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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 05 2010 06:52 GMT
#16261
On September 05 2010 15:36 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 15:33 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:47 Ruken wrote:
Nasus can beat any champion 1v1 with max items
usage of skills allowed? how high is SS leveled to? is this at level 6 or level 18? do they start at a distance and run to each other before fighting (giving a ranged champ a chance to kite?)? i say yi trynd pirate poppy kennen all give him a run for his money
still think it's jax.



oh yeah i didn't even think about jax but yeah jax would run over anyone 1v1 if skills were allowed
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 05 2010 07:12 GMT
#16262
1500 finally. Had to stop playing champions I either suck with or that are bad.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 07:29:56
September 05 2010 07:23 GMT
#16263
played taric for the first time today.
i'm a prodigy.
#2 cs, #1 kills, carry feedko
[image loading]

edit: monkey banned my nidalee btw haha.
though it's sorta annoying, it also feels good when they ban your hero.
gives the epeen a bit of a rise.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 05 2010 07:34 GMT
#16264
On September 05 2010 14:59 Soloside wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 14:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Actually yeah Soloside if you could lay off on the associating yourself with people thing it'd be cool, like when you tell us you're having a man-date with uta for lunch. None of us really care and it's kinda uncomfortable.


you just mad. shouldn't you be coming up with new lesson plans for your students?

anyways 5hit, since when did you have a stick up your ass? A kid can't troll the LoL thread?

Anyways Tony, way to dodge slam in basketball again.


edit;

who said anything about utahime?

Ok, I was wrong about lunch with uta, it was lunch with wra, but look--

Seriously man, just stop trying to act like any of us like you or care about you. You're not that good at this game, you're not known to most of the posters here, you're insulting and arrogant and really, really awkward.

I'm not saying I'm different, but do you really have to bring everyone's personal lives into the thread so it looks like you know them?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
September 05 2010 07:38 GMT
#16265
On September 05 2010 16:34 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 14:59 Soloside wrote:
On September 05 2010 14:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Actually yeah Soloside if you could lay off on the associating yourself with people thing it'd be cool, like when you tell us you're having a man-date with uta for lunch. None of us really care and it's kinda uncomfortable.


you just mad. shouldn't you be coming up with new lesson plans for your students?

anyways 5hit, since when did you have a stick up your ass? A kid can't troll the LoL thread?

Anyways Tony, way to dodge slam in basketball again.


edit;

who said anything about utahime?
Ok, I was wrong about lunch with uta, it was lunch with wra, but look--

Seriously man, just stop trying to act like any of us like you or care about you. You're not that good at this game, you're not known to most of the posters here, you're insulting and arrogant and really, really awkward.

I'm not saying I'm different, but do you really have to bring everyone's personal lives into the thread so it looks like you know them?
well he actually was with me though. can we drop this topic plz? let's just make fun of EZPZLMNSQZ trying to look pro instead. it's not too hard! just quote one of his posts, drastically exaggerate his points, and reply in all-caps.

for example:
On September 05 2010 15:37 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 15:07 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On September 05 2010 14:26 HeavOnEarth wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:50 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:27 Tooplark wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:10 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On September 05 2010 11:42 Phrost wrote:
On September 05 2010 11:34 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Ok was doing some IP farming and decided to get a full AS rune page.

Then wondered, how fast could I down the dragon and hit lvl 6.

6:27m (forgot to take screen, can do it again)

I might actually run this setup in a few unranked games :p



You can do it much faster without those runes =/


How?


I think the meaning isn't "as runes slow you down" but "It's possible to pull a faster dragon, even without runes."
See: Fiddle, Warwick. Olaf can dragon at 4 with an elixir I believe. Nunu has a pretty early dragon too if I remember correctly, but I don't play him. Who were you using?


That is not the point.

I down the dragon and hit lvl 6 in 6m..

How much faster than that can you get?

Edit: WW

uhh with red pot ww can do it level 3 (4min iirc)
liz->wraiths->blue->dragon
my standard route is
blue->wolves->wraiths->red->golem with longsword +1 hp pot
port back @ level 4, buy madreds razor, do dragon @ level 4, hit level 5.(more around then 5 min mark)
16/0/14 atk speed quint/red cdr blue flat armor ylw


Read again. Lvl 6.
theres no point in waiting that long to dragon
also i hit 6 about the same time as you with both routes
LOOL EZPZ SO PRO 72% WINRATE WARWICK #1 NUMBA ONE CAN HIT LEVEL SIX WITH NOT ONE BUT TWO ROUTES. NO POINT IN WAITING THAT LONG TO DRAGON SINCE HE CAN DO IT AT LEVEL 0 WITH ONLY HALF HEALTH. L2P KHUL SADUKAR YOU <72% WINRATE WARWICK.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
September 05 2010 07:57 GMT
#16266
There's just too many proud trolls in this thread. It's like its the cool thing to do now since redtooth and brees do it every post. >_<
Retvrn to Forvms
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 05 2010 08:01 GMT
#16267
Honestly jungle vs jungle is about who can sneak dragon, not who can take it faster. Lots of games go by where dragon doesn't get taken for 15 minutes because it's just straight-up not safe to attempt because it's warded by both teams and no deaths have happened. The first person to try it gets ganked and it turns into a 4v4+dragon fight where the junglers try to smite-steal the dragon while fighting a 4v4.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
September 05 2010 08:04 GMT
#16268
Can you guys try to post less like 12 year olds and more like the 20-somethings you actually are? Thanks! Kinda ironic considering these very people have PMed us about post quality in this thread in the past.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 05 2010 08:06 GMT
#16269
On September 05 2010 02:28 Ruken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 01:45 arb wrote:
[image loading]

Sorry i just couldnt resist, especially after Garen tells me "Plz Dont Feed" and teemo calls me a bitch for not letting him in mid

EDIT : and i had about 3400~ mana so Red orb was hitting for like 600-700, and each bounce of blue orb youd just watch their hp melt away(it was doing 300~ or so)

omg I hate Yoshimitsu. Hugest asshole Teemo player ever.

yeah he was a fucking dickhead
their entire premade was faggots
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 05 2010 08:14 GMT
#16270
finishing your route asap, and doing dragon before theirs can buy a ward = sneak.
its easy enough to see if mid or bottom reacts to you stepping in and doing dragon so u can get away, and ww is always full when doing dragon as well.
even if its warded u can buy a vision ward and keep threatening it/backing off.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 05 2010 08:25 GMT
#16271
On September 05 2010 15:52 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 15:36 redtooth wrote:
On September 05 2010 15:33 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:47 Ruken wrote:
Nasus can beat any champion 1v1 with max items
usage of skills allowed? how high is SS leveled to? is this at level 6 or level 18? do they start at a distance and run to each other before fighting (giving a ranged champ a chance to kite?)? i say yi trynd pirate poppy kennen all give him a run for his money
still think it's jax.



oh yeah i didn't even think about jax but yeah jax would run over anyone 1v1 if skills were allowed

I think I read something about maxed items before? SotD?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 08:29:59
September 05 2010 08:29 GMT
#16272
On September 05 2010 15:52 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 15:36 redtooth wrote:
On September 05 2010 15:33 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:47 Ruken wrote:
Nasus can beat any champion 1v1 with max items
usage of skills allowed? how high is SS leveled to? is this at level 6 or level 18? do they start at a distance and run to each other before fighting (giving a ranged champ a chance to kite?)? i say yi trynd pirate poppy kennen all give him a run for his money
still think it's jax.



oh yeah i didn't even think about jax but yeah jax would run over anyone 1v1 if skills were allowed

We tried Jax vs Nasus. He lost. Tryndamere was the only champ out of the ones we tried to get even close to killing Nasus. Wither is just too much to overcome.

Fights were at level 18.
Any runes/Any masteries.
No summoner abilities.
Started outside dragon pen in river and both champs start at a distance.
Nasus was at 120-200 Siphon strike.

I think the build I used vs Jax,trynd, and warwick was:
Frozen Heart, Randuins, Thornmail, Tri-Force, Stark's, Infinity Edge.

With cooldowns and whatnot almost every other attack was a siphon strike+sheen proc for almost half their HP. Spirit fire was reducing armor by 40 ontop of the stark's aura, wither was slowing attack speed by something like 80%, Fury of The Sands was upping attack damage even further as the fight went on.
MIK Terran
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
September 05 2010 08:31 GMT
#16273
Oh also the time Tryndamere came close to killing Nasus was with both buffs and all three elixers.
MIK Terran
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
September 05 2010 08:36 GMT
#16274
On September 05 2010 17:25 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 15:52 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 05 2010 15:36 redtooth wrote:
On September 05 2010 15:33 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:47 Ruken wrote:
Nasus can beat any champion 1v1 with max items
usage of skills allowed? how high is SS leveled to? is this at level 6 or level 18? do they start at a distance and run to each other before fighting (giving a ranged champ a chance to kite?)? i say yi trynd pirate poppy kennen all give him a run for his money
still think it's jax.



oh yeah i didn't even think about jax but yeah jax would run over anyone 1v1 if skills were allowed
I think I read something about maxed items before? SotD?
on a side note, does SotD neutralize exhaust?
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 08:41:50
September 05 2010 08:39 GMT
#16275
On September 05 2010 17:36 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 17:25 spinesheath wrote:
On September 05 2010 15:52 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 05 2010 15:36 redtooth wrote:
On September 05 2010 15:33 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:47 Ruken wrote:
Nasus can beat any champion 1v1 with max items
usage of skills allowed? how high is SS leveled to? is this at level 6 or level 18? do they start at a distance and run to each other before fighting (giving a ranged champ a chance to kite?)? i say yi trynd pirate poppy kennen all give him a run for his money
still think it's jax.



oh yeah i didn't even think about jax but yeah jax would run over anyone 1v1 if skills were allowed
I think I read something about maxed items before? SotD?
on a side note, does SotD neutralize exhaust?

Pretty sure it doesn't. Misses not dodges.
I think everyone would just take cleanse/exhaust so that's why I didn't use summoners
MIK Terran
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
September 05 2010 08:53 GMT
#16276
On September 05 2010 17:29 Ruken wrote:

We tried Jax vs Nasus. He lost. Tryndamere was the only champ out of the ones we tried to get even close to killing Nasus. Wither is just too much to overcome.



Have you tried WW? Can he do something?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51499 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 08:57:18
September 05 2010 08:56 GMT
#16277
On September 05 2010 17:04 H wrote:
Can you guys try to post less like 12 year olds and more like the 20-somethings you actually are? Thanks! Kinda ironic considering these very people have PMed us about post quality in this thread in the past.


Honestly, redtooth, you complain, you set an example.
Even though I skim the thread once every a couple of days if I see any examples of sub-par posting it will be an instant temporary ban, no questions asked.
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Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 09:13:46
September 05 2010 09:06 GMT
#16278
On September 05 2010 15:37 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 15:07 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On September 05 2010 14:26 HeavOnEarth wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:50 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:27 Tooplark wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:10 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On September 05 2010 11:42 Phrost wrote:
On September 05 2010 11:34 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Ok was doing some IP farming and decided to get a full AS rune page.

Then wondered, how fast could I down the dragon and hit lvl 6.

6:27m (forgot to take screen, can do it again)

I might actually run this setup in a few unranked games :p



You can do it much faster without those runes =/


How?


I think the meaning isn't "as runes slow you down" but "It's possible to pull a faster dragon, even without runes."
See: Fiddle, Warwick. Olaf can dragon at 4 with an elixir I believe. Nunu has a pretty early dragon too if I remember correctly, but I don't play him. Who were you using?


That is not the point.

I down the dragon and hit lvl 6 in 6m..

How much faster than that can you get?

Edit: WW

uhh with red pot ww can do it level 3 (4min iirc)
liz->wraiths->blue->dragon
my standard route is
blue->wolves->wraiths->red->golem with longsword +1 hp pot
port back @ level 4, buy madreds razor, do dragon @ level 4, hit level 5.(more around then 5 min mark)
16/0/14 atk speed quint/red cdr blue flat armor ylw


Read again. Lvl 6.

theres no point in waiting that long to dragon
also i hit 6 about the same time as you with both routes


On September 05 2010 15:37 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 15:07 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On September 05 2010 14:26 HeavOnEarth wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:50 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:27 Tooplark wrote:
On September 05 2010 13:10 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On September 05 2010 11:42 Phrost wrote:
On September 05 2010 11:34 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Ok was doing some IP farming and decided to get a full AS rune page.

Then wondered, how fast could I down the dragon and hit lvl 6.

6:27m (forgot to take screen, can do it again)

I might actually run this setup in a few unranked games :p



You can do it much faster without those runes =/


How?


I think the meaning isn't "as runes slow you down" but "It's possible to pull a faster dragon, even without runes."
See: Fiddle, Warwick. Olaf can dragon at 4 with an elixir I believe. Nunu has a pretty early dragon too if I remember correctly, but I don't play him. Who were you using?


That is not the point.

I down the dragon and hit lvl 6 in 6m..

How much faster than that can you get?

Edit: WW

uhh with red pot ww can do it level 3 (4min iirc)
liz->wraiths->blue->dragon
my standard route is
blue->wolves->wraiths->red->golem with longsword +1 hp pot
port back @ level 4, buy madreds razor, do dragon @ level 4, hit level 5.(more around then 5 min mark)
16/0/14 atk speed quint/red cdr blue flat armor ylw


Read again. Lvl 6.

theres no point in waiting that long to dragon
also i hit 6 about the same time as you with both routes


I think you misunderstood. I hit 6 after finishing dragon.

On September 05 2010 17:53 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 17:29 Ruken wrote:

We tried Jax vs Nasus. He lost. Tryndamere was the only champ out of the ones we tried to get even close to killing Nasus. Wither is just too much to overcome.



Have you tried WW? Can he do something?


WW full AS with bloodthirster or two should be able to do it. Doesnt really matter how much health they have since u will steal it and regen urself. Battle of attrition ftw.

I havent faced a nasus in a long time and certainly not a max item one so I could be wrong.

On September 05 2010 17:14 HeavOnEarth wrote:
finishing your route asap, and doing dragon before theirs can buy a ward = sneak.
its easy enough to see if mid or bottom reacts to you stepping in and doing dragon so u can get away, and ww is always full when doing dragon as well.
even if its warded u can buy a vision ward and keep threatening it/backing off.


All things going well you finish dragon then turn around and rape anyone that comes to gank u lol. Unless its their whole team which u should see coming anyway.

Edit: Blue flat cdr or cdr/lvl?
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
September 05 2010 09:10 GMT
#16279
On September 05 2010 17:53 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 17:29 Ruken wrote:

We tried Jax vs Nasus. He lost. Tryndamere was the only champ out of the ones we tried to get even close to killing Nasus. Wither is just too much to overcome.



Have you tried WW? Can he do something?

WW did the worst out of Trynd>Jax>WW

I've been thinking...pretty much no mage could do it since MR items are OP and if they can't burst Nasus down right away they're done for since even at the max 40% cooldowns, they won't get another chance to use their abilities before Nasus closes the gap. If they build survivability they're taking away precious item slots from AP.

This survivability/damage balance was the same problem we were having with the above mentioned champs. Banshees veil was worthless since I could just pop the bubble with the Randuin's active. Having anything more than one armor item was taking too much away from DPS and even one thornmail seemed pretty worthless. Merc treads to lessen the duration of wither was tried but it turned out worse than using that slot for DPS.
MIK Terran
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
September 05 2010 09:14 GMT
#16280
Ok good thing my 2nd char is Nasus lol.

Good to know.
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