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Mogwai
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Brees
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On September 03 2010 03:30 Mogwai wrote: I honestly just have no respect whatsoever for catalyst first on Ashe/Sivir. It's a bad build and always has been. what about my mejai's first sivir? | ||
Mogwai
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
My build is usually: mana crystal + health pots Catalyst + boots Builds starks asap now Finish merc treads/banshees Once you've got those 3 items you can build w/e the hell you want. I usually just start stacking BF swords lol. | ||
Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On September 03 2010 03:39 Mogwai wrote: That's a super pro build that I hold very near and dear to my heart. I like getting DFG, hiding in brush and then insta-gibbing the first idiot who comes near, lol. yea i didnt even need a solo lane. took side lane and went legendary 16 stacks like 15 minutes into the game lolz. I was raping this kog in my lane hard with it. TRIPLE BOOMERANG KILL think i went like mejai's/sorc boots/rylai's/GA | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
1. d-shield bf Sword boots bloodthirster merc treads Last Whisper/Starks Stack bloodthirsters skills: WEWQWRWQWQRQQEEREE 2. d-ring bf Sword boots bloodthirster merc treads Last Whisper/Starks Stack bloodthirsters skills: QEQWQRQWQWRWWEEREE 1 is for 2v1 lanes or 1v1 vs. not-anivia 2 is for 1v1 vs. anivia or 2v2 | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 03 2010 03:43 Brees wrote: yea i didnt even need a solo lane. took side lane and went legendary 16 stacks like 15 minutes into the game lolz. I was raping this kog in my lane hard with it. TRIPLE BOOMERANG KILL think i went like mejai's/sorc boots/rylai's/GA awww, no DFG? That's my favorite part of AP Siv, lol. | ||
Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On September 03 2010 03:47 Mogwai wrote: awww, no DFG? That's my favorite part of AP Siv, lol. i would if you could get close enough in teamfights to use DFG but you really cant. that and it has no good components, with rylai's you can buy a G-belt early to keep your stacks flowin; | ||
Mogwai
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kdgns
United States2427 Posts
On September 03 2010 03:45 Mogwai wrote: the 2 sivir builds I do: 1. d-shield bf Sword boots bloodthirster merc treads Last Whisper/Starks Stack bloodthirsters skills: WEWQWRWQWQRQQEEREE 2. d-ring bf Sword boots bloodthirster merc treads Last Whisper/Starks Stack bloodthirsters skills: QEQWQRQWQWRWWEEREE 1 is for 2v1 lanes or 1v1 vs. not-anivia 2 is for 1v1 vs. anivia or 2v2 I'll make a note about how I play sivir slightly differently, I switch the position of starks and bloodthirster in the item build. I do this because I push at mid game and finishing starks is a timing for group pushes, generally opponents have carries and you want to group push before the carries get items. Second, I put the fifth level of W at level 18, the advantage it gains, due to being such a low % of your attack that its not worth taking over extra mana from E, which may let you cast an extra Q. | ||
ShoreT
United States489 Posts
She either a.) gets a SS, a couple kills and gets fed and turns into a mega carry or b.) doesn't get stacks and does lackluster damage and is p useless in teamfights. Also, since you went AP, your pushing ability blows and your W is nearly useless off like 95 base damage. I guess if your team avoid teamfights and just gets into poke wars AP Sivir could be alright cause she nukes squishies insanely hard if they catch the end of a BB. Nothing quite like nuking half a squishy who thinks he is safe in brush. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
PTR Notes 9/1/2010: + Show Spoiler + Champions Akali * Fixed a display error with Twin Disciplines and death recap. * Shadow Dance o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Alistar * Headbutt o Can no longer be cast while rooted. * Unbreakable Will o Corrected the tooltip: it removes all crowd control not all debuffs. * Pulverize's tooltip corrected to not imply that enemies do not take damage until they land. * Increased base attack speed and attack speed per level to be approximately at the level of Rammus. Amumu * Bandage Toss o Can no longer be cast while rooted. * Curse of the Sad Mummy o Corrected the debuff tooltip: it renders units unable to attack or move. * Cursed Touch o Magic Resistance Reduction reduced to 15/25/35 from 20/30/40. Annie * Corrected the buff tooltip on Molten Shield so it correctly implies that all attackers receive magic damage. Cho'Gath * Fixed a display error with Vorpal Spikes and death recap. * Feral Scream o Reduced the silence duration to 2/2.25/2.5/2.75/3 seconds from 2/2.5/3/3.5/4 seconds o Reduced the cooldown duration to 13 seconds from 16 seconds Corki * Attack Range increased to 550 from 500. * Valkyre o Can no longer be cast while rooted. * Missile Barrage o Reduced reload time to 10 from 14. * Attack Speed Per Level increased to 2.3 from 1.86 Dr. Mundo * Infected Cleaver o Cost changed to 50/60/70/80/90 from 30/50/70/90/110 o Dr. Mundo is healed for half of the ability cost when the cleaver strikes a target. * Burning Agony o Cost lowered to 20/25/30/35/40 from 20/27.5/35/42.5/50 * Masochism o Cost changed to 25/35/45/55/65 from 15/30/45/60/75 * Sadism o Returns 40/55/70 percent of Mundo's health instead of 50/50/50. Ezreal * Base damage reduced to 45 from 47.6 * Damage Per Level reduced to 2.6 from 3 * Attack Speed Per Level reduced to 2.8 from 3.22 * Mystic Shot o Mystic Shot damage reduced to 35/55/75/95/115 from 40/65/90/115/140 * Essence Flux o Mana Cost reduced to 70/80/90/100/110 from 80/90/100/110/120 Gangplank * Fixed a display error with Grog Soaked Blade and death recap. * Fixed a bug where Gangplank's passive would be replaced with the Grog Soaked Blade debuff text when struck by another Gangplank. Garen * Courage o Max Armor/MR reduced to 5/10/15/20/25 from 7/14/21/28/35 Gragas * Fixed a display error with the tooltip on Barrel Roll's self buff. * Body Slam o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Heimerdinger * UPGRADE!!! o Corrected the tooltip: the slow is actually 20/25/30 not 25/30/35. Kassadin * Nether Blade's level up tooltip correctly states the increased mana cost. * Void Walk o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Katarina * Shunpo o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Karthus * Wall of Pain's level up tooltip correctly states the increased slow amount. Kayle * Reckoning's debuff and death recap tooltips have had erroneous mentions of attack speed slows removed. Kog'Maw * Living Artillery's buff on Kog'Maw correctly states that the increased cost per stack is 40, rather than 50. Malphite * Unstoppable Force o Unstoppable Force is now stoppable... because it can no longer be cast while rooted. Malzahar * Call of the Void o Cooldown reduced to 9 seconds from 10 seconds. * Null Zone o Mana cost reduced to 80/95/110/125/140 from 90/105/120/135/150. o Null Zone no longer places a blank buff on Malzahar. * Malefic Visions o Malzahar's Voidlings will attack the target affected by Malzahar's most recently cast Malefic Visions. * Nether Grasp o Now suppresses summoner spells in addition to stunning the target. o Range increased to 750 from 650. Master Yi * Wuju Style tooltip simplified. * Alpha Strike o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Nasus * Fury of the Sands buff on Nasus no longer incorrectly states that it grants increased attack speed. Nidalee * Pounce o Can no longer be cast while rooted. * Cougar form's tooltip correctly mentions the 10% bonus dodge chance Nidalee gains in Cougar Form. * Corrected a display error with Takedown and death recap. Pantheon * Corrected a display error with Pantheon's auto attack and death recap. * Aegis of Zeonia o Can no longer be cast while rooted. * Grand Skyfall o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Poppy * Heroic Charge o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Shaco * Deceive o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Shen * Shadow Dash o Can no longer be cast while rooted. * Stand United o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Sivir * Typos corrected in the level up tooltips for Spell Shield and Boomerang Blade. Soraka * Starcall o Debuff placed now correctly states that it can stack up to 20x. Taric * Imbue o Base Heal reduced to 80/120/160/200/240 from 100/145/190/235/280 o AP Ratio increased to 1.1 from 0.9 Tristana * Rocket Jump o Debuff placed now correctly states the slow amount. o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Tryndamere * Spinning Slash o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Twitch * Spray and Pray o Buff no longer incorrectly states that he does reduced damage during Spray and Pray. Twisted Fate * Destiny/Gate o Gate can no longer be cast while rooted. Destiny can still be cast while rooted. Veigar * Fixed a typo in Event Horizon. Vladimir * Hemoplague debuff now provides assists. Warwick * Blood Scent o Blood Scent is now a toggle. * Infinite Duress o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Xin Zhao * Audacious Charge o Can no longer be cast while rooted. Summoner Spells Flash * Can no longer be cast while rooted. Teleport * Can no longer be cast while rooted. Items * Sheen, Lich's Bane, Trinity Force o Sheen, Lich's Bane and Trinity Force's "reservoir" system removed. These items will now strictly respect the cooldown time between procs. o Sheen, Lich's Bane and Trinity Force's cooldowns reduced to 2 second delays between procs from 3 seconds. o Normalized the cooldown delay between ranged and melee characters by adjusting the cooldown start time. * Spirit Visage redesigned o Comprised of Null-Magic Mantle, Ruby Crystal, and 375 recipe cost. o 30 Magic Resist o 200 Health o UNIQUE Passive: Reduces ability cooldowns by 12% and increases your healing and regeneration effects on yourself by 20%. * Tears of the Godess o New Recipe: Meki Pendant + Mana Crystal + 205G. o Now gives 350 mana and 7 mp/5 up from 350 mana and 5 mp/5. * New Item: Manamune o Recipe consists of Tears of the Goddess + Long Sword + 500G. o 350 Mana o 7 Mana per 5 seconds. o 20 Attack Damage o UNIQUE Passive: 2% of your maximum mana is converted to attack damage. o UNIQUE Passive: Whenever you attack or use an ability your maximum mana is increased by 4. (2 for attacks) This bonus caps out at 1000 mana. * Randuin's Omen o Tooltip updated to state correct slow amount * Guardian Angel o Champions are now revived at 750 health and 375 mana instead of 40% health and mana. * Regrowth Pendant o Cost reduced to 435 from 450. * Philosopher's Stone o New Recipe: Faerie Charm + Regrowth Pendant + 185G. Total cost now 800 from 1090. General * Abilities with movement or teleport based components now cannot be cast while rooted. * Hyper-Kinetic Position Reverser, Infinite Duress and Nether Grasp now properly suppress and stun their targets. * Suppression prevents summoner spells from being cast, and makes the ability not affected by duration reduction effects such as that granted by Mercury's Treads. * Towers currently attacking a champion will not respond to further calls for help from other champions. * Improved many of the playing as and playing against tips. * Fixed a bug that caused red cannon minions to deal and receive normal damage from towers. * Fixed a bug that caused super creeps to receive normal damage from towers. | ||
Brees
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Secret nerf to tanks: GA: 750 HP is likely less than 40% of a tank's max HP. Philosopher's stone might actually make sense on Ashe, if it pays off quickly enough to speed up the first 5k a bit. CDR Ashe can use the MP5 too. Have to calculate/test to find out. Though I currently like to start with DShield... Btw I usually get my Catalyst on Ashe at lvl 16. Unless I don't get Banshees as tank item. Turns into Banshees asap of course. For some reason it is pretty much always lvl 16. I check because I like to know if I can make use of the passive at all :p I don't like getting anything other than boots before I finish my first 4k in offensive item(s) on Ashe. You need that money to be able to do anything imo. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Mogwai
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
-nvm- I can't do basic math. For some reason I thought 2% of 2000 was 100. It's only 40, haha Still, that's a lot of AD for an item that costs less than a BF sword. | ||
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