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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
January 20 2006 23:32 GMT
#21
ya spanish is very easy to learn. Im learning portuguese and its a pain in the arse. If you ever hear what the portuguese do to there s, you will want to punch syz in the face!
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Vo-
Profile Joined November 2004
United States435 Posts
January 20 2006 23:35 GMT
#22
http://www.studyspanish.com/

The only T.V. I watch is the spanish channel. I know it doesn't sound like it would help but it really does. Also, I'm in spanish 3.
Bobo_
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States192 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-20 23:50:46
January 20 2006 23:50 GMT
#23
IMO, the only way to learn a language faster is by living that country for quite a bit of time...but of course thats not possible in your case o.O.

Spanish is very easy. The thing I see a lot of my friends struggle with is that they can't roll their R's...make sure you can do that. Spanish is very similar to Portugese...however Portugese is more 'advanced' so when you speak to a Portugese speaking person they will understand you but if they talk Portugese it will sound so complicated T_T.

Just hang out with people that speak Spanish. Right now, people in my clan speak French so im learning French myself . glhf
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-21 00:12:59
January 21 2006 00:12 GMT
#24
chat on a IRC spanish channel. I learned a few phrase of dutch when I hanged around in a dutch channel. The more you use it, the easier it become to remember.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
January 21 2006 00:19 GMT
#25
My tips for learning Spanish.

1. Have sex with a Spanish/Mexican chick...at least that way you learn a few swear words.

2. Actually open a book.

3. Get some Spanish guy to teach you Spanish....with the threat of him raping you in the ass if you don't learn.

4. Watch an entire series of 'Digimon' in Spanish.

5. Download Spanish subtitles for your favourite movies, 'You Got Served', 'Mortal Kombat: Annihilation' etc.

6. Pay money to learn it from a professional.

The fucking list goes on.
JudasT
Profile Joined January 2003
Spain2226 Posts
January 21 2006 02:40 GMT
#26
On January 21 2006 08:32 nitram wrote:
ya spanish is very easy to learn. Im learning portuguese and its a pain in the arse. If you ever hear what the portuguese do to there s, you will want to punch syz in the face!


I think that spanish, italian, portuguese, french, and other latin languages have the same level of difficulty. I'm spanish and I've visited Portugal several times and I can understand 80% of one conversation if the guy talk slowly, same happen with italian and french. French is a bit different but as I'm catalan, there are many common words and it helps a lot.
Taking the time to have simple fun everyday is a must for a happy life.
TigG
Profile Joined December 2003
Spain369 Posts
January 21 2006 02:59 GMT
#27
On January 20 2006 20:29 Luhh wrote:
Spanish, lesson 1:

Hop on a scooter, wear only shorts and a tshirt and sandals, drive really irresponsibly, don't wear a helmet (only headgear allowed are sunglasses) and honk at any girl showing a bit of legs or bosom. These are basics and you must understand all this to proceed to lesson 2.


Lol, I guess you've been at the beach in Spain :-) Or in Andalucia, where they are, lets say, different.

Anyway, it's not like that in the cities inside.
My english sucks, so feel free to teach me (wrong grammar, spelling errors, wrong way to express something...)
CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
January 21 2006 03:15 GMT
#28
i recommend finding a chatroom full of spanish people

then speak to them
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
January 21 2006 03:28 GMT
#29
watch spanish movies whit subtitles in english
:)
Romanticide
Profile Joined July 2005
United States87 Posts
January 21 2006 03:33 GMT
#30
stop taking spanish, its a stupid language! U really want an easy language: take German. after all english is a germanic language, and some say english is only a dialect of german!!!!!!!!!
That is enough, John Mayer
Xd2
Profile Joined January 2006
Peru77 Posts
January 21 2006 05:19 GMT
#31
On January 21 2006 12:33 Romanticide wrote:
stop taking spanish, its a stupid language! U really want an easy language: take German. after all english is a germanic language, and some say english is only a dialect of german!!!!!!!!!


stfu your just pissed cause u dont know spanish ;/,, i hope your being sarcastic by the german comment tho
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
January 21 2006 05:40 GMT
#32
spanish > you
Teamliquidian townie
ubergamer15
Profile Joined January 2005
United States645 Posts
January 21 2006 05:51 GMT
#33
On January 21 2006 14:19 Xd2 wrote:
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On January 21 2006 12:33 Romanticide wrote:
stop taking spanish, its a stupid language! U really want an easy language: take German. after all english is a germanic language, and some say english is only a dialect of german!!!!!!!!!


stfu your just pissed cause u dont know spanish ;/,, i hope your being sarcastic by the german comment tho

What? He's right about English being Germanic, if that's what you're asking, but I think he's just being random...
An optimist sees the glass half-full. A pessimist sees the glass half-empty. An engineer sees a waste of half a glass.
Mascherano
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Argentina1726 Posts
January 21 2006 05:53 GMT
#34
get a native spanish speaker to help you out
o podrias ir a mexico/españa/latino america y estudiar por un tiempo por un precio muy barato.
Bisu
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
January 21 2006 06:45 GMT
#35
On January 21 2006 14:51 ubergamer15 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2006 14:19 Xd2 wrote:
On January 21 2006 12:33 Romanticide wrote:
stop taking spanish, its a stupid language! U really want an easy language: take German. after all english is a germanic language, and some say english is only a dialect of german!!!!!!!!!


stfu your just pissed cause u dont know spanish ;/,, i hope your being sarcastic by the german comment tho

What? He's right about English being Germanic, if that's what you're asking, but I think he's just being random...

English may be a germanic language but it is very different from german. Latin languages are alot closer/similar to each other.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-21 08:47:44
January 21 2006 08:33 GMT
#36
Alrighty, the topic starter didn't PM me, but instead some other people did, (threatened me even -_-;.) so I'll post here how I used to boost vocabulary, and how I find it being rather effective.

First of all you ned a list of words you'd like to learn. That list should be a rather long one, (ca ~2000-4000 words even) which basically should depict the basic vocabulary with which you'd feel comfortable within the boundaries of your interests (make that list of words contain all kinds of words you deem important). If you lack the very basic starter amount of words from the desired language, you're better off upping it up first, while also getting some knowledge of the grammar and so on from a book. I believe this method will only really work after one has a command of around ~500 basic words at least, and has good understanding of the sounds/pronounciation of those words as well.

So now then, you need a list, right? Like FunKIE suggested, that list can be obtained from a dictionary, but also from the internet, from language books (in a pretty organized form too) etc... Like for example in case of Japanese, there are wordlists for different levels of language proficiency readily available on the net (from ~700 to ~10k wordlists, JLPT), I'm not sure how this is with other languages, but with Japanese this makes it that much easier.

So now that you have your list of interesting/useful/necessary words you have to decide a pace to learn them. This means that you decide how many you learn a day. I was usually doing 54 words/day ratio and that required ca. 1hr of work daily.

So how's it done; First you chop up your big wordlist into daily doses (54 in my case, but it can be around 30-60 depending on the difficulty of the words, depending mostly on how different the language is from some other one already known by the user, or just how much work one would like to spend on it). When you have your lists chopped up you do the following: you will be doing 2 of those lists daily, each of those lists for 8 days long, and inbetween each of those lists you will have a 1 day resting period. Sounds complicated, so let me explain. I will now write down what you will be doing every day, so you just follow the pattern:

01. Day: Learn list 1 (Foreign -> Native)
02. Day: Rest ~_~;;
03. Day: Learn list 2 (Foreign -> Native)
04. Day: Learn list 1 (Native -> Foreign)
05. Day: Learn list 3 (Foreign -> Native)
06. Day: Learn list 2 (Native -> Foreign) & list 1 (Foreign -> Native again)
07. Day: Learn list 4 (Foreign -> Native)
08. Day: Learn list 3 (Native -> Foreign) & list 2 (Foreign -> Native again)
09. Day: Learn list 5 (Foreign -> Native) & list 1 (Native -> Foreign again)
10. Day: Learn list 4 (Native -> Foreign) & list 3 (Foreign -> Native again)
11. Day: Learn list 6 (Foreign -> Native) & list 2 (Native -> Foreign again)
12. Day: etc...

And from this you can see the pattern: every odd day you start a new list of unknown words, and repeat some previously learned words (thus finishing off a list and beginning a new one), and every even day you repeat 2 other lists. In other words, when a list of words is not yet learnt it is *Level 1*, when you already learned the words from foreign to native that list is *Level 2*, when you learned it from foreign to native, then native to foreign that is *Level 3*, and when you learned it from foreign to native, then native to foreign, then revised the list again from foreign to native that is *Level 4*. Once you finish off a *Level 4* list, by revising it (native to foreign again) it's a finished list, and you can consider the words on that list learned. To rephrase the order of learning in other words: each odd day you learn a *Level 1* & *Level 4* list and every even day you learn a *Level 2* and *Level 3* list. If you have 2 lists of the same level, you obviously choose the one older (from 3 days ago, and not from yesterday).

Well, now a few words about the learning process itself. When you study the words on the list, don't try to memorize them perfectly, it's enough if you just remember them once. For example, you have a list of 40 words, and you start reading them, el ojo means this, perder means that, etc etc... Then you start reading the list anew, and the one words you've remembered you check once (draw a minus there or something), leave the ones you couldn't remember unchecked, and see what they meant, then move along, repeat... When you have all the words checked, grats, that list went up a level. First you put minuses to the left side of your words in foreign (lists should look like this: Foreign word ______ lots of space______ Word in native tongue), then minuses to the left of the words in native, then when you relearn the lists you make pluses out of minuses first on the foreign words side, then on the native words side.

Nya, this basically sums it up, I tried to make it as clear as posible, but I know it's complicated anyway. -_-;; Also, it's very important to follow this method every day, try to give it a 30-45 mins daily and it will definitely powerhouse your vocabulary *very quickly*. When having a 50 words/list ratio that means it's 25 new words daily, which makes it 25*30=750 words a month. Which is good ^^. But I repeat again, make it continuously, don't do 1-2 day breaks or it messes up the logic behind it. Which is that you should not only put the words into your short-term memory bank, but also be able to remember them after some time as well... Ideally by the time you revise a *Level 4* list you should be able to know all the words in it already, but if not, you -should- after you finish that list.

Humph, hope that whoever tries it (and does it properly) will benefit from it the same way it worked for me...

-Mynock
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10545 Posts
January 21 2006 08:39 GMT
#37
On January 21 2006 06:55 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
Spanish is very EASY to learn. I started learning it and its coming along very good. I do not attend classes in university or anything. Just when I play poker I turn on my mp3 lessons. I have 240 lessons of 40 minutes. They explain grammar and learn you sentences along with words. I also have a small guide that has to be used with the audio tapes every now and then. If you want to have it add me on msn, pm me for that.

What I find very useful is having ToT)Manza( and Bishop aka k3fka on my msn;) Oh and mazor helped out once;D


spanish from Spain is fucking awful... to the point where i can barely understand what they are saying, seriously.
Im back, in pog form!
sTrAtO
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Mexico1084 Posts
January 21 2006 09:23 GMT
#38
i really dont have a good website to help you out, i can share with you some of the basics cause im not a teacher =S, spanish is twice difficult to learn than english... =/
http://strato.liquidpoker.net/
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
January 21 2006 09:23 GMT
#39
A good way to practice would be to pm a teamliquid member and ask if he could teach you or just talk to you every so often on msn. Dont be 1 dimmensional, there are many ways of learninmg, you could even spend some time on the spanish starcraft website. (yes that is a run-on sentence)
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10545 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-21 10:18:02
January 21 2006 10:17 GMT
#40
I could teach you bitch o_o

i bet im far more elocuent than those morons -:D
Im back, in pog form!
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