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idakeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada8 Posts
September 05 2010 09:21 GMT
#16281
What about shaco? Isn't he just a complete boss 1v1 because of his clone? I would think a tanky and bloodrazor built shaco would win vs nasus.
bw4lyfe
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 09:34:44
September 05 2010 09:34 GMT
#16282
On September 05 2010 16:34 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 14:59 Soloside wrote:
On September 05 2010 14:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Actually yeah Soloside if you could lay off on the associating yourself with people thing it'd be cool, like when you tell us you're having a man-date with uta for lunch. None of us really care and it's kinda uncomfortable.


you just mad. shouldn't you be coming up with new lesson plans for your students?

anyways 5hit, since when did you have a stick up your ass? A kid can't troll the LoL thread?

Anyways Tony, way to dodge slam in basketball again.


edit;

who said anything about utahime?

Ok, I was wrong about lunch with uta, it was lunch with wra, but look--

Seriously man, just stop trying to act like any of us like you or care about you. You're not that good at this game, you're not known to most of the posters here, you're insulting and arrogant and really, really awkward.

I'm not saying I'm different, but do you really have to bring everyone's personal lives into the thread so it looks like you know them?


First off, I'm pretty sure I'm better than you at this game. Secondly, I'm not known to many posters here because I don't post anything worthy. I don't take this game serious enough to discuss why cloak + giant belt is better than banshees veil. Thirdly, you if you can't take any sarcasm, I suggest you grow up and act your age. Like EZPZ and Gozey have said earlier this summer, you should act your age.


ps. Tony, way to dodge basketball again T_T

User was temp banned for this post.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 05 2010 09:37 GMT
#16283
flat blue cdr ,but id probably switch it out for mres/lvl
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51520 Posts
September 05 2010 09:41 GMT
#16284
On September 05 2010 18:34 Soloside wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 16:34 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On September 05 2010 14:59 Soloside wrote:
On September 05 2010 14:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Actually yeah Soloside if you could lay off on the associating yourself with people thing it'd be cool, like when you tell us you're having a man-date with uta for lunch. None of us really care and it's kinda uncomfortable.


you just mad. shouldn't you be coming up with new lesson plans for your students?

anyways 5hit, since when did you have a stick up your ass? A kid can't troll the LoL thread?

Anyways Tony, way to dodge slam in basketball again.


edit;

who said anything about utahime?

Ok, I was wrong about lunch with uta, it was lunch with wra, but look--

Seriously man, just stop trying to act like any of us like you or care about you. You're not that good at this game, you're not known to most of the posters here, you're insulting and arrogant and really, really awkward.

I'm not saying I'm different, but do you really have to bring everyone's personal lives into the thread so it looks like you know them?


First off, I'm pretty sure I'm better than you at this game. Secondly, I'm not known to many posters here because I don't post anything worthy. I don't take this game serious enough to discuss why cloak + giant belt is better than banshees veil. Thirdly, you if you can't take any sarcasm, I suggest you grow up and act your age. Like EZPZ and Gozey have said earlier this summer, you should act your age.


ps. Tony, way to dodge basketball again T_T


This argument ends now, leave it through via PMs. Any sort of going back to this via this thread will result in a hasty ban.
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 05 2010 09:42 GMT
#16285
I'm thinking about buying udyr, what full glyphs (would I need to buy) and masteries would I take (probably some 1/15/15 type thing I'm guessing)?

I own arm pen, magic pen, crit damage reds: dodge, crit damage yellow: ap, crit damage blues: flat hp, crit damage quints. Someone said attack speed, but would I just put that in all of my spots?
Vernom
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Spain374 Posts
September 05 2010 10:09 GMT
#16286
On September 05 2010 18:42 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I'm thinking about buying udyr, what full glyphs (would I need to buy) and masteries would I take (probably some 1/15/15 type thing I'm guessing)?

I own arm pen, magic pen, crit damage reds: dodge, crit damage yellow: ap, crit damage blues: flat hp, crit damage quints. Someone said attack speed, but would I just put that in all of my spots?

21-9-0

arm pen, dodge and cdr
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
September 05 2010 10:26 GMT
#16287
How about a Zilean with anti-wither redundancy? At 40%, you can keep Time Warp running on 2 targets, and i'm fairly sure that Nasus can't kill Zilean twice in 22 seconds. With a good enough kite, Bombs might be enough to kill Nasus over a long period of time, but i'm not sure? It'd require a ridiculous level of play, though.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 05 2010 10:35 GMT
#16288
On September 05 2010 18:42 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I'm thinking about buying udyr, what full glyphs (would I need to buy) and masteries would I take (probably some 1/15/15 type thing I'm guessing)?

I own arm pen, magic pen, crit damage reds: dodge, crit damage yellow: ap, crit damage blues: flat hp, crit damage quints. Someone said attack speed, but would I just put that in all of my spots?

Masteries are pretty up to personal preference. I like to go 11/9/10 on Junglers so I get max armor pen, dodge, and neutral buff. Neo swears by 9//0/21, I've seen Mogwai say he does something like 1/x/x. I'd say it's basically mandatory to have at least the exp mastery from the utility tree.

I usually go mr/level glyphs on Udyr, he doesn't really need cdr.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 05 2010 10:40 GMT
#16289
You can't do it that way though, because we're assuming non-kiting, otherwise the Nasus player could just say "lol k, then im just gonna stand in this brush, now what clockman?"

I am starting to like Urgot. He was just introduced at a really bad time -_- Having everyone be so damn tanky doesn't exactly provide urgot with any choices of champions to swap. If the dominant champs were soraka, heimer, kat, or nidalee again, he'd be a huge thorn for all of them. Ult-initiate into randuin on their entire team is pretty slick.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 10:49:21
September 05 2010 10:47 GMT
#16290
Oh, kiting was out? The posts made it seem like you had until the gap was closed, which (except against Yi and maybe 1/2 other melee) never really happens. In that case, you could probably still build Zilean tanky enough to force a draw, but I don't think that you could kill Nasus without kiting because of the LL.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
September 05 2010 10:56 GMT
#16291
What do you guys think of this 11-9-11 Mastery build on WW?

Archaic Knowledge + Nimbleness + Utility mastery.

http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/2110400120000001030401000000013040002000000
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 05 2010 11:09 GMT
#16292
On September 05 2010 19:56 -Kato- wrote:
What do you guys think of this 11-9-11 Mastery build on WW?

Archaic Knowledge + Nimbleness + Utility mastery.

http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/2110400120000001030401000000013040002000000

you simply wont do enough damage evar without 21 offend... the 15% damage is much bigger than a movement for dodge so to get defend for ww...
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 05 2010 11:35 GMT
#16293
On September 05 2010 20:09 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 19:56 -Kato- wrote:
What do you guys think of this 11-9-11 Mastery build on WW?

Archaic Knowledge + Nimbleness + Utility mastery.

http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/2110400120000001030401000000013040002000000

you simply wont do enough damage evar without 21 offend... the 15% damage is much bigger than a movement for dodge so to get defend for ww...

15% damage? What exactly are you talking about?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 05 2010 11:42 GMT
#16294
On September 05 2010 20:35 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 20:09 NB wrote:
On September 05 2010 19:56 -Kato- wrote:
What do you guys think of this 11-9-11 Mastery build on WW?

Archaic Knowledge + Nimbleness + Utility mastery.

http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/2110400120000001030401000000013040002000000

you simply wont do enough damage evar without 21 offend... the 15% damage is much bigger than a movement for dodge so to get defend for ww...

15% damage? What exactly are you talking about?

yea i got confused by that as well
You can't milk those!
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 11:45:00
September 05 2010 11:43 GMT
#16295
On September 05 2010 20:09 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 19:56 -Kato- wrote:
What do you guys think of this 11-9-11 Mastery build on WW?

Archaic Knowledge + Nimbleness + Utility mastery.

http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/2110400120000001030401000000013040002000000

you simply wont do enough damage evar without 21 offend... the 15% damage is much bigger than a movement for dodge so to get defend for ww...


Going deep in offensive tree is fail - Wazzabi even said so.

Also you need as much utility as u can get.

Im using 16/0/14 like heaven said. Working ok so far. You just need to balance it out with runes, with whatever mastery build u do. Either balance or focus on something. Pretty sure well rounded is the way to go. Hell I even got greed since it seems im the only one buying wards most games and usually poor lol. 1% run speed is negligble imo.
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Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
September 05 2010 12:14 GMT
#16296
On September 05 2010 20:43 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 20:09 NB wrote:
On September 05 2010 19:56 -Kato- wrote:
What do you guys think of this 11-9-11 Mastery build on WW?

Archaic Knowledge + Nimbleness + Utility mastery.

http://leaguecraft.com/masteries/2110400120000001030401000000013040002000000

you simply wont do enough damage evar without 21 offend... the 15% damage is much bigger than a movement for dodge so to get defend for ww...


Going deep in offensive tree is fail - Wazzabi even said so.

Also you need as much utility as u can get.

Im using 16/0/14 like heaven said. Working ok so far. You just need to balance it out with runes, with whatever mastery build u do. Either balance or focus on something. Pretty sure well rounded is the way to go. Hell I even got greed since it seems im the only one buying wards most games and usually poor lol. 1% run speed is negligble imo.


Wazzabi said that was a long time ago, when WW was not viable at all. Still, almost no one runs 21/x/x anymore. WW Definitely doesn't need the last couple of masteries from offensive, so 16 is probably the deepest you should spec.

Tbh, you are playing the wrong hero if you want to get big damage from WW.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
September 05 2010 12:24 GMT
#16297
On September 05 2010 19:35 ArC_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 18:42 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I'm thinking about buying udyr, what full glyphs (would I need to buy) and masteries would I take (probably some 1/15/15 type thing I'm guessing)?

I own arm pen, magic pen, crit damage reds: dodge, crit damage yellow: ap, crit damage blues: flat hp, crit damage quints. Someone said attack speed, but would I just put that in all of my spots?

Masteries are pretty up to personal preference. I like to go 11/9/10 on Junglers so I get max armor pen, dodge, and neutral buff. Neo swears by 9//0/21, I've seen Mogwai say he does something like 1/x/x. I'd say it's basically mandatory to have at least the exp mastery from the utility tree.

I usually go mr/level glyphs on Udyr, he doesn't really need cdr.

Udyr is best built tanky tbh, speed is his best weapon thanks to BEAR STANCE and it makes randuin extremely easy to hit their whole team in teamfights/chases.

The optimal setup for him would be something along the lines of 1/14/15 with the MS buff in utility.

Runes actually matter a lot on udyr, especially in the early levels: AS reds allow you to hit 4 times before you have to change stance from lv 2 on, cdr blues allow you to keep your passive on and build stacks on your starting golem, MS quints are just needed to roam/chase.

As for yellows you can get either dodge (the most obvious looking choice) or scaling mregen since you pretty much have to always have blue on yourself, and if the opposing team keeps their blue warded you/your caster might run into some trouble.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 05 2010 12:46 GMT
#16298
Warwick should never spec into the last tier offensive masteries.

To reiterate:
The last tier talent (5% increased damage) is for BASE damage only. Does not scale with items.


Warwick doesn't need to kill someone faster than they kill him because he heals for so much he should win the 1v1 anyway. It is more important to live through a volley of burst damage than it is to gib someone. Thus defensive masteries are much more important and grabbing a GA after mercury treads is usually how I see a lot of WW's build. With the tanky metagame he can just go to town with auto attack and Q and kill everyone on a team without breaking a sweat.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 05 2010 12:57 GMT
#16299
I run 9/0/21 on WW for the 21st point in the skill tree and the CDR/movespeed after buffs/mana/xp. You don't really need defense because warwick is such a boss at keeping his HP high in jungle and the 15% pen is as far as I can see going for--but what do you guys put 16 in offense for? I'm probably missing something, is it the attackspeed? Usually I prefer CDR to attackspeed on warwick because his ult is so huge and Q does mad damage.

I'm going to be really happy next patch when E can be toggled. Ganks are going to be so much easier.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
September 05 2010 13:02 GMT
#16300
Maybe i should start to play again :D

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