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sith
United States2474 Posts
I was wondering if you have any good websites with a good beginning vocabulary or any tips on how to remember vocabulary and get better a speaking it. I am having alot of trouble speaking it without thinking over every single word and translating it back and forth then making sure that is ok.  So feel free to share any tip/tricks that helped u learn a language (maybe not spanish, some tips apply generally) Thanks in advance -Sith | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
On January 20 2006 19:26 sith wrote: Hola! Um, i never thought it would come to this, but i'm asking TL.net's help at learning Spanish. You see my Spanish teacher sucks pretty bad (pretty much tells us nothing about it...just has us copy down random vocab). I was wondering if you have any good websites with a good beginning vocabulary or any tips on how to remember vocabulary and get better a speaking it. I am having alot of trouble speaking it without thinking over every single word and translating it back and forth then making sure that is ok. So feel free to share any tip/tricks that helped u learn a language (maybe not spanish, some tips apply generally) Thanks in advance -Sith Yeah, I had the same problem. Here's how to solve it: Say la mano, el mapa ten times fast! You know spanish! | ||
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artofmagic
United States1951 Posts
On January 20 2006 19:45 -_- wrote: ...Yeah, I had the same problem. Here's how to solve it: Say la mano, el mapa ten times fast! You know spanish! | ||
Mynock
4492 Posts
On January 20 2006 19:26 sith wrote: Hola! Um, i never thought it would come to this, but i'm asking TL.net's help at learning Spanish. You see my Spanish teacher sucks pretty bad (pretty much tells us nothing about it...just has us copy down random vocab). I was wondering if you have any good websites with a good beginning vocabulary or any tips on how to remember vocabulary and get better a speaking it. I am having alot of trouble speaking it without thinking over every single word and translating it back and forth then making sure that is ok. So feel free to share any tip/tricks that helped u learn a language (maybe not spanish, some tips apply generally) Thanks in advance -Sith Learning random vocabulary is a pretty good way to get urself going in a language however... I have a (IMHO) very good method to learn vocab, however I developed it for myself, and have yet to see how it' work for other people, but... Anyway, it's way too long and complicated for me to explain it right now, but if you think so, PM to remind me of it and I will post it back to you tomorrow (after I wake up)... -Mynock | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
On January 20 2006 19:51 artofmagic wrote: ... Damn! Thanks! I forget you also have to say el dia!!! | ||
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HeavenS
Colombia2259 Posts
El español se trata mucho de recordarse palabras que suenan igual pero que tienen diferente sentido. Cre que debes de poner mas atencion en clase. | ||
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~AreS]
Canada2170 Posts
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paper
13196 Posts
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IceEight
United States24 Posts
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Darki[Per]
Peru689 Posts
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
Hop on a scooter, wear only shorts and a tshirt and sandals, drive really irresponsibly, don't wear a helmet (only headgear allowed are sunglasses) and honk at any girl showing a bit of legs or bosom. These are basics and you must understand all this to proceed to lesson 2. | ||
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[...]Chraej
46 Posts
the verbs and their tenses and knowing how to conjugate them is clutch. ... on a side note does anyone have any tips for learning korean? i hear its one of the easiest languages to learn and since klogon banned me i havnt had enough days to post a seperate thread, info would make me smile | ||
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whatever
Mexico693 Posts
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ffswowsucks
Greece2297 Posts
 preferably a hot spanish girl!! thats it! | ||
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JoopeyDoop
United States150 Posts
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
Deberias primero, buscarte un diccionario, y luego tratar de buscar algunas paginas web que te ayuden y agilizen tu aprendizaje. Trata de buscar cosas que te interesen y que sean en español, de seguro hay bastantes sitios web relacionados con Juegos donde puedes leer sobre algo que te gusta en un idioma diferente =p. Havefun~ | ||
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mitsy
United States1792 Posts
all the construction workers, food workers, janitorial staff here only speak spanish and they are short :/ they are really nice though. and so hard working. i suggest you just read some stuff in spanish and look them up as you go along. figure out which tense the verb is, how it's conjugated, etc. just read a few pages like that a day. learn proper pronounciation and that's pretty much it. after doing that for a year you can start watching spanish t.v. viva gorditas! | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
On January 20 2006 20:29 Luhh wrote: Spanish, lesson 1: Hop on a scooter, wear only shorts and a tshirt and sandals, drive really irresponsibly, don't wear a helmet (only headgear allowed are sunglasses) and honk at any girl showing a bit of legs or bosom. These are basics and you must understand all this to proceed to lesson 2. I aced lesson one, what's next? | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
What I find very useful is having ToT)Manza( and Bishop aka k3fka on my msn;) Oh and mazor helped out once;D | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
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Vo-
United States435 Posts
The only T.V. I watch is the spanish channel. I know it doesn't sound like it would help but it really does. Also, I'm in spanish 3. | ||
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Bobo_
United States192 Posts
Spanish is very easy. The thing I see a lot of my friends struggle with is that they can't roll their R's...make sure you can do that. Spanish is very similar to Portugese...however Portugese is more 'advanced' so when you speak to a Portugese speaking person they will understand you but if they talk Portugese it will sound so complicated T_T. Just hang out with people that speak Spanish. Right now, people in my clan speak French so im learning French myself  . glhf | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
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Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
1. Have sex with a Spanish/Mexican chick...at least that way you learn a few swear words. 2. Actually open a book. 3. Get some Spanish guy to teach you Spanish....with the threat of him raping you in the ass if you don't learn. 4. Watch an entire series of 'Digimon' in Spanish. 5. Download Spanish subtitles for your favourite movies, 'You Got Served', 'Mortal Kombat: Annihilation' etc. 6. Pay money to learn it from a professional. The fucking list goes on. | ||
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JudasT
Spain2226 Posts
On January 21 2006 08:32 nitram wrote: ya spanish is very easy to learn. Im learning portuguese and its a pain in the arse. If you ever hear what the portuguese do to there s, you will want to punch syz in the face! I think that spanish, italian, portuguese, french, and other latin languages have the same level of difficulty. I'm spanish and I've visited Portugal several times and I can understand 80% of one conversation if the guy talk slowly, same happen with italian and french. French is a bit different but as I'm catalan, there are many common words and it helps a lot. | ||
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TigG
Spain369 Posts
On January 20 2006 20:29 Luhh wrote: Spanish, lesson 1: Hop on a scooter, wear only shorts and a tshirt and sandals, drive really irresponsibly, don't wear a helmet (only headgear allowed are sunglasses) and honk at any girl showing a bit of legs or bosom. These are basics and you must understand all this to proceed to lesson 2. Lol, I guess you've been at the beach in Spain :-) Or in Andalucia, where they are, lets say, different. Anyway, it's not like that in the cities inside. | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
then speak to them | ||
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Unforgiven_ve
Venezuela1232 Posts
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Romanticide
United States87 Posts
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Xd2
Peru77 Posts
On January 21 2006 12:33 Romanticide wrote: stop taking spanish, its a stupid language! U really want an easy language: take German. after all english is a germanic language, and some say english is only a dialect of german!!!!!!!!! stfu your just pissed cause u dont know spanish ;/,, i hope your being sarcastic by the german comment tho | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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ubergamer15
United States645 Posts
On January 21 2006 14:19 Xd2 wrote: stfu your just pissed cause u dont know spanish ;/,, i hope your being sarcastic by the german comment tho What? He's right about English being Germanic, if that's what you're asking, but I think he's just being random... | ||
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Mascherano
Argentina1726 Posts
o podrias ir a mexico/españa/latino america y estudiar por un tiempo por un precio muy barato. | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
On January 21 2006 14:51 ubergamer15 wrote: What? He's right about English being Germanic, if that's what you're asking, but I think he's just being random... English may be a germanic language but it is very different from german. Latin languages are alot closer/similar to each other. | ||
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Mynock
4492 Posts
First of all you ned a list of words you'd like to learn. That list should be a rather long one, (ca ~2000-4000 words even) which basically should depict the basic vocabulary with which you'd feel comfortable within the boundaries of your interests (make that list of words contain all kinds of words you deem important). If you lack the very basic starter amount of words from the desired language, you're better off upping it up first, while also getting some knowledge of the grammar and so on from a book. I believe this method will only really work after one has a command of around ~500 basic words at least, and has good understanding of the sounds/pronounciation of those words as well. So now then, you need a list, right? Like FunKIE suggested, that list can be obtained from a dictionary, but also from the internet, from language books (in a pretty organized form too) etc... Like for example in case of Japanese, there are wordlists for different levels of language proficiency readily available on the net (from ~700 to ~10k wordlists, JLPT), I'm not sure how this is with other languages, but with Japanese this makes it that much easier. So now that you have your list of interesting/useful/necessary words you have to decide a pace to learn them. This means that you decide how many you learn a day. I was usually doing 54 words/day ratio and that required ca. 1hr of work daily. So how's it done; First you chop up your big wordlist into daily doses (54 in my case, but it can be around 30-60 depending on the difficulty of the words, depending mostly on how different the language is from some other one already known by the user, or just how much work one would like to spend on it). When you have your lists chopped up you do the following: you will be doing 2 of those lists daily, each of those lists for 8 days long, and inbetween each of those lists you will have a 1 day resting period. Sounds complicated, so let me explain. I will now write down what you will be doing every day, so you just follow the pattern: 01. Day: Learn list 1 (Foreign -> Native) 02. Day: Rest ~_~;; 03. Day: Learn list 2 (Foreign -> Native) 04. Day: Learn list 1 (Native -> Foreign) 05. Day: Learn list 3 (Foreign -> Native) 06. Day: Learn list 2 (Native -> Foreign) & list 1 (Foreign -> Native again) 07. Day: Learn list 4 (Foreign -> Native) 08. Day: Learn list 3 (Native -> Foreign) & list 2 (Foreign -> Native again) 09. Day: Learn list 5 (Foreign -> Native) & list 1 (Native -> Foreign again) 10. Day: Learn list 4 (Native -> Foreign) & list 3 (Foreign -> Native again) 11. Day: Learn list 6 (Foreign -> Native) & list 2 (Native -> Foreign again) 12. Day: etc... And from this you can see the pattern: every odd day you start a new list of unknown words, and repeat some previously learned words (thus finishing off a list and beginning a new one), and every even day you repeat 2 other lists. In other words, when a list of words is not yet learnt it is *Level 1*, when you already learned the words from foreign to native that list is *Level 2*, when you learned it from foreign to native, then native to foreign that is *Level 3*, and when you learned it from foreign to native, then native to foreign, then revised the list again from foreign to native that is *Level 4*. Once you finish off a *Level 4* list, by revising it (native to foreign again) it's a finished list, and you can consider the words on that list learned. To rephrase the order of learning in other words: each odd day you learn a *Level 1* & *Level 4* list and every even day you learn a *Level 2* and *Level 3* list. If you have 2 lists of the same level, you obviously choose the one older (from 3 days ago, and not from yesterday). Well, now a few words about the learning process itself. When you study the words on the list, don't try to memorize them perfectly, it's enough if you just remember them once. For example, you have a list of 40 words, and you start reading them, el ojo means this, perder means that, etc etc... Then you start reading the list anew, and the one words you've remembered you check once (draw a minus there or something), leave the ones you couldn't remember unchecked, and see what they meant, then move along, repeat... When you have all the words checked, grats, that list went up a level. First you put minuses to the left side of your words in foreign (lists should look like this: Foreign word ______ lots of space______ Word in native tongue), then minuses to the left of the words in native, then when you relearn the lists you make pluses out of minuses first on the foreign words side, then on the native words side. Nya, this basically sums it up, I tried to make it as clear as posible, but I know it's complicated anyway. -_-;; Also, it's very important to follow this method every day, try to give it a 30-45 mins daily and it will definitely powerhouse your vocabulary *very quickly*. When having a 50 words/list ratio that means it's 25 new words daily, which makes it 25*30=750 words a month. Which is good ^^. But I repeat again, make it continuously, don't do 1-2 day breaks or it messes up the logic behind it. Which is that you should not only put the words into your short-term memory bank, but also be able to remember them after some time as well... Ideally by the time you revise a *Level 4* list you should be able to know all the words in it already, but if not, you -should- after you finish that list. Humph, hope that whoever tries it (and does it properly) will benefit from it the same way it worked for me... -Mynock | ||
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baal
10541 Posts
On January 21 2006 06:55 {ToT}Strafe wrote: Spanish is very EASY to learn. I started learning it and its coming along very good. I do not attend classes in university or anything. Just when I play poker I turn on my mp3 lessons. I have 240 lessons of 40 minutes. They explain grammar and learn you sentences along with words. I also have a small guide that has to be used with the audio tapes every now and then. If you want to have it add me on msn, pm me for that. What I find very useful is having ToT)Manza( and Bishop aka k3fka on my msn;) Oh and mazor helped out once;D spanish from Spain is fucking awful... to the point where i can barely understand what they are saying, seriously. | ||
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sTrAtO
Mexico1084 Posts
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
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baal
10541 Posts
i bet im far more elocuent than those morons -:D | ||
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Xd2
Peru77 Posts
On January 21 2006 19:17 baal wrote: I could teach you bitch o_o i bet im far more elocuent than those morons -:D calla bastardo  | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
The best thing you can do of course (and what i did to learn japanese) is to look for a school where they only teach languages, and then try to arrrange it so that you only have to go 1 or 2 hours everyday after school. Another option is to try to look for a private teacher. Trying to learn from tapes or books or even from the internet sucks, believe me, i tried learning german that way and i didnt learn shit. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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Xd2
Peru77 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20060 Posts
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Mynock
4492 Posts
On January 21 2006 19:25 Cloud wrote: Trying to learn from tapes or books or even from the internet sucks, believe me, i tried learning german that way and i didnt learn shit. Not from my personal experience, it doesn't. I'd go as far as saying that's one of the best ways there is really. Of course you have to have a deep interest in the language to do that, but then again if you don't, why are you learning it in the first place? Learning something always depends on you and you only, no matter how good some teacher is, it's always you who has to study. And by learning solo you can have the pace you want, the way you want it. -Mynock | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
my uncle did that and he says he learned _a lot_ plus, it's cheap as hell O__O | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On January 21 2006 20:17 Mynock wrote: Not from my personal experience, it doesn't. I'd go as far as saying that's one of the best ways there is really. Of course you have to have a deep interest in the language to do that, but then again if you don't, why are you learning it in the first place? Learning something always depends on you and you only, no matter how good some teacher is, it's always you who has to study. And by learning solo you can have the pace you want, the way you want it. -Mynock Well yeah, but you learn a language to interact with other people, tapes and books and stuff wont satisfy that requirement wheareas an school or even a single teacher will. And yes, if you have a really strong will, you can learn it from books and stuff, but thats something most people lack, and you will probably get bored soon (as i did), unlike in a school enviroment, where you can talk with other people, ask them for help, study with them and w/e. | ||
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Xd2
Peru77 Posts
On January 21 2006 20:16 decafchicken wrote: Move to a spanish speaking country and i think you can speak it pretty well in 6 weeks. At least thats what my spanish teacher told me. thats completely false 3 years at least. | ||
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baal
10541 Posts
On January 21 2006 19:26 {ToT}Strafe wrote: You can teach me, I always have loads of questions and dont want to bug the same persons over and over;) pm me your msn. | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
nahh there are lots of classes like that that can teach you that well :D like you take several hours of class everyday and then youre forced to use it after class :D | ||
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SeXyDrOnE
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