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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 02 2010 21:13 GMT
#15941
@ gtrsrs
ezreal porting in to kill kogmaw easy? you have got to be kidding me
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
September 02 2010 21:37 GMT
#15942
On September 03 2010 06:11 HeavOnEarth wrote:
no offense to any guys giving advice as it is appreciated, but seriously, if ur not sure about something or ur low elo, at least say so. some of the advice in this thread makes me want to puke (read nearly every page)


I will commit every post I make about strategy or advice to disclaim my horrible ELO to promote this ideal Hopefully others will do the same.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 21:42:56
September 02 2010 21:42 GMT
#15943
Anyone else than me hate a well played fiddle when you play Vlad? I mean everytime it comes to a teamfight I seem to be stuck with 9000000000sec fear and not being able to do anything except from autoattacking.... oh wait....

so, anyone have any good ways to counter a fiddlestick as Vlademir? I would really like to know if anyone has any awesome guides I could take a look at aswell to see if I can't catch something from whoever is better than me.

( 1313 Elo and stuck )
washed
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 02 2010 21:50 GMT
#15944
On September 03 2010 06:03 rkarhu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 21:00 rkarhu wrote:
Is malzahar still crap? What kind of builds do you recommend on him?


I feel bad for quoting myself but no one has answered and the thread has gone on so somebody might have missed it. SO what do you think?


malz is viable, not sure how much these changes will help him though, ive only lost one ranked game with him(though i dont have a huge sample) and IIRC Brees had like a 9/2 record with mal in ranked

not sure how brees builds him but i usually try for a relatively fast rylai's (nice chunk of ap, some hp for survivability..and a slow is always nice)
after that..i get as much AP as possible.
he has pretty decent AP ratios so i try to abuse that aspect of him as much as possible
i level E and W most, Q last except for 1 level sometime before 10 if i want the silence

ask brees for more info since hes higher ranked than me(especially right now since I am on over a 100 point losing streak)
i just noticed no one had responded to your question and felt bad
You can't milk those!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 02 2010 21:50 GMT
#15945
Fear has very limited range, so unless you're diving for fiddle (maybe) or he's diving for you (quite stupid), you can just try to avoid him until he uses his fear.

Get ready to sanguine pool right when you hear him ult.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 02 2010 21:52 GMT
#15946
On September 03 2010 06:42 Vlanitak wrote:
Anyone else than me hate a well played fiddle when you play Vlad? I mean everytime it comes to a teamfight I seem to be stuck with 9000000000sec fear and not being able to do anything except from autoattacking.... oh wait....

so, anyone have any good ways to counter a fiddlestick as Vlademir? I would really like to know if anyone has any awesome guides I could take a look at aswell to see if I can't catch something from whoever is better than me.

( 1313 Elo and stuck )

How is this a problem of Vlad? It's not like he's especially susceptible to fears.
The only advice I can give you is Merc Treads or Quicksilver Sash (though that feels like overkill if fiddle is your only CC problem, but at least it gives MR which is good against fiddle), good scouting, gamesense (fiddle trap!) and positioning.
Don't even know if Cleanse works against fears. Either it doesn't or I never have it available against fiddle.
As Vlad you might even just go in with your pool/zhonyas and hope that fiddle blows his fears on your allies, but whether that is a good idea or not is questionable.

Since I don't even know my elo and don't want to risk getting too much hate from Heav: Treat advice with caution.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
September 02 2010 21:55 GMT
#15947
Thanks alot, I'll try that out. I've seen people buy spell vamp on him aswell, but I'm not sure how much that is going to help him later on. Been tearing it up with Annie and Morg lately, haven't lost a single game in like 20 games now (cept one or two where I got the most horrible teams ever).
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
September 02 2010 22:05 GMT
#15948
Hey Spines

Might just be me, but everytime I go Vlad and the other team has a fiddle it seems to end up the way I described it. Might just be me, but I'll take any adivce I can get. ty
washed
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 02 2010 22:05 GMT
#15949
On September 03 2010 06:50 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 06:03 rkarhu wrote:
On September 02 2010 21:00 rkarhu wrote:
Is malzahar still crap? What kind of builds do you recommend on him?


I feel bad for quoting myself but no one has answered and the thread has gone on so somebody might have missed it. SO what do you think?


malz is viable, not sure how much these changes will help him though, ive only lost one ranked game with him(though i dont have a huge sample) and IIRC Brees had like a 9/2 record with mal in ranked

not sure how brees builds him but i usually try for a relatively fast rylai's (nice chunk of ap, some hp for survivability..and a slow is always nice)
after that..i get as much AP as possible.
he has pretty decent AP ratios so i try to abuse that aspect of him as much as possible
i level E and W most, Q last except for 1 level sometime before 10 if i want the silence

ask brees for more info since hes higher ranked than me(especially right now since I am on over a 100 point losing streak)
i just noticed no one had responded to your question and felt bad


mostly correct, id only play malzahar if your guaranteed a solo lane, preferably solo mid since you will be pushing the lane. I run flash/ghost 0-9-21 masteries to lane forever.
E-W-E as first 3 levels then max E, then Q, then W.

doran ring, get a catalyst on your trip back, then usually i make rylai's and haunting guise.
after this ill usually turn the catalyst into banshee veil so my ult doesnt get interrupted by 1 spell, finishing with zhonya's.
Brees on in
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
September 02 2010 22:09 GMT
#15950
On September 03 2010 06:50 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 06:03 rkarhu wrote:
On September 02 2010 21:00 rkarhu wrote:
Is malzahar still crap? What kind of builds do you recommend on him?


I feel bad for quoting myself but no one has answered and the thread has gone on so somebody might have missed it. SO what do you think?
malz is viable, not sure how much these changes will help him though, ive only lost one ranked game with him(though i dont have a huge sample) and IIRC Brees had like a 9/2 record with mal in ranked
problem with Malzahar is that his ultimate is a long-duration channel, meaning that he'll need to be uninterrupted the entire length of the cast. that means as soon as he starts eye-nuking someone, he'll be stunned. there is no way he'll get off the full 2.5 seconds regardless of "suppression" or not. WW doesn't suffer as much from this problem since its a ridiculously fast cast before he's done (but he still does suffer).

in comparison, katarina's ultimate goes 2.6 seconds. do you ever see a kat get a full ulti off? luckily her ult is on a 60 second CD (as opposed to 120/100/80 for malz) and voracity is imba so she does the majority of her damage from shunpo/BB while reducing her ult CD even more. she also isn't as squishy and has MUCH better mobility.

on a humorous side note, WW can be stunned mid-jump for his ult. one tried to dive an amumu but a desperation bandage ended up stunning him (it was lined up right between them). however, the WW teleported right next to the 50hp mummy (and withint tower range) and died.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 02 2010 22:17 GMT
#15951
I am going to run up my elo as much as humanly possible this weekend. hopefully its 1650+ or more
then im going to start self moderating this thread.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 02 2010 22:19 GMT
#15952
On September 03 2010 06:52 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 06:42 Vlanitak wrote:
Anyone else than me hate a well played fiddle when you play Vlad? I mean everytime it comes to a teamfight I seem to be stuck with 9000000000sec fear and not being able to do anything except from autoattacking.... oh wait....

so, anyone have any good ways to counter a fiddlestick as Vlademir? I would really like to know if anyone has any awesome guides I could take a look at aswell to see if I can't catch something from whoever is better than me.

( 1313 Elo and stuck )

How is this a problem of Vlad? It's not like he's especially susceptible to fears.
The only advice I can give you is Merc Treads or Quicksilver Sash (though that feels like overkill if fiddle is your only CC problem, but at least it gives MR which is good against fiddle), good scouting, gamesense (fiddle trap!) and positioning.
Don't even know if Cleanse works against fears. Either it doesn't or I never have it available against fiddle.
As Vlad you might even just go in with your pool/zhonyas and hope that fiddle blows his fears on your allies, but whether that is a good idea or not is questionable.

Since I don't even know my elo and don't want to risk getting too much hate from Heav: Treat advice with caution.

Actually fear and silence both wreck vlad cuz he can't pool while he's feared and if he can't pool he can't dodge fiddle's silence. Most silences that you can't dodge wreck vlad, without your skills you don't even really have an auto-attack.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 02 2010 22:37 GMT
#15953
On September 03 2010 04:07 Brees wrote:
i like how they just nerf 1 random champion every patch that no one even said anything about just for fun. they finally gave in to all the CHO IS OP threads. gotta reduce dat silence. I based my whole build around his silence so wont be playing him as much...

Well they reduced the silence duration by what, 1 sec at max level? Pretty big, but I think the CDR they gave compensates for it a little bit. It's not a HUGE nerf, 3 seconds is still long as hell and it will be nice to have the cooldown be closer to rupture (at 10 sec). 16 seconds cooldown for scream was too long I had always felt.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 02 2010 22:45 GMT
#15954
Teemo > Scrubs. Especially AP.
Singed is a little harder to pull off, esp. without runes/masteries, but carries much harder.
Poppy is my favorite so far. Seriously, the crap you pull is hilarious.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 02 2010 22:48 GMT
#15955
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=231913

Kind of surprised, I didn't think there would even be a facade of community input when these decisions came down the pipe. Maybe we shouldn't have been joking about paying for other shit in all the rune page threads =[[
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 02 2010 22:55 GMT
#15956
Just played singed in unranked solo q 3's to relieve some stress, most fun champ ever. "I dont give a shit, I just run around."
1v3 a team no problem.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 02 2010 22:57 GMT
#15957
On September 03 2010 07:05 Brees wrote:

mostly correct, id only play malzahar if your guaranteed a solo lane, preferably solo mid since you will be pushing the lane. I run flash/ghost 0-9-21 masteries to lane forever.

yes, yes, and more yes
You can't milk those!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 02 2010 23:34 GMT
#15958
On September 03 2010 06:13 HeavOnEarth wrote:
@ gtrsrs
ezreal porting in to kill kogmaw easy? you have got to be kidding me


i'm not but that's hardly the point
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 00:16:17
September 03 2010 00:14 GMT
#15959
Played jungle taric (all-random bug when i wanted to practice jungle yi). It sounds like a retarded idea but there's a slight benefit to this, which is that you can safely start the match with an amp tome and farm up boots 1 and mejai before the teamfight stuff starts, something that taric usually doesn't get to do when laning unless he gets fed kills.

Plus he's always at full HP and mana in the jungle, so he can be a pretty big pain in the ass in harassing the enemy mid and jungler as well.
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
September 03 2010 00:17 GMT
#15960
Hey, guys I'm sorry to just waltz back into this thread and post again, but I was wondering if there was anyone who would like to ladder with me solo queue? I generally play tanks now, mainly Singed so if someone who DPS'd could join me that would be wonderful. PM me if you are interested in playing at all.
*My ELO is 1400 right now, constantly between there and 1500, im stuck and wanna move forward.
"Only the Good Die Young"
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