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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#821
On August 09 2013 10:28 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:26 Mozdk wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:24 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:22 Mozdk wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Don't do that again. Alicia is a cheating asshole!

You can't blame Alicia you have no idea if he had a part in this.


Yeah and holocaust never happened, Elvis is still alive and no one has ever been to the Moon.

Are you jooking or are you really that naive?

What makes you think Alicia was in on it? They could have arranged blind counters if that was the case. Based on Twitter TB certainly doesn't approve so I doubt it was a pre-planned strategy. Probably just a stupid decision from Crank. Alicia didn't do anything suspicious.


They are teammates...

Ofcourse TB is gonna react like that after seeing people are getting angry. Don't know if TB knew, but I can't see how Alicia didn't know. Either way I am gonna root for Jim.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#822
On August 09 2013 10:23 blobrus wrote:
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On August 09 2013 10:20 Heavenlee wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:18 blobrus wrote:
Someone explain to me what happened? I've been watching TI3, just saw something about Crank on reddit.


You realize you could've just read the last couple pages or clicked on the reddit thread, right? wtf?

The reddit thread says "Crank what?" "???????????". Oh and none of the posts actually give a description of what happened. Thanks for the helpful advice man.


Someone can correct me as I didn't pay that much attention, but..

Crank vs. Alicia, game one Crank does weird gateway push. He eventually gets fend off after killing a few probes, no big lead for anyone, but Crank gg's.

Game two, Crank does the same push but this time gets a lot of probes and has a very big lead, but instead gg's again and Alicia goes 2-0.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:30:49
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#823
On August 09 2013 10:28 geokilla wrote:
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On August 09 2013 10:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened

Well as the coach, Crank had all the rights to want Alicia to play Jim and advance and not him. Players first after all. He did show a game, and there is no evidence that Alicia knew what Crank was going to do.

Then he should have forfeited as TT1 said. Throwing a game is just bullshit.
I doubt that Alicia was in it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#824
omg offensive handshake from Jim
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8251 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#825
CHINESE!!!!!!!!!! PLAYERS!!!!!!!!! FTW!!!!!!!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#826
Good riddance
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#827
So Alicia just lost 0-6 in PvP. Good job.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#828
Jiiiiiim
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#829
GG JIM JIM!
jjakji fan
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#830
On August 09 2013 10:27 The_Templar wrote:
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On August 09 2013 10:24 The_Templar wrote:
Final Match
(P)Alicia vs (P)Jim
0-1

Map: Newkirk Precinct

Alicia spawns in the bottom right.
Jim spawns in the bottom left.

1:00
Both players opening standard.

2:00
Jim's cybernetics core is slightly behind Alicia's.

3:00
Alicia is getting a much faster mothership core.
Both players getting a stalker

4:00
Alicia getting a twilight council.
Jim expanding.

5:00
Alicia getting Dark shrine.
Jim getting a robotics facility.

6:00 (P)Alicia 32 (P)Jim 35
Jim getting an immortal instead of an observer.
Jim sees the DT tech.

7:00 (P)Alicia 43 (P)Jim 51
Jim starts an observer immediately but a DT is already in Jim's natural.
Alicia expanding.
2 sentries fending off a mothership core.
Alicia getting a robotics facility.

8:00 (P)Alicia 50 (P)Jim 60
Another DT in Jim's natural dies.
Jim scouting everything with hallucinated phoenixes.
Jim getting colossus tech.

9:00 (P)Alicia 60 (P)Jim 69
Alicia getting charge.
Jim getting a second robotics facility and extended thermal lance.

10:00 (P)Alicia 68 (P)Jim 80
Alicia getting charge.
Both players have 47 workers.
Alicia getting a stargate.

11:00 (P)Alicia 78 (P)Jim 92
Alicia getting every single tech path.
Jim sees a stargate, a Templar archives, and everything else in Alicia's main base.

12:00 (P)Alicia 90 (P)Jim 105
Jim with 3 colossi.
Jim halted probe production.
Jim getting 2 more gateways.
Jim pushing.

13:00 (P)Alicia 104 (P)Jim 121
Alicia warping in a DT and a zealot near Jim's base with a warp prism.
Jim pushing the natural of Alicia.

14:00 (P)Alicia 110 (P)Jim 120
Colossi killing a lot of ground forces.
Jim backs off.
Jim cleans up the DT in his main.

15:00 (P)Alicia 102 (P)Jim 63
Jim pushes a second time with lots of stalkers.
Jim easily crushes the army of Alicia.
Alicia GG's!
Jim 2-0.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#831
JIM!!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 09 2013 01:31 GMT
#832
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
30%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
 
30%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
 
30%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
10%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6)
 
67%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
11%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
11%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
11%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
August 09 2013 01:31 GMT
#833
Bitter looks ridiculous.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8251 Posts
August 09 2013 01:31 GMT
#834
On August 09 2013 10:30 Ventris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:28 geokilla wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened

Well as the coach, Crank had all the rights to want Alicia to play Jim and advance and not him. Players first after all. He did show a game, and there is no evidence that Alicia knew what Crank was going to do.

Then he should have forfeited as TT1 said. Throwing a game is just bullshit.
I doubt that Alicia was in it.

I doubt you can forfeit like that. Maybe if he broke his keyboard then it will work.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
August 09 2013 01:31 GMT
#835
On August 09 2013 10:28 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened

Well as the coach, Crank had all the rights to want Alicia to play Jim and advance and not him. Players first after all. He did show a game, and there is no evidence that Alicia knew what Crank was going to do.

As a participant in this tournament there is no distinction between coach and player as far as the rules go. He may have the right to forfeit, I don't know the rules to WCS NA, but he certainly does not have the right to throw games. I would say that a 1 season ban for Crank would not be out of the place for this action. Obviously with no reason to think that Alicia was in on it he shouldn't be punished.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
August 09 2013 01:31 GMT
#836
I always thought Jim was the best Chinese name.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 09 2013 01:31 GMT
#837
On August 09 2013 10:30 Ventris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:28 geokilla wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened

Well as the coach, Crank had all the rights to want Alicia to play Jim and advance and not him. Players first after all. He did show a game, and there is no evidence that Alicia knew what Crank was going to do.

Then he should have forfeited as TT1 said. Throwing a game is just bullshit.
I doubt that Alicia was in it.


Forfeiting a game is still match-fixing, doesnt matter if its in goodwill, its still affecting the bracket
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 09 2013 01:31 GMT
#838
Terry looking baller! Bitter.. oh dear.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
August 09 2013 01:31 GMT
#839
O damn...Crank is obviously a better PvPer than Alicia.
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
August 09 2013 01:32 GMT
#840
collusion is stupid and everyone involved should be ashamed
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