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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 09 2013 01:22 GMT
#801
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Better call Artosis.
Moderator
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 09 2013 01:23 GMT
#802
On August 09 2013 10:20 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:18 blobrus wrote:
Someone explain to me what happened? I've been watching TI3, just saw something about Crank on reddit.


You realize you could've just read the last couple pages or clicked on the reddit thread, right? wtf?

The reddit thread says "Crank what?" "???????????". Oh and none of the posts actually give a description of what happened. Thanks for the helpful advice man.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 09 2013 01:23 GMT
#803
On August 09 2013 10:20 Ace Frehley wrote:
Crank and Alicia, after the SlayersGate, can't stay out of trouble


Man, makes me wonder what the dirt Jessica had on Alicia that she claimed would have ended his career...

If Crank did intentionally lose and Alicia had no idea about it, I'd be pretty pissed if I were Alicia.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 09 2013 01:23 GMT
#804
Did anyone see Crank's face when he lost to Jim? He looked so dejected and tilted. Maybe I need to rewatch it, but we've all seen Idra gg when ahead many times and never considered it match-fixing.
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
August 09 2013 01:23 GMT
#805
Come on Jim bring justice to America ! lol
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#806
Final Match
(P)Alicia vs (P)Jim
0-1

Map: Newkirk Precinct

Alicia spawns in the bottom right.
Jim spawns in the bottom left.

1:00
Both players opening standard.

2:00
Jim's cybernetics core is slightly behind Alicia's.

3:00
Alicia is getting a much faster mothership core.
Both players getting a stalker

4:00
Alicia getting a twilight council.
Jim expanding.

5:00
Alicia getting Dark shrine.
Jim getting a robotics facility.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#807
Jim not chronoing? D:
jjakji fan
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:24:25
August 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#808
On August 09 2013 10:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Better call Artosis.


Artosis is on twitter... Being angry like the rest of us:

Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 22m
"I'm angry. Ridiculous."
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#809
On August 09 2013 10:23 plogamer wrote:
Did anyone see Crank's face when he lost to Jim? He looked so dejected and tilted. Maybe I need to rewatch it, but we've all seen Idra gg when ahead many times and never considered it match-fixing.


he didnt gg to his own teammate.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#810
On August 09 2013 10:22 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Don't do that again. Alicia is a cheating asshole!

You can't blame Alicia you have no idea if he had a part in this.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
August 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#811
On August 09 2013 10:23 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:20 Heavenlee wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:18 blobrus wrote:
Someone explain to me what happened? I've been watching TI3, just saw something about Crank on reddit.


You realize you could've just read the last couple pages or clicked on the reddit thread, right? wtf?

The reddit thread says "Crank what?" "???????????". Oh and none of the posts actually give a description of what happened. Thanks for the helpful advice man.


Second reply to second post:

That was the most obvious match fixing in WCS... Same build, still win the game due to great micro, act like rush failed and ggs.

I refuse to believe Crank is such a bad player that he doesn't recognize he's far ahead of the opponent in those situations. He stuck around for way longer vs Jim when he was clearly dead...



Or, you know, read the lay report...or the pages of people going "wtf crank?" and discussing the event.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
August 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#812
On August 09 2013 10:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Better call Artosis.

he's clearly not making any tweets because he wants Jim to win.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
August 09 2013 01:25 GMT
#813
On August 09 2013 10:23 plogamer wrote:
Did anyone see Crank's face when he lost to Jim? He looked so dejected and tilted. Maybe I need to rewatch it, but we've all seen Idra gg when ahead many times and never considered it match-fixing.

But two times in a row, and in the second game there was no justification for thinking he had lost the game, Idra always had some justification even if it was sometimes a bit thin. Combine that with the fact that Crank is not known to leave games early and you can be pretty damn sure that Crank was not looking to win vs Alicia.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 09 2013 01:26 GMT
#814
On August 09 2013 10:24 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:22 Mozdk wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Don't do that again. Alicia is a cheating asshole!

You can't blame Alicia you have no idea if he had a part in this.


Yeah and holocaust never happened, Elvis is still alive and no one has ever been to the Moon.

Are you jooking or are you really that naive?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 09 2013 01:27 GMT
#815
On August 09 2013 10:24 The_Templar wrote:
Final Match
(P)Alicia vs (P)Jim
0-1

Map: Newkirk Precinct

Alicia spawns in the bottom right.
Jim spawns in the bottom left.

1:00
Both players opening standard.

2:00
Jim's cybernetics core is slightly behind Alicia's.

3:00
Alicia is getting a much faster mothership core.
Both players getting a stalker

4:00
Alicia getting a twilight council.
Jim expanding.

5:00
Alicia getting Dark shrine.
Jim getting a robotics facility.

6:00 (P)Alicia 32 (P)Jim 35
Jim getting an immortal instead of an observer.
Jim sees the DT tech.

7:00 (P)Alicia 43 (P)Jim 51
Jim starts an observer immediately but a DT is already in Jim's natural.
Alicia expanding.
2 sentries fending off a mothership core.
Alicia getting a robotics facility.

8:00 (P)Alicia 50 (P)Jim 60
Another DT in Jim's natural dies.
Jim scouting everything with hallucinated phoenixes.
Jim getting colossus tech.

9:00 (P)Alicia 60 (P)Jim 69
Alicia getting charge.
Jim getting a second robotics facility and extended thermal lance.

10:00 (P)Alicia 68 (P)Jim 80
Alicia getting charge.
Both players have 47 workers.
Alicia getting a stargate.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 09 2013 01:27 GMT
#816
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1104 Posts
August 09 2013 01:27 GMT
#817
On August 09 2013 10:26 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:24 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:22 Mozdk wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Don't do that again. Alicia is a cheating asshole!

You can't blame Alicia you have no idea if he had a part in this.


Yeah and holocaust never happened, Elvis is still alive and no one has ever been to the Moon.

Are you jooking or are you really that naive?



You can't be serious can you?
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
August 09 2013 01:28 GMT
#818
On August 09 2013 10:26 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:24 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:22 Mozdk wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:21 c0ldfusion wrote:
I bet on Alicia over Jim... hmm


Don't do that again. Alicia is a cheating asshole!

You can't blame Alicia you have no idea if he had a part in this.


Yeah and holocaust never happened, Elvis is still alive and no one has ever been to the Moon.

Are you jooking or are you really that naive?

What makes you think Alicia was in on it? They could have arranged blind counters if that was the case. Based on Twitter TB certainly doesn't approve so I doubt it was a pre-planned strategy. Probably just a stupid decision from Crank. Alicia didn't do anything suspicious.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
August 09 2013 01:28 GMT
#819
Jim macro seems to be spot on.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
August 09 2013 01:28 GMT
#820
On August 09 2013 10:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I didn't see the games but I feel bad for TB and Genna if they really just gave up because they had to pay for Crank and Alicia to fly here and I know there was some trouble making sure that happened

Well as the coach, Crank had all the rights to want Alicia to play Jim and advance and not him. Players first after all. He did show a game, and there is no evidence that Alicia knew what Crank was going to do.
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