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TheGreenMachine
Profile Joined March 2010
United States730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 00:37:16
September 03 2010 00:32 GMT
#15961
Yeah Im at 1350-1400 ranked and looking for a duo queue partner, I play veigar, sion, blitz, or anyone if you can give me a good build
Don't forget to get everyone you know to play HOTS so this game we love called Starcraft will live on. Every little bit helps. ^^
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
September 03 2010 00:43 GMT
#15962
On September 03 2010 09:14 Juicyfruit wrote:
Played jungle taric (all-random bug when i wanted to practice jungle yi). It sounds like a retarded idea but there's a slight benefit to this, which is that you can safely start the match with an amp tome and farm up boots 1 and mejai before the teamfight stuff starts, something that taric usually doesn't get to do when laning unless he gets fed kills.

Plus he's always at full HP and mana in the jungle, so he can be a pretty big pain in the ass in harassing the enemy mid and jungler as well.


Speaking of Jungle Taric, what's the order for him? Since I still play a lot of unranked, there's a lot of games where we have no junglers, and that seems interesting enough to me to want to try.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
September 03 2010 00:50 GMT
#15963
On September 03 2010 09:43 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 09:14 Juicyfruit wrote:
Played jungle taric (all-random bug when i wanted to practice jungle yi). It sounds like a retarded idea but there's a slight benefit to this, which is that you can safely start the match with an amp tome and farm up boots 1 and mejai before the teamfight stuff starts, something that taric usually doesn't get to do when laning unless he gets fed kills.

Plus he's always at full HP and mana in the jungle, so he can be a pretty big pain in the ass in harassing the enemy mid and jungler as well.


Speaking of Jungle Taric, what's the order for him? Since I still play a lot of unranked, there's a lot of games where we have no junglers, and that seems interesting enough to me to want to try.


He can kill creeps pretty fast, and can actually be a surprisingly strong jungler. However imho it's just silly to have a taric and not have him off laning making one of your towers un-pushable.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 00:55:45
September 03 2010 00:53 GMT
#15964
Right now Im just doing Q,W,W,E,W,R.

I have some attack speed runes so I can spam as much heal as I want with or without golem buff. Level 1 imbue keeps me topped off fairly well but you can get Q to level 2 as well.

The fast mejai lets taric's team snowball into unkillable pretty quickly, and will probably be even better once the heal AP ratio is buffed (next patch?).

Something like mejai, mercs, aegis sounds pretty good.
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
September 03 2010 01:00 GMT
#15965
Gotta love how flawed this game is. If only someone out there was as smart as I am and knew how to properly fix/balance MOBA's.
#1 LoL player
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 03 2010 01:06 GMT
#15966
On September 03 2010 10:00 Jazriel wrote:
Gotta love how flawed this game is. If only someone out there was as smart as I am and knew how to properly fix/balance MOBA's.


Yea, it's definitely as easy a task as you think it is in your head, especially that part where the playerbase just finally 'gets' how to use a champ and they become exceptionally strong despite being thought of as 'meh' beforehand(hi Ezreal).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 03 2010 01:16 GMT
#15967
Anyone plays sivir? How exactly does ricochet work? If I have madred's razor and my first hit procs 500 damage, does the next bounce do 400?
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
September 03 2010 01:18 GMT
#15968
Maknoon has a full page of wins, 9 of them as Pantheon.

No more complaining, Smash!
Retvrn to Forvms
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 03 2010 01:21 GMT
#15969
pantheon blows
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Nogardeci89
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States113 Posts
September 03 2010 01:22 GMT
#15970
On September 03 2010 10:16 Juicyfruit wrote:
Anyone plays sivir? How exactly does ricochet work? If I have madred's razor and my first hit procs 500 damage, does the next bounce do 400?


the only thing ricochet gains bonus from with out any penalty are
life steal
attack speed
armor pen

which is why people rush starks
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
September 03 2010 01:24 GMT
#15971
On September 03 2010 10:22 Nogardeci89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 10:16 Juicyfruit wrote:
Anyone plays sivir? How exactly does ricochet work? If I have madred's razor and my first hit procs 500 damage, does the next bounce do 400?


the only thing ricochet gains bonus from with out any penalty are
life steal
attack speed
armor pen

which is why people rush starks


That's dumb.

Attack speed and lifesteal are effected just as much as damage is, and armor pen prolly is too (I don't feel like thinking atm).
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
September 03 2010 01:34 GMT
#15972
On September 03 2010 10:24 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 10:22 Nogardeci89 wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:16 Juicyfruit wrote:
Anyone plays sivir? How exactly does ricochet work? If I have madred's razor and my first hit procs 500 damage, does the next bounce do 400?


the only thing ricochet gains bonus from with out any penalty are
life steal
attack speed
armor pen

which is why people rush starks
That's dumb.

Attack speed and lifesteal are effected just as much as damage is, and armor pen prolly is too (I don't feel like thinking atm).
that's dumb. of course attack speed isn't effected... her aspd doesn't get affected when she toggles on ricochet. pretty sure armor pen isn't changed per bounce either. at the same time, life steal is a "proc" so i think that only works on the first attack.
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
September 03 2010 01:45 GMT
#15973
On September 03 2010 09:53 Juicyfruit wrote:
Right now Im just doing Q,W,W,E,W,R.

I have some attack speed runes so I can spam as much heal as I want with or without golem buff. Level 1 imbue keeps me topped off fairly well but you can get Q to level 2 as well.

The fast mejai lets taric's team snowball into unkillable pretty quickly, and will probably be even better once the heal AP ratio is buffed (next patch?).

Something like mejai, mercs, aegis sounds pretty good.


Do you run Aspd/Mp5/Mp5/FlatHP? And what order for jungle? Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I have it right.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 01:52:50
September 03 2010 01:47 GMT
#15974
On September 03 2010 10:34 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 10:24 APurpleCow wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:22 Nogardeci89 wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:16 Juicyfruit wrote:
Anyone plays sivir? How exactly does ricochet work? If I have madred's razor and my first hit procs 500 damage, does the next bounce do 400?


the only thing ricochet gains bonus from with out any penalty are
life steal
attack speed
armor pen

which is why people rush starks
That's dumb.

Attack speed and lifesteal are effected just as much as damage is, and armor pen prolly is too (I don't feel like thinking atm).
that's dumb. of course attack speed isn't effected... her aspd doesn't get affected when she toggles on ricochet. pretty sure armor pen isn't changed per bounce either. at the same time, life steal is a "proc" so i think that only works on the first attack.


You deal 100 damage and attack 10 times per second. 1000 DPS. Increase damage by 10. 1100 DPS, 10% increase. Increase attacks/sec by 1. 1100 DPS, 10% increase.

You deal 100 damage and attack 10 times per second, but now you only deal 90% damage. 900 DPS. Increase damage by 10. 990 DPS, 10% increase. Increase attacks/second by 1. 990 DPS, 10% increase.

O jeez. DPS was effected the same by damage and attacks/sec after -10% damage was applied. How odd.

DPS = Damage * Attacks/sec

Apply a 78% modifier to damage (ricochet).

DPS = 0.78(Damage) * Attacks/sec

BUT WAIT THIS IS MULTIPLICATION, SO THAT'S THE SAME AS...

DPS = Damage * 0.78(Attacks/sec)

...Which means you should stack damage, since attack speed suffers a -22% modifier from ricochet, right?
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 01:57:01
September 03 2010 01:53 GMT
#15975
Can bounces crit? Can they be dodged?
Someone needs to test all this crap. Maybe when I finish homework.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 02:28:13
September 03 2010 02:19 GMT
#15976
On September 03 2010 10:45 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 09:53 Juicyfruit wrote:
Right now Im just doing Q,W,W,E,W,R.

I have some attack speed runes so I can spam as much heal as I want with or without golem buff. Level 1 imbue keeps me topped off fairly well but you can get Q to level 2 as well.

The fast mejai lets taric's team snowball into unkillable pretty quickly, and will probably be even better once the heal AP ratio is buffed (next patch?).

Something like mejai, mercs, aegis sounds pretty good.


Do you run Aspd/Mp5/Mp5/FlatHP? And what order for jungle? Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I have it right.


I only tried it once, didn't feel it was terrible, and so I posted the idea here. I don't specialize in jungle taric or something, it just so happens that i was stuck with a jungling spec and randomed taric.

You can technically go any route you want since taric's basically always at full HP/mana while jungling, especially with blue buff. This seems like fairly big advantage because you can wander into their jungle without being in too much danger.

Small golem, wraith, wolves, blue buff, red buff (if their team doesn't have smite, otherwise wait for yours to get off CD), start from small golems again.

You try to get your mejai/boots as fast as possible and then it's full-support time. He can gank or pop into lane to heal someone.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 02:41:27
September 03 2010 02:31 GMT
#15977
On September 03 2010 09:43 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 09:14 Juicyfruit wrote:
Played jungle taric (all-random bug when i wanted to practice jungle yi). It sounds like a retarded idea but there's a slight benefit to this, which is that you can safely start the match with an amp tome and farm up boots 1 and mejai before the teamfight stuff starts, something that taric usually doesn't get to do when laning unless he gets fed kills.

Plus he's always at full HP and mana in the jungle, so he can be a pretty big pain in the ass in harassing the enemy mid and jungler as well.


Speaking of Jungle Taric, what's the order for him? Since I still play a lot of unranked, there's a lot of games where we have no junglers, and that seems interesting enough to me to want to try.


That's odd I usually end up with 3 ppl that wanna jungle on typically laning champs and I have to tell em to get stuffed when I choose warwick lol. Also ppl grabbing smite just to kill 1 spawn at the start of the game zzz.

What do u guys recommend for marks on nasus? Currently using armour pen but considering using atk speed and even getting a AS item ingame since he seems soo slow in teamfights and the ult doesn't increase it like I thought lol.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 03 2010 02:34 GMT
#15978
smite with the smite mastery isn't a total throwaway skill. can counter annie/malz summons and is always a nice free 30ish gold if you use it on a creep and get the +5. not that i would recommend it above ignite/teleport/ghost/flash but it's better than rally/revive \o/
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 03 2010 02:34 GMT
#15979
On September 03 2010 10:53 Tooplark wrote:
Can bounces crit? Can they be dodged?
Someone needs to test all this crap. Maybe when I finish homework.



no yes

sivir can do a lot of damage but its not to 1 person.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 03 2010 02:36 GMT
#15980
revised best kennen ever build

+ Show Spoiler +
flash/ghost
9/21/0
mpen/energy regplvl/cdr plvl/energy reg

QWEWER / then focus E+W

Doran's Shield + Hpot
Doran's Shield (yes get two of them, so pro)
Sorc Boots
Nashor's Tooth
Abyssal Scepter
Zhonyas

You go from a strong laner into a not-squishy stunbot into a killing machine.

I've been doing really well with this build in unranked games (except for the occasional complete meltdown when I solo mid, sorry redtooth )
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