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New inhouse logistics TBD. In the meantime, feel free to hang out in the league general discord https://discord.gg/0lCEKA3jUEFxERzd ("add lol" in #welcome) and get some ad-hoc games going!
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
July 27 2013 23:30 GMT
#141
Registration
- Ingame name
Flakes
- Rank and division
Silver 2
- If you are a lowbie (Gold or below), include what position you would be interested in working on. (List two)
Top, Marksman
- For each role, identify two champions you wish to improve on
Top: Jax, Cho'gath
Marksman: Twitch, Ezreal
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 23:49:54
July 27 2013 23:49 GMT
#142
these still going on?
fire alarm woke me up so i might as well play some games
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 00:23:21
July 28 2013 00:21 GMT
#143
July 27th, 4 PM
Top: GhandiEAGLE v UpperB
Jungle: Oss117 v Neo
Mid: Ketara v z0r
AD: Helspeth v checkers
Sup: Omnom v misder
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 28 2013 00:31 GMT
#144
I felt like it went pretty well. I learned a lot of things, although the skype set-up was a little bit awkward. I'd say it was a success.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 28 2013 00:34 GMT
#145
hosting another game if people would like to join

plz join the chan

Channel on NA PvP.net is "SPUDparty", case sensitive.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 00:42:43
July 28 2013 00:36 GMT
#146
Yeah the skype set-up was super awkward.

I don't understand why we aren't using teamspeak when there is a specific TL teamspeak we can use with its own dedicated LoL section. That way we can all get in one room at the start, chat, then split into two rooms for the games, then all get back in one room after the game and talk about it. It also makes it so people don't have to give their skype info out, which some people may not be comfortable with (although most prob don't give a shit)

But it was a fun game. I def. made a few mistakes.


The point was brought up that the team comps were awkward and they're probably going to continue to be awkward, and I think that's a little bit of a bad thing. I understand that people want to learn specific champions and that's cool, but if you're trying to be a tryhard and be competitive, there are some champions that are straight up bad, and some champions that are straight up bad in certain team comps, and teaching people these things should be a necessary part of the entire thing.

It'd be really nice if we had a high level asshole like 5hit or something who would spectate and take people aside and be like "Do not play that champion in this composition what is wrong with you."
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
July 28 2013 00:39 GMT
#147
pretty sure if you can convince neo that skype is horrible, then teamspeak will prevail
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checkers
Profile Joined June 2010
United States16 Posts
July 28 2013 00:41 GMT
#148
July 27th, 4 PM
AD: Helspeth v checkers
Sup: Omnom v misder

  • Zyra/Graves vs Janna/Vayne - how should this play out? (was mostly answered in chat after game)
  • When as an AD should I be looking to join teamfights? (doublelift always farm never not farm syndrome)
  • Best things to look for (roaming, objective shoving, jungle pressure) to snowball as bot lane when I get some farm?


Really enjoyed the game, thanks guys.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 00:42:32
July 28 2013 00:41 GMT
#149
Top Lane -- Kennen v. Jax

  • Jax started a trade right at 6; we were both full HP after basing. I decided to all-in, though I wasn't sure if I would be successful, with a very slight minion advantage. I easily won the all in, and was able to secure a kill with flash->WQ.
  • Jax did a good job putting on map pressure while I took top tower, and I was slow to react going mid on one occasion after the tower was down. I put too much priority on keeping a big minion wave away from my tower about a minute before a dragon fight, when I should have gone bot to be with my team in advance.
  • I really, REALLY need to be more careful while backing. Once, I got sniped by Lux ult, and another time, I cleared an extra wave many waves and got caught by Jax with TF movespeed.
  • I think I need to work on transitioning out of early game into team movement -- I felt more comfortable once we were moving/making decisions as 5.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 28 2013 00:44 GMT
#150
Anyone have a replay of the game? I uninstalled LOLReplay because it was crashing my client every time and they weren't even working about 2 months ago. I could go off memory, but it would help a lot to have a replay.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 28 2013 00:46 GMT
#151
On July 28 2013 09:44 zer0das wrote:
Anyone have a replay of the game? I uninstalled LOLReplay because it was crashing my client every time and they weren't even working about 2 months ago. I could go off memory, but it would help a lot to have a replay.

Yeah, uploading now. Will link it.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2013 00:50 GMT
#152
On July 28 2013 09:41 checkers wrote:
July 27th, 4 PM
AD: Helspeth v checkers
Sup: Omnom v misder

  • Zyra/Graves vs Janna/Vayne - how should this play out? (was mostly answered in chat after game)
  • When as an AD should I be looking to join teamfights? (doublelift always farm never not farm syndrome)
  • Best things to look for (roaming, objective shoving, jungle pressure) to snowball as bot lane when I get some farm?


Really enjoyed the game, thanks guys.

Tell Zyra to zone but not get poke herself. You focus on last hitting. If Zyra lands her root, you Dash in, auto, smokescreen, auto as much as possible. You landed a lot of great Collateral Damage for the last hit.

I didn't watch your lane that much but for the most part you were on top of farming. During situations where there are no team objectives to get (a few more minutes until Dragon, we aren't planning to invade) you can go to an open lane to farm but announce it. If there's no lane to farm, go immediately to the jungle.

If you're ahead, you can solo bot lane push, Doublelift-style. Esp as Graves, you're a great duelist. Just tell your support to ward the enemy jungle before she leaves you alone to push. Group when team decides to siege (like when I called for mid inner turret siege), otherwise do your own thing.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2013 00:53 GMT
#153
On July 28 2013 09:41 upperbound wrote:
Top Lane -- Kennen v. Jax

  • Jax started a trade right at 6; we were both full HP after basing. I decided to all-in, though I wasn't sure if I would be successful, with a very slight minion advantage. I easily won the all in, and was able to secure a kill with flash->WQ.
  • Jax did a good job putting on map pressure while I took top tower, and I was slow to react going mid on one occasion after the tower was down. I put too much priority on keeping a big minion wave away from my tower about a minute before a dragon fight, when I should have gone bot to be with my team in advance.
  • I really, REALLY need to be more careful while backing. Once, I got sniped by Lux ult, and another time, I cleared an extra wave many waves and got caught by Jax with TF movespeed.
  • I think I need to work on transitioning out of early game into team movement -- I felt more comfortable once we were moving/making decisions as 5.

My biggest issue with your Kennen was knowing when to group. Jax, more or less, would avoid you in lane, especially after his turret was down. This meant Jax would group with his team earlier. You should shove lane back whenever it pushed onto our side then immediately move towards the team. For as strong as you are, you didn't need to be in top lane that long. Graves split push priority #1. The main reason you should group instead of split push is because of your ulti.

That big Dragon fight, I called for focus on Vayne, you especially should go for her since you were one of the few hard CC we had.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 00:55:33
July 28 2013 00:54 GMT
#154
On July 28 2013 09:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 09:41 upperbound wrote:
Top Lane -- Kennen v. Jax

  • Jax started a trade right at 6; we were both full HP after basing. I decided to all-in, though I wasn't sure if I would be successful, with a very slight minion advantage. I easily won the all in, and was able to secure a kill with flash->WQ.
  • Jax did a good job putting on map pressure while I took top tower, and I was slow to react going mid on one occasion after the tower was down. I put too much priority on keeping a big minion wave away from my tower about a minute before a dragon fight, when I should have gone bot to be with my team in advance.
  • I really, REALLY need to be more careful while backing. Once, I got sniped by Lux ult, and another time, I cleared an extra wave many waves and got caught by Jax with TF movespeed.
  • I think I need to work on transitioning out of early game into team movement -- I felt more comfortable once we were moving/making decisions as 5.

My biggest issue with your Kennen was knowing when to group. Jax, more or less, would avoid you in lane, especially after his turret was down. This meant Jax would group with his team earlier. You should shove lane back whenever it pushed onto our side then immediately move towards the team. For as strong as you are, you didn't need to be in top lane that long. Graves split push priority #1. The main reason you should group instead of split push is because of your ulti.

That big Dragon fight, I called for focus on Vayne, you especially should go for her since you were one of the few hard CC we had.

Yeah, I 100% agree about knowing when to group up, and I think my last bullet was meant to cover that. I did go on Vayne in that dragon fight, but couldn't keep following up after she flashed over the wall and I was pretty low, so I went back onto Lux.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2013 00:58 GMT
#155
For those of you who said Skype setup was awkward, how was awkward? My team seemed to be ok with the setup.

As for team comp, my team just picked what they wanted and it seemed to work out in term of team synergy. Your team (Cho Jax Vayne Janna Lux) was ok. Was it really that bad?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2013 01:01 GMT
#156
On July 28 2013 09:54 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 09:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 28 2013 09:41 upperbound wrote:
Top Lane -- Kennen v. Jax

  • Jax started a trade right at 6; we were both full HP after basing. I decided to all-in, though I wasn't sure if I would be successful, with a very slight minion advantage. I easily won the all in, and was able to secure a kill with flash->WQ.
  • Jax did a good job putting on map pressure while I took top tower, and I was slow to react going mid on one occasion after the tower was down. I put too much priority on keeping a big minion wave away from my tower about a minute before a dragon fight, when I should have gone bot to be with my team in advance.
  • I really, REALLY need to be more careful while backing. Once, I got sniped by Lux ult, and another time, I cleared an extra wave many waves and got caught by Jax with TF movespeed.
  • I think I need to work on transitioning out of early game into team movement -- I felt more comfortable once we were moving/making decisions as 5.

My biggest issue with your Kennen was knowing when to group. Jax, more or less, would avoid you in lane, especially after his turret was down. This meant Jax would group with his team earlier. You should shove lane back whenever it pushed onto our side then immediately move towards the team. For as strong as you are, you didn't need to be in top lane that long. Graves split push priority #1. The main reason you should group instead of split push is because of your ulti.

That big Dragon fight, I called for focus on Vayne, you especially should go for her since you were one of the few hard CC we had.

Yeah, I 100% agree about knowing when to group up, and I think my last bullet was meant to cover that. I did go on Vayne in that dragon fight, but couldn't keep following up after she flashed over the wall and I was pretty low, so I went back onto Lux.

Was your Flash down? Vayne Flashed onto the cliff and I Flashed after her but apparently no one else did. XD
If I'm fully committed on sticking to the ADC, you should follow up. I don't think she could reach you as long as you didn't get into her range when her Tumble is up. If she Tumbles to create space away from Xin, you're safe.

Lastly, watch when you activate your ultimate, there were a few times where you triggered it a second or two too early.
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tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 01:12:18
July 28 2013 01:09 GMT
#157
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Plat 5

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I'm in low plat but I don't really feel like I'm a "high" plat player more like low plat high gold. I got into plat basically completely with fiddle jungle/ADC through Gold 1. I would love someone to completely destroy my mid and top because I always feel like I gain an advantage and then I can't use it to snowball lanes and if I do fall behind I don't know what to do so I either just hide and farm or get dunked over and over.
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tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 01:11:39
July 28 2013 01:11 GMT
#158
oops >.>
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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 28 2013 01:12 GMT
#159
July 27th, 4 PM
AD: Helspeth v checkers
Sup: Omnom v misder

Zyra/Graves vs Janna/Vayne

1. Tried to trade when Zyra missed her root, with auto tumble + janna shield damage
2. The lane played out well, we had good zoning early on, resulted in a small cs lead
3. Most important thing I want to take away from the game: I did not know when to teamfight, or what to do in a teamfight with multiple aoe spells that could potentially lock me up. Vayne's short range sits awfully with me and I find myself lost when 5v5s break out
Bronze player stuck in platinum
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
July 28 2013 01:14 GMT
#160
July 27th, 5 PM
Top: GTR v Nidalee
Jungle: 5HITCOMBO v xes
Mid: Ahri v Jayce
AD: Graves v Caitlyn
Sup: Sona v Nami

sorry i forgot all your tl names l0l
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