EPTezreal porting in to kill kogmaw easy? you have got to be kidding me
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
ezreal porting in to kill kogmaw easy? you have got to be kidding me | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On September 03 2010 06:11 HeavOnEarth wrote: no offense to any guys giving advice as it is appreciated, but seriously, if ur not sure about something or ur low elo, at least say so. some of the advice in this thread makes me want to puke (read nearly every page) I will commit every post I make about strategy or advice to disclaim my horrible ELO to promote this ideal  Hopefully others will do the same. | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
so, anyone have any good ways to counter a fiddlestick as Vlademir? I would really like to know if anyone has any awesome guides I could take a look at aswell to see if I can't catch something from whoever is better than me. ( 1313 Elo and stuck  ) | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On September 03 2010 06:03 rkarhu wrote: I feel bad for quoting myself but no one has answered and the thread has gone on so somebody might have missed it. SO what do you think? malz is viable, not sure how much these changes will help him though, ive only lost one ranked game with him(though i dont have a huge sample) and IIRC Brees had like a 9/2 record with mal in ranked not sure how brees builds him but i usually try for a relatively fast rylai's (nice chunk of ap, some hp for survivability..and a slow is always nice) after that..i get as much AP as possible. he has pretty decent AP ratios so i try to abuse that aspect of him as much as possible i level E and W most, Q last except for 1 level sometime before 10 if i want the silence ask brees for more info since hes higher ranked than me(especially right now since I am on over a 100 point losing streak) i just noticed no one had responded to your question and felt bad | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Get ready to sanguine pool right when you hear him ult. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 03 2010 06:42 Vlanitak wrote: Anyone else than me hate a well played fiddle when you play Vlad? I mean everytime it comes to a teamfight I seem to be stuck with 9000000000sec fear and not being able to do anything except from autoattacking.... oh wait.... so, anyone have any good ways to counter a fiddlestick as Vlademir? I would really like to know if anyone has any awesome guides I could take a look at aswell to see if I can't catch something from whoever is better than me. ( 1313 Elo and stuck )How is this a problem of Vlad? It's not like he's especially susceptible to fears. The only advice I can give you is Merc Treads or Quicksilver Sash (though that feels like overkill if fiddle is your only CC problem, but at least it gives MR which is good against fiddle), good scouting, gamesense (fiddle trap!) and positioning. Don't even know if Cleanse works against fears. Either it doesn't or I never have it available against fiddle. As Vlad you might even just go in with your pool/zhonyas and hope that fiddle blows his fears on your allies, but whether that is a good idea or not is questionable. Since I don't even know my elo and don't want to risk getting too much hate from Heav: Treat advice with caution. | ||
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rkarhu
Finland570 Posts
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
Might just be me, but everytime I go Vlad and the other team has a fiddle it seems to end up the way I described it. Might just be me, but I'll take any adivce I can get. ty | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On September 03 2010 06:50 StuffedTurkey wrote: malz is viable, not sure how much these changes will help him though, ive only lost one ranked game with him(though i dont have a huge sample) and IIRC Brees had like a 9/2 record with mal in ranked not sure how brees builds him but i usually try for a relatively fast rylai's (nice chunk of ap, some hp for survivability..and a slow is always nice) after that..i get as much AP as possible. he has pretty decent AP ratios so i try to abuse that aspect of him as much as possible i level E and W most, Q last except for 1 level sometime before 10 if i want the silence ask brees for more info since hes higher ranked than me(especially right now since I am on over a 100 point losing streak) i just noticed no one had responded to your question and felt bad mostly correct, id only play malzahar if your guaranteed a solo lane, preferably solo mid since you will be pushing the lane. I run flash/ghost 0-9-21 masteries to lane forever. E-W-E as first 3 levels then max E, then Q, then W. doran ring, get a catalyst on your trip back, then usually i make rylai's and haunting guise. after this ill usually turn the catalyst into banshee veil so my ult doesnt get interrupted by 1 spell, finishing with zhonya's. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On September 03 2010 06:50 StuffedTurkey wrote: problem with Malzahar is that his ultimate is a long-duration channel, meaning that he'll need to be uninterrupted the entire length of the cast. that means as soon as he starts eye-nuking someone, he'll be stunned. there is no way he'll get off the full 2.5 seconds regardless of "suppression" or not. WW doesn't suffer as much from this problem since its a ridiculously fast cast before he's done (but he still does suffer).malz is viable, not sure how much these changes will help him though, ive only lost one ranked game with him(though i dont have a huge sample) and IIRC Brees had like a 9/2 record with mal in ranked in comparison, katarina's ultimate goes 2.6 seconds. do you ever see a kat get a full ulti off? luckily her ult is on a 60 second CD (as opposed to 120/100/80 for malz) and voracity is imba so she does the majority of her damage from shunpo/BB while reducing her ult CD even more. she also isn't as squishy and has MUCH better mobility. on a humorous side note, WW can be stunned mid-jump for his ult. one tried to dive an amumu but a desperation bandage ended up stunning him (it was lined up right between them). however, the WW teleported right next to the 50hp mummy (and withint tower range) and died. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
then im going to start self moderating this thread. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On September 03 2010 06:52 spinesheath wrote: How is this a problem of Vlad? It's not like he's especially susceptible to fears. The only advice I can give you is Merc Treads or Quicksilver Sash (though that feels like overkill if fiddle is your only CC problem, but at least it gives MR which is good against fiddle), good scouting, gamesense (fiddle trap!) and positioning. Don't even know if Cleanse works against fears. Either it doesn't or I never have it available against fiddle. As Vlad you might even just go in with your pool/zhonyas and hope that fiddle blows his fears on your allies, but whether that is a good idea or not is questionable. Since I don't even know my elo and don't want to risk getting too much hate from Heav: Treat advice with caution. Actually fear and silence both wreck vlad cuz he can't pool while he's feared and if he can't pool he can't dodge fiddle's silence. Most silences that you can't dodge wreck vlad, without your skills you don't even really have an auto-attack. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On September 03 2010 04:07 Brees wrote: i like how they just nerf 1 random champion every patch that no one even said anything about just for fun. they finally gave in to all the CHO IS OP threads. gotta reduce dat silence. I based my whole build around his silence so wont be playing him as much... Well they reduced the silence duration by what, 1 sec at max level? Pretty big, but I think the CDR they gave compensates for it a little bit. It's not a HUGE nerf, 3 seconds is still long as hell and it will be nice to have the cooldown be closer to rupture (at 10 sec). 16 seconds cooldown for scream was too long I had always felt. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Singed is a little harder to pull off, esp. without runes/masteries, but carries much harder. Poppy is my favorite so far. Seriously, the crap you pull is hilarious. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
Kind of surprised, I didn't think there would even be a facade of community input when these decisions came down the pipe. Maybe we shouldn't have been joking about paying for other shit in all the rune page threads =[[ | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
1v3 a team no problem. | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On September 03 2010 07:05 Brees wrote: mostly correct, id only play malzahar if your guaranteed a solo lane, preferably solo mid since you will be pushing the lane. I run flash/ghost 0-9-21 masteries to lane forever. yes, yes, and more yes | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On September 03 2010 06:13 HeavOnEarth wrote: @ gtrsrs ezreal porting in to kill kogmaw easy? you have got to be kidding me i'm not but that's hardly the point | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Plus he's always at full HP and mana in the jungle, so he can be a pretty big pain in the ass in harassing the enemy mid and jungler as well. | ||
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mptj
United States485 Posts
*My ELO is 1400 right now, constantly between there and 1500, im stuck and wanna move forward. | ||
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