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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 02 2010 19:25 GMT
#15921
I fear " Can no longer be cast while rooted." will become a meme for a while. Also I'm glad they are finally buffing philo stone, since the current version is like a noob trap that prevents better builds/early game skill.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 02 2010 19:25 GMT
#15922
So does the PTR know about Kennen's lightning rush working while silenced? I won't complain if they don't fix it.
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 02 2010 19:35 GMT
#15923
On September 03 2010 04:21 Juicyfruit wrote:
Manamune sounds like a stupidly OP item.

-nvm- I can't do basic math. For some reason I thought 2% of 2000 was 100. It's only 40, haha

manamune is still pretty good I guess. I dunno, I still can't tell exactly how good it is, but it seems like it's quite likely to pay for itself in sheer damage very quickly, which will make it somewhat attractive on guys like Pantheon and Gangplank and Ez.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 02 2010 19:56 GMT
#15924
I feel like along with actually being pretty awesome for a handful of champs, it is tailor made for bringing some legitimacy to trolling games as AD mages =p
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 02 2010 20:03 GMT
#15925
I wanna try manamume into archangel staff stacking on kayle. It sounds niiiice.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 02 2010 20:04 GMT
#15926
omg, it's imba on singed, just realized. not to say that he wasn't already imba, but wow, even more imba. RoA -> Manamune -> Atma's -> Banshee's -> Frozen Heart, ggnore, holy recursive gains batman!
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 02 2010 20:12 GMT
#15927
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2708891#post2708891

hmmm, let's see what comes of this.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 20:14:09
September 02 2010 20:12 GMT
#15928
On September 03 2010 05:04 Mogwai wrote:
omg, it's imba on singed, just realized. not to say that he wasn't already imba, but wow, even more imba. RoA -> Manamune -> Atma's -> Banshee's -> Frozen Heart, ggnore, holy recursive gains batman!

And while you're at it, equip Jax with RoA, Atmas and Manamune.

EDIT:
Forgot Archangels.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 02 2010 20:16 GMT
#15929
I don't think Archangels and Manamune stack, but if they do I think Kayle would explode in a firey ball of simultaneous calculations if you did RoA, Archangel's, Atma's and Manamune
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 02 2010 20:18 GMT
#15930
I hate that stupid redirect so much, I can never see what people link on the official forums >:|
it's my first day
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 20:24:48
September 02 2010 20:19 GMT
#15931
1350+1400(max mana stacks from manamune/aa)+935(kayle's mana at lvl 18)=3685

So that's ~94 AD and ~155 AP for 4750 gold,

Edit: forgot the base ad/ap for manamune and AA, stripping the grb comparison now because it's not fair =p.

It is going to take a long time to get that AA mana stack up though because it has the 2 spells/6 seconds cooldown, and doesn't stack off auto attacks. Basically it looks like if you can purposely turtle out a game, planning on running these 2 items is just insanely cost effective.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
TacoSupreme
Profile Joined March 2010
United States26 Posts
September 02 2010 20:28 GMT
#15932
On September 03 2010 05:19 red_ wrote:
1350+1400(max mana stacks from manamune/aa)+935(kayle's mana at lvl 18)=3685

So that's ~94 AD and ~155 AP for 4750 gold,

Edit: forgot the base ad/ap for manamune and AA, stripping the grb comparison now because it's not fair =p.

It is going to take a long time to get that AA mana stack up though because it has the 2 spells/6 seconds cooldown, and doesn't stack off auto attacks. Basically it looks like if you can purposely turtle out a game, planning on running these 2 items is just insanely cost effective.

Archangels does not stack with tears of goddess for raising max mana so I do not think that manamune and archangel will each give you 1000 extra mana. Still RoA/Manamune/AA is +2475 mana over base. Not bad really, might be worth it.
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
September 02 2010 20:34 GMT
#15933
On September 03 2010 05:04 Mogwai wrote:
omg, it's imba on singed, just realized. not to say that he wasn't already imba, but wow, even more imba. RoA -> Manamune -> Atma's -> Banshee's -> Frozen Heart, ggnore, holy recursive gains batman!


Could he hypothetically spam q every second for 250? seconds until he maxes the stacks. OP ftw.
Derp
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 02 2010 20:37 GMT
#15934
no, that's actually the biggest issue with AA on Singed and why you see so little of it on him. Q is a toggle and as such does not trigger on-cast effects.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
September 02 2010 20:41 GMT
#15935
Ryze needed a buff to rune prison... but Morgana and Amumu don't need to be god tier.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 02 2010 20:43 GMT
#15936
most of those stupid "cannot cast while rooted" changes seem to be PTR specific because you already can't cast most of those spells while rooted.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 20:57:04
September 02 2010 20:52 GMT
#15937
I assume that Tear/AA/Manamune gove 1k bonus mana all together. However, they still add a lot of AD/AP together with RoA etc. as you all know. On Jax that means bonus HP from AD AND AP, which all goes into Atmas, which spirals AD/HP up even more.

Even if you could spam an ability every second (hate spike!), Tear has a 3 second cooldown, or 2 per 6 seconds actually I think.

Singed's Q toggle/AA issue will be relieved with Manamune thanks to the 2 Mana per autoattack thing! Manamune stacks for AA.


Ashe, Yi, Eve, Kass, Teemo vs. Karth, Olaf, Garen, Kog, Sivir.
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22 to 2 kills. 1 of the 2 was a Requiem kill.
I didn't expect that.
We even started with Eve vs Garen top, lol
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
September 02 2010 21:03 GMT
#15938
On September 02 2010 21:00 rkarhu wrote:
Is malzahar still crap? What kind of builds do you recommend on him?


I feel bad for quoting myself but no one has answered and the thread has gone on so somebody might have missed it. SO what do you think?
Kultcher
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 21:08:27
September 02 2010 21:05 GMT
#15939
I like the Guardian Angel change. Seems like it will make fighting against tanks lategame a little less depressing. Especially Cho.

On September 03 2010 06:03 rkarhu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 21:00 rkarhu wrote:
Is malzahar still crap? What kind of builds do you recommend on him?


I feel bad for quoting myself but no one has answered and the thread has gone on so somebody might have missed it. SO what do you think?


Most people seem to think so, or at least that he pales in comparison to other mages. I like him though and strangely seem to die less with him than I do with other mages. I think he does more damage than people give him credit for, too, it's just doesn't look very impressive because it's over time. But if you actually land both hits on a Call of the Void it's a metric ton of damage. Plus Malzahar is a sick farmer so it's easy to power up your AP quickly.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 02 2010 21:11 GMT
#15940
no offense to any guys giving advice as it is appreciated, but seriously, if ur not sure about something or ur low elo, at least say so. some of the advice in this thread makes me want to puke (read nearly every page)
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