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Hi everyone, MLG does it's groups by points, they've outlined how they do groups months ago before any of the events. There's no conspiracy. EG and Liquid have lots of players in the MLG Top X. Teamkills are inevitable. |
On July 03 2011 05:08 pusmoh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 23:54 Bobster wrote:On July 02 2011 23:53 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:On July 02 2011 23:00 Draconicfire wrote:
Cheering for Boxer to win so he gets a Code S spot >_> If he was to win the tournament he will not get a Code S Spot. Code S/Code A entries are for non-korean players who place 1st/2nd/3rd and potentially 4th. If Korean A places 1st and Foreigner B C D place 2nd/3rd/4th, each will get a Code A spot. That is incorrect. Everyone is eligible for the Code S spot, no matter the nationality. Only the 4 (not 3) Code A spots are reserved for non-Koreans. There's normally 3 Code A spots. The 4th Code A spot will only be given if no one of the top 3 accepts the code S spot, or if all top 3 are already in Code S. Or if the winner is a Korean, which is what the discussion was about (Boxer getting Code S)  .
If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, or not awarded at all, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player.
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Odd that Incontrol is still in it. Didn't he end outside the top 16 even in the last MLG. The tourney should be more inviting to fresh blood imo.
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One is Bomber I thought it was confirmed already.
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Man, TL is always screwed by the draws in MLG.
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On July 03 2011 07:11 Coolwhip wrote:
Odd that Incontrol is still in it. Didn't he end outside the top 16 even in the last MLG. The tourney should be more inviting to fresh blood imo.
its by points, Control secure his spot from past MLGs
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On July 03 2011 06:51 pusmoh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 06:37 Chenz wrote:On July 03 2011 06:14 Shichibukai wrote:
How come MMA isn't seeded? Not sure exactly how many points are awarded per rank, but with only 2 MLG's this year, he should only be behind Naniwa? MMA is seeded third (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings), behind Naniwa and Idra, though I have no idea what means going into Anaheim. Are koreans not allowed to enter MLG because of their seed, seeing as MMA is not seeded, but he's going as an GSL invite? Or is there something else to it? If they come on their own, they get seeded according to their MLG rank points. If they are invited, each of the invites is placed in a different pool according to GSL points (best in pool d, worst in pool a). MLG points are ignored in this case. So if MMA hadn't been invited again, but came on his own, he would've been placed top of pool C as he's #3 seed.
But why would MLG invite MMA again through the exchange program when he's already seeded? It just means we miss out on a "new" korean invite.
If he came on his own I guess he wouldn't get everything paid for by MLG though. :/
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On July 03 2011 07:34 Shichibukai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 06:51 pusmoh wrote:On July 03 2011 06:37 Chenz wrote:On July 03 2011 06:14 Shichibukai wrote:
How come MMA isn't seeded? Not sure exactly how many points are awarded per rank, but with only 2 MLG's this year, he should only be behind Naniwa? MMA is seeded third (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings), behind Naniwa and Idra, though I have no idea what means going into Anaheim. Are koreans not allowed to enter MLG because of their seed, seeing as MMA is not seeded, but he's going as an GSL invite? Or is there something else to it? If they come on their own, they get seeded according to their MLG rank points. If they are invited, each of the invites is placed in a different pool according to GSL points (best in pool d, worst in pool a). MLG points are ignored in this case. So if MMA hadn't been invited again, but came on his own, he would've been placed top of pool C as he's #3 seed. But why would MLG invite MMA again through the exchange program when he's already seeded? It just means we miss out on a "new" korean invite. If he came on his own I guess he wouldn't get everything paid for by MLG though. :/
It's more likely he wouldn't come at all without the invite, since MC, Losira, and Moon all declined to come despite being seeded. (Moon was 17th, but the pools went all the way down to 21st before filling) MLG wanted to invite him to defend his title. So think of it as getting MMA as one of the four Korean invites instead of four new Koreans rather than missing out on seeing MMA in addition to four more Koreans.
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On July 03 2011 07:34 DarkRise wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 07:11 Coolwhip wrote:
Odd that Incontrol is still in it. Didn't he end outside the top 16 even in the last MLG. The tourney should be more inviting to fresh blood imo. its by points, Control secure his spot from past MLGs
I know, but I think it's a pretty flawed system.
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I keep seeing people in threads talk about how it isn't worth it for a player to be sent to a tournament because the prize money isn't high. Mr. Scoots talked about this on the most recent I think live on three and he said that it is worth it to send players to a very popular tournament because the exposure that the players get (making sponsors happy) will benefit them enough to cover the costs of flying them over there.
So yea it isn't worth it for a player who isn't on a team but if you're on a team it is worth it. Don't underestimate the sheer number of viewers. MLG is so freaking popular.
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Personally, I don't agree with the points method of seeding players. I think MLG should seed players based completely on the previous tournament.
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I think they like seeding players based on every event this year because its a pro circuit. They want the best to try and compete all year and then in the end the top X get invited. I don't think they want the previous tournament to mean everything and every other tournament this year to mean nothing.
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On July 03 2011 08:00 Coolwhip wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 07:34 DarkRise wrote:On July 03 2011 07:11 Coolwhip wrote:
Odd that Incontrol is still in it. Didn't he end outside the top 16 even in the last MLG. The tourney should be more inviting to fresh blood imo. its by points, Control secure his spot from past MLGs I know, but I think it's a pretty flawed system.
I agree that the system has flaws, but Incontrol came 4th and 17th in this years two MLGs. He obviously has done enough to earn his spot.
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On July 03 2011 08:01 Sumwar wrote:
I keep seeing people in threads talk about how it isn't worth it for a player to be sent to a tournament because the prize money isn't high. Mr. Scoots talked about this on the most recent I think live on three and he said that it is worth it to send players to a very popular tournament because the exposure that the players get (making sponsors happy) will benefit them enough to cover the costs of flying them over there.
So yea it isn't worth it for a player who isn't on a team but if you're on a team it is worth it. Don't underestimate the sheer number of viewers. MLG is so freaking popular.
But also note the sponsor's target audience. It wouldn't be a problem for US players since their sponsors are aiming for US market and MLG is an US event. Of cause there will be people streaming from other countries but the numbers and exposure just might not be worth it.
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On July 03 2011 08:48 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 08:00 Coolwhip wrote:On July 03 2011 07:34 DarkRise wrote:On July 03 2011 07:11 Coolwhip wrote:
Odd that Incontrol is still in it. Didn't he end outside the top 16 even in the last MLG. The tourney should be more inviting to fresh blood imo. its by points, Control secure his spot from past MLGs I know, but I think it's a pretty flawed system. I agree that the system has flaws, but Incontrol came 4th and 17th in this years two MLGs. He obviously has done enough to earn his spot.
Going from 4th to 17th is a really big jump. He did enough to keep his spot the first time, the second time he did not.
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On July 03 2011 10:34 iNcontroL wrote:
lolol
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On July 03 2011 05:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 08:33 Ownos wrote:On July 02 2011 08:18 Toadvine wrote:On July 02 2011 08:08 Ownos wrote:On July 02 2011 07:46 Aurdon wrote:On July 02 2011 07:37 Milkis wrote:
If LosirA and MC decides to come to MLG without the invite, the pools might change though, apparently :O Is there not some rich fan or sponsor of eSports that wouldn't want to do a single person sponsorship for MC to get a plane ticket to the states? Stride, are you listening? How many fans would go apeshit if some way MC was able to come and then all the fans found out it was possible because of X sponsorship. You realize how many mentions that would get for that sponsor. #ROI As if he couldn't just buy a plane ticket himself... -.- Perhaps he would, had the prize pool been more appealing. As it is now, getting 3rd barely covers travel expenses for KR players. The EU players don't seem to have any trouble coming over. Going from Korea is about 2x the price I think. Although maybe west coast makes it more similiar for euros hm.
Through Sidestep / Kayak:
If you leave out of Incheon (ICN) and fly to LAX round trip departing on the 25th of July (figure a nice 14-20 hour flight depending on stops + some rest time from the trip) and leaving on the first of August will be about $16012 from what I can get from multiple airlines.
We'll say Frankfurt Germany to LAX with the same dates will run $1621 from multiple airlines.
Not really that much of a difference in price considering Frankfurt is about 1000 miles less than leaving from Incheon.
I hope this helps a few people that are traveling.
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Socke wouldnt be in the pool play if it counted only the previous tournament.
Thesystem is allright as it is.
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The system is good, encourages people to attend every MLG.
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On July 03 2011 10:31 shockaslim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 08:48 MCDayC wrote:On July 03 2011 08:00 Coolwhip wrote:On July 03 2011 07:34 DarkRise wrote:On July 03 2011 07:11 Coolwhip wrote:
Odd that Incontrol is still in it. Didn't he end outside the top 16 even in the last MLG. The tourney should be more inviting to fresh blood imo. its by points, Control secure his spot from past MLGs I know, but I think it's a pretty flawed system. I agree that the system has flaws, but Incontrol came 4th and 17th in this years two MLGs. He obviously has done enough to earn his spot. Going from 4th to 17th is a really big jump. He did enough to keep his spot the first time, the second time he did not.
you're basically saying that the top16 from the last event should be the 16 seeds for the next events. Which means anyone doing great for a whole year and having a small slump on one MLG is out of the tournament while another player beeing 16th every mlg always gets a seed. Seems kinda unfair to me.
it's pretty obvious to me that 4th and 17th combined is enough to be in the top16
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