EPT[WCS AM] RO16 Group D Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 51
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KoDo
United States683 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote: I guess one of BW's bonjwas wasn't a "true pro" either. Also, I'm not saying that Fantasy threw, but there's no evidence that he didn't throw either (and it's not like that series was anything but mediocre, so I don't know what you mean by "fan-service"). Yes, of course Savior matchfixing wasn't remotely professional. Fantasy's game you can't tell, and that is important (you've got Bush logic btw, there's no evidence they don't have WMD's!). The appearance of competition is far better than what Crank did. Also game 2 featured a lot of harass/positional nukes which definitely comes under fan service. Also a 'true pro' does the job they are paid to do. Compete. Crank clearly didn't give a shit about the fans or his sponsor and you call me stupid for saying he's not a true pro... His statement just convinces me how bogus he is. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On August 10 2013 09:30 Scarecrow wrote: Yes, of course Savior matchfixing wasn't remotely professional. Fantasy's game you can't tell, and that is important (you've got Bush logic btw, there's no evidence they don't have WMD's!). The appearance of competition is far better than what Crank did. Also game 2 featured a lot of harass/positional nukes which definitely comes under fan service. Also a 'true pro' does the job they are paid to do. Compete. Crank clearly didn't give a shit about the fans or his sponsor and you call me stupid for saying he's not a true pro... His statement just convinces me how bogus he is. All you're doing is arbitrarily bestowing a positive-sounding title upon players on the basis of a multitude of assumptions while acting like you actually know what happened in reality, for both the Crank vs. Alicia and the Fantasy vs. Rain cases. The fact is we don't know what truly happened in either case, but you're acting like you do, and I find your level of sureness to be quite silly. Your "Bush logic" accusation also doesn't make any sense. You're basically saying that "Bush logic" is "guilty until proven innocent". I am obviously not doing that, and I even explicitly assume innocence in my previous post. What I'm doing is saying that despite me presuming innocence, there still definitely exists a lack of certainty. I also find it strange that you're implying that the mere appearance of competition is enough to establish integrity. So, are you claiming that if two players are just really good dressing up a throw as a close, competitive game, then they have integrity (if you are, I find that strange)? A very clear example of the assumptions that you're making is that you say that a true pro competes, and you also say that even though we can't tell with Fantasy vs. Rain, there's the appearance of competition. However, competing != appearing to compete, and also, not appearing to compete != not competing, yet you're quick to label Fantasy and Rain as "true pros" and Alicia and Crank as not, which I find pretty unfair. Lastly, I don't know what you define as "fanservice", but it could even be argued that fanservice inherently goes against the spirit of competition, because it implies that the inspiration for a certain tactic being used is at least partly to entertain the spectators, rather than solely because it's the best option that will ensure victory. | ||
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Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
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