which case the Town wins. What incentive is there for this mafia family to keep playing, considering they cannot win? Will they have some kind of secondary objective, like a consolation prize? e.g. maybe a secondary objective of theirs would be to not be wiped out, in which case once they fall down to 2 members, they have to push for a Town win rather than let the other mafia family win.

4. What happens in the hypothetical case that all 30 Town members are dead, and after they all die, both families are reduced to 1-2 members each? Does the Town still win?

5. Why does the Gambino Family have a much cooler name than the Sumiyoshi Family?



1. Yes, yes.
2. If it's such a 'no-brainer' the town will simply get the mayor to reveal the bgs then kill them. Mafia have to balance this possibility with the strength of infiltrating office.

3. The Mafia family can still kill off the town and then kill the other family.

4. No, and this needs to be amended to the rules if it is not clear. Town cannot win if it's members are all dead. iirc we had a possible clause saying that the town needed to have a certain number of people left relative to the mafia but I'm not quite sure if it was viable.

If anyone has suggestions to make it so that comebacks are more than possible without having to rely too much on outside interference please give them. This game format was really hard to come up with since we had to design it in such a way that mafia can't team up

5. Give a better name then!


Found it on page 2 scamp. Yes the DTs will be told what family it is.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 00:51 GMT
#696
Did Empyrean have a profile before? It is pretty much blank right now...
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 00:58 GMT
#703
On February 15 2010 09:53 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 09:51 789 wrote:
Did Empyrean have a profile before? It is pretty much blank right now...


He posted a while back saying he doesn't have a password to change his profile. The connection to clues was based on his name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empyrean


Oh I see. Yeah that does seem pretty strong link to the arson killing. I'm a little hesitant to do the first few lynches based off clues though, being as what happened last game when we tried to rely to heavily on them from the start.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 01:01 GMT
#706
On February 15 2010 09:57 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 09:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 15 2010 09:52 Foolishness wrote:
Okay people lets consider a few important ideas that are often overlooked that need to be taken into account soon.

There is absolutely zero reason to vote for Ver. We all know what happened last time he ran for office, I will summarize for those who are unfamiliar:

Ver: "waaa waaa I hate my life soooo many people PMing me waaa waaaa Ace Ace L Ace waa waaa please modkill me waaaa"

Point being, if you are town there is no reason to want Ver in office. If Ver is on the town side, he's only going to rage quit in two days. If Ver is mafia, you don't want a mafia in office. Don't elect someone who is going to cop out a third of the way through the game. At any rate, he has only half-heartedly made a campaign for office, I don't think he even wants to be elected anyways. Lots of people in the thread have been reinforcing their arguments with players' behavior in past games. Well, Ver's behavior in past games when he is elected is to rage quit. If you are one of these people that uses arguments like these, don't vote for Ver.

As I am sure someone else will do it, there seems to me to be a boatload of people who have yet to post or who have only made one or two posts (worthless posts might I add, for example OH HI IM HERE IMMA GO READ THE THREAD AND CATCH UP). As it has been correctly pointed out before, the mafia is going to be hiding among these inactive people. We have seen clearly in past games how the town goes ballistic killing itself while the mafia sits back and laughs. Lets make sure we keep track of all these people not contributing.

Okay, anyone who thinks we should kill Bill Murray is a complete idiot. Yes, that means you redtooth and DoctorHelvetica. And also laaan although you haven't explicitly said anything. Even BM pointed out that if he was mafia, he'd have other mafia members telling him what to post and how to do it. He is obviously way too incompetent where that would be the case this game. Furthermore, there are a bunch of inactive people, if he was mafia, I'm sure he'd be sitting right in that pool.

Remember guys, this is online mafia on teamliquid. This means that the teams are stacked for balancing issues (in other words, mafia members are not chosen at random). In a previous game where all of the veteran players where on the townside, the mafia got raped hard. With the addition of two mafia families, we can be reasonably sure that at least one, probably a few, of the veterans is mafia. While L's posts are almost all worth ignoring, he wants to kill Ace, who is a veteran, and thus we have to slog through his nonsensical posting. But killing off Ace is definitely something the town should highly consider. Perhaps you think Ace is too godly to kill off yet. If so, Ver has good analysis of BC, of which should be considered.

Remember guys, a veteran on the mafia side is a huge threat. They have the power to organize the mafia to victory. A mafia without a veteran is relatively helpless. On the contrast, the town can make do without a veteran. In fact, lots of times veterans hurt the town more than they help (I could site numerous examples, but I'm sure you all know). It's really easy for a novice player to step up as a green/blue and lead the town to victory. Heck I have nearly pulled this feat off in my first two games when I correctly found over 50% of the mafia. And I definitely pulled it off without any so called "veterans". It's clear that killing veterans is the right course of action as we could potentially deal a substantial blow to the mafia.


Considering Bill Murrays hotheaded attitude and erratic behavior in the previous game, I wouldn't be surprised if he posted without mafia direction. Besides, "oh i wouldnt do this if i was mafia dohohoho so i must be a townie" arguments are pretty weak.

Bill Murray isn't my #1 suspect anyway.


I'm confident that if Bill is mafia, he'll fuck up so massively in the next few days that we'll be conclusively sure of it.


Word. If he is mafia he'll either stop posting (which he says he will) or slip up again when he does. I think we should concentrate elsewhere for the time being. There seems to be 2 schools of thought: go for inactive or go for veterans, with many sub arguments in those 2 categories.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 01:05 GMT
#712
On February 15 2010 10:01 L wrote:
In retrospect, that reply to 789 was rather mean. Despite hating to put 'fluff' posts up, I feel the need to keep decorum seeing as someone has been warned before and apologize for the tone.

But still, try to keep up with what's being said for crying out loud.


Yeah I made a simple mistake, I had forgotten about that last killing. I am attempting to keep up.................. I'm sorry that I had other things to do over the weekend and had 25+ pages to keep up on. You could have just simply corrected me?
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 01:14 GMT
#715
On February 15 2010 10:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 10:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Where else is there to go?


@789


Well, as I said the 2 school of thought look like go for inactives or go for veteran players. If we go for inactives, we could combine that with clues and go for EMP... that seems to be the best way to go if we go after an inactive to me. As for veterans .. I don't personally have a leading candidate in mind there myself. Some of the stuff going on with accusations and stuff seems to be pre-existing grudges from other games.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 01:17 GMT
#720
On February 15 2010 10:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 10:14 789 wrote:
On February 15 2010 10:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 15 2010 10:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Where else is there to go?


@789


Well, as I said the 2 school of thought look like go for inactives or go for veteran players. If we go for inactives, we could combine that with clues and go for EMP... that seems to be the best way to go if we go after an inactive to me. As for veterans .. I don't personally have a leading candidate in mind there myself. Some of the stuff going on with accusations and stuff seems to be pre-existing grudges from other games.


Lynching Empyrean gives us no information. Although the clue connection is solid, Ace has a strong clue AND behavioral connection imo and we learn a lot depending on how he flips. It has nothing to do with if he's a veteran or not.


Yeah I was going to mention the ace thing, but decided against it since it has been discussed quite a bit already.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 01:33 GMT
#733
On February 15 2010 10:25 Mystlord wrote:
You know, labeling people as blue, red, or green is nice and all...
but we should be concentrating on the mayoral elections.

I for one don't want to end up putting a crap or mafia mayor/pardoner into office because people are just riding the bandwagon.


I agree. It would be nice for all the candidates to say who they plan to lynch if elected and why.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 01:38 GMT
#738
On February 15 2010 10:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 10:33 789 wrote:
On February 15 2010 10:25 Mystlord wrote:
You know, labeling people as blue, red, or green is nice and all...
but we should be concentrating on the mayoral elections.

I for one don't want to end up putting a crap or mafia mayor/pardoner into office because people are just riding the bandwagon.


I agree. It would be nice for all the candidates to say who they plan to lynch if elected and why.


Did we all not?

I will lynch Ace if elected mayor.


Well, I was bringing it up again since things may have changed since people made their "im running for the election" positions. It is possible with the flurry of posting going on since the start that at least 1 of them could have changed their opinions.

I don't know who I would lynch if I was getting elected, but I'm not really against the notion of lynching ace.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The Patches Monday
16:15
#3
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3476
GuemChi 2194
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm204
League of Legends
JimRising 482
Counter-Strike
summit1g10179
Fnx 894
minikerr62
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1003
PPMD95
Other Games
shahzam618
C9.Mang0447
ToD393
Maynarde131
m0e_tv99
Trikslyr60
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick855
BasetradeTV39
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH183
• Hupsaiya 103
• davetesta44
• OhrlRock 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21531
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
9h 13m
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
GSL
10h 13m
PiGosaur Cup
23h 13m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
The Patches Monday
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 4
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.