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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 09 2013 01:32 GMT
#841
Fuck yes Jim!!
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
August 09 2013 01:32 GMT
#842
On August 09 2013 10:26 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:24 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:22 Mozdk wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Don't do that again. Alicia is a cheating asshole!

You can't blame Alicia you have no idea if he had a part in this.


Yeah and holocaust never happened, Elvis is still alive and no one has ever been to the Moon.

Are you jooking or are you really that naive?


Congrats! That's the shittiest post I've seen for quite some time.
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
August 09 2013 01:32 GMT
#843
TERRY ROFL
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33711 Posts
August 09 2013 01:32 GMT
#844
china :D
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 09 2013 01:32 GMT
#845
3 foreigners in WCS AM ro8 holy shit
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:33:33
August 09 2013 01:32 GMT
#846
On August 09 2013 10:30 Ventris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:28 geokilla wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened

Well as the coach, Crank had all the rights to want Alicia to play Jim and advance and not him. Players first after all. He did show a game, and there is no evidence that Alicia knew what Crank was going to do.

Then he should have forfeited as TT1 said. Throwing a game is just bullshit.
I doubt that Alicia was in it.

If teams didn't exist, i would agree with TT1. But that's not the case.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#847
loool terry the intern is pretty cute, dude is taking over nasl
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#848
Jim and Terry, WCS America is good.
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#849
This intern is suggesting Crank had a mental breakdown in the game? What? What?
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#850
On August 09 2013 10:32 Arevall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:26 Mozdk wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:24 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:22 Mozdk wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Don't do that again. Alicia is a cheating asshole!

You can't blame Alicia you have no idea if he had a part in this.


Yeah and holocaust never happened, Elvis is still alive and no one has ever been to the Moon.

Are you jooking or are you really that naive?


Congrats! That's the shittiest post I've seen for quite some time.


Ty
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#851
On August 09 2013 10:31 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:30 Ventris wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:28 geokilla wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened

Well as the coach, Crank had all the rights to want Alicia to play Jim and advance and not him. Players first after all. He did show a game, and there is no evidence that Alicia knew what Crank was going to do.

Then he should have forfeited as TT1 said. Throwing a game is just bullshit.
I doubt that Alicia was in it.


Forfeiting a game is still match-fixing, doesnt matter if its in goodwill, its still affecting the bracket

But it is actually his right as a player and he wouldn't have wasted our time. He would still have deserved a spanking by TB though.
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#852
On August 09 2013 10:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
3 foreigners in WCS AM ro8 holy shit


Always nice to see NA represented by China
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#853
Feelis lol
jjakji fan
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#854
Felis and Terry are like BFFs now
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TL+ Member
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:34:21
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#855
Here comes the explanation tweet

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rlqkmf

CranK @AxCranK 48s

I didn't say how my mind is going recently. I lost all matches recently except STC HuK. My neck has 2 nerve damages. I only said I could not practice because of neck pain, but my situation was much harder. I couldn't feel confident cuz of I couldn't practice as much as I can and felt like I can't recover like GanZi. My match vs Alicia is kind of all in play. If my opponent difended my rush I can't win even fi I killed many probes, I couldn't know how much I killed. Many people are telling me I should have won but if every situation is going to be kinda bad for me how can I feel confident and play so well? Sorry to make you guys to be confused. I couldn't guess how my game was going exactly. I just thought these games were going to be like practice games. I just guess I was losing.


I don't quite understand how he can't tell how much damage he did, but he probably needs to focus on getting his neck fixed.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#856
Hmm... I'm sure I was just angry about something.... but then Terry the intern showed up ))))
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#857
wait are the ro8 brackets on liquipedia correct? I thought they draw for ro8
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#858
On August 09 2013 10:30 iNsaNe- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:23 blobrus wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:20 Heavenlee wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:18 blobrus wrote:
Someone explain to me what happened? I've been watching TI3, just saw something about Crank on reddit.


You realize you could've just read the last couple pages or clicked on the reddit thread, right? wtf?

The reddit thread says "Crank what?" "???????????". Oh and none of the posts actually give a description of what happened. Thanks for the helpful advice man.


Someone can correct me as I didn't pay that much attention, but..

Crank vs. Alicia, game one Crank does weird gateway push. He eventually gets fend off after killing a few probes, no big lead for anyone, but Crank gg's.

Game two, Crank does the same push but this time gets a lot of probes and has a very big lead, but instead gg's again and Alicia goes 2-0.


They weren't weird gateway pushes. They were the standard super fast 3gate aggression, where you open 10pylon 10gate, build the core as soon as the gate is done, and use most chrono on warpgate. First game, Crank did it vs Alicia and was ahead when Alicia finally fended it off. Then, with a slight lead, Crank GG'd out.

Crank did an identical build in the second game. This time it wasn't just a slight lead. Crank kept his army alive and had Alicia down to 10 probes without losing any probes himself, except for the forward probe, while also going for a SUPER long duration without mining. On even tech, Crank had a MASSIVE advantage that even I could have most likely won from the situation. Then Crank GG'd out.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
August 09 2013 01:34 GMT
#859
On August 09 2013 10:31 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:28 geokilla wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened

Well as the coach, Crank had all the rights to want Alicia to play Jim and advance and not him. Players first after all. He did show a game, and there is no evidence that Alicia knew what Crank was going to do.

As a participant in this tournament there is no distinction between coach and player as far as the rules go. He may have the right to forfeit, I don't know the rules to WCS NA, but he certainly does not have the right to throw games. I would say that a 1 season ban for Crank would not be out of the place for this action. Obviously with no reason to think that Alicia was in on it he shouldn't be punished.

Better yet, why don't we do this?

It was obvious that Crank came out on top over Alicia. Why did NASL proceed to let Alicia play Jim? It should be the other way around. That way, the whole "scandal" would be neglected.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:35:51
August 09 2013 01:34 GMT
#860
On August 09 2013 10:33 revel8 wrote:
This intern is suggesting Crank had a mental breakdown in the game? What? What?


Even before the match vs Alicia, Crank looked super tilted after his mirror match versus Jim. People just want drama.

On August 09 2013 10:34 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:31 rasnj wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:28 geokilla wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened

Well as the coach, Crank had all the rights to want Alicia to play Jim and advance and not him. Players first after all. He did show a game, and there is no evidence that Alicia knew what Crank was going to do.

As a participant in this tournament there is no distinction between coach and player as far as the rules go. He may have the right to forfeit, I don't know the rules to WCS NA, but he certainly does not have the right to throw games. I would say that a 1 season ban for Crank would not be out of the place for this action. Obviously with no reason to think that Alicia was in on it he shouldn't be punished.

Better yet, why don't we do this?

It was obvious that Crank came out on top over Alicia. Why did NASL proceed to let Alicia play Jim? It should be the other way around. That way, the whole "scandal" would be neglected.


It was only obvious to the viewers with full vision. I think a more thorough investigation is needed before we ready our pitchforks.
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