On September 05 2010 21:57 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:

I'm going to be really happy next patch when E can be toggled. Ganks are going to be so much easier.

yea im going to love that buff, i hate having E scare people away

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

September 05 2010 14:19 GMT

#16302

Vlad dies to Eve + Ryze on his 1v2 lane. Gets Oracles as his first item. Dies to Eve again. Gets another Oracles.

3 enemies down, Trynd and Ryze defend at inhib tower. Push or Baron? I ping Baron. Repeatedly. Vlad bluepills, 3 people push. Riiiight.

Morde wants to report Malz, I never understood why. Though Void Staff straight after boots makes me sceptical.

Nobody flamed me for my Ring Boots Ring Ring Ring Ring build. Usually they do when we lose. I already had Mercs, Aegis, Abyssal and a Giants Belt by the end though, so I guess they just didn't notice during the game.

ghen

United States1356 Posts

September 05 2010 14:42 GMT

#16303

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

September 05 2010 15:09 GMT

#16304

Actually I swear I posted a REAL jungle chogath guide somewhere, that one was just a brag post of me being like "I am so good, look at my clown items and sick k/d" lol. I'll look for it and try to get it to you.

Kingske

Belgium252 Posts

September 05 2010 15:12 GMT

#16305

5hit is great jungle cho, ask him about it

Netherlands12045 Posts

September 05 2010 15:16 GMT

#16306

nothing by NB the imba? you have missed lots of serious note mister

this week i will start using the under used champs such as sivir or yi to go through 1400 elo... wish me luck :<
I have some theory on advance ban/pick with 1/2/2 laning (2 mid) but i dont have a good team to test it out :<...
simply its is 2 heavy pusher like heim and soraka at mid, ashe/sivir on top and bot has 1 tank 1 initial like cho+panth. You basicly want to make heim at your last pick and ban WW and morg (or amumu and morg). Clarity clavoir on soraka and tele/rally on heim (in case ashe screw up) or the opposite.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

September 05 2010 15:19 GMT

#16307

5HITCOMBO's real jungle Cho guide

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

September 05 2010 15:19 GMT

#16308

On September 06 2010 00:12 Kingske wrote:
5hit is great jungle cho, ask him about it

I am 5HIT

see what i did there?

ghen

United States1356 Posts

September 05 2010 15:23 GMT

#16309

PM it to southlight !!

the guides section is severely outdated.

Haemonculus

United States6980 Posts

September 05 2010 15:36 GMT

#16310

On September 06 2010 00:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
5HITCOMBO's real jungle Cho guide

noway that guy's a noob bm bm bm bm

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

September 05 2010 15:38 GMT

#16311

On September 05 2010 22:02 dellesh1ruH wrote:
Maybe i should start to play again :D

dellebabz @ eu client! feel free to add

You gotta PM southlight for it, since he wont be arond to update as much (if you want to be sure that he will do it)

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

September 05 2010 16:25 GMT

#16312

Got him, added a giant section for the big posts, and added 5hit's guide.

STS17

United States1817 Posts

September 05 2010 16:33 GMT

#16313

Someone had pointed out (I believe it was Mogwai) that it was simple to track a junglers progress by checking their CS periodically. I wonder if anyone has the numbers to be able to estimate their level, as well as average creep score when a hero attempts a "fast dragon" (so knowing this, you could delay the ward until the approach this number to maximize the useful time the ward is active).

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

September 05 2010 16:35 GMT

#16314

Assuming they start at blue
3 = 2
7 = 3
11 = 4 <-- assuming they skip lizard and go twin golems

Beyond that it branches out a lot (ganking etc) so it becomes much more difficult to tell.

EzPz was tracking Udyr's jungle by just watching the creep areas and listening, lol.

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

September 05 2010 16:40 GMT

#16315

On September 06 2010 01:35 Southlight wrote:
Assuming they start at blue
3 = 2
7 = 3
11 = 4 <-- assuming they skip lizard and go twin golems

Beyond that it branches out a lot (ganking etc) so it becomes much more difficult to tell.

EzPz was tracking Udyr's jungle by just watching the creep areas and listening, lol.

Define listening?I mean, I saw some dude who tracked or fiddle down with clairvoyance once but "listening" do yo mean watching the creeps ? :O

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

September 05 2010 16:42 GMT

#16316

The same way you can hear if they're baroning - if you hover over the fog of war for an area you can actually hear the sound emanating from it, so apparently he could hear the phoenix stance proccing. Not sure if it's limited to just Udyr you'd have to ask him (HeavOnEarth) for more specifics.

r33k

Italy3402 Posts

September 05 2010 16:57 GMT

#16317

On September 06 2010 01:42 Southlight wrote:
The same way you can hear if they're baroning - if you hover over the fog of war for an area you can actually hear the sound emanating from it, so apparently he could hear the phoenix stance proccing. Not sure if it's limited to just Udyr you'd have to ask him (HeavOnEarth) for more specifics.

iirc it applies to all aoe spells. It's pretty similiar to the trick where you check the fog of war when their kass is snatching blue or trying to gank and see the spell animation.

PaleMan

Russian Federation1953 Posts

September 05 2010 16:57 GMT

#16318

todays ESL LoL fail was awesome