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Hi everyone, MLG does it's groups by points, they've outlined how they do groups months ago before any of the events. There's no conspiracy. EG and Liquid have lots of players in the MLG Top X. Teamkills are inevitable. |
On July 02 2011 23:56 Shinobi1982 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 22:52 darcevader88 wrote: mc has to go, that guy is pure entertainment! That rich nerd baller can afford ticket on his own :D. Question is does he want to go?
He needs to wait to be eliminated from GSL first.
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Good to see some players finally drop from the safe spots. Considering how dumb it was to continue on from the first SC2 season with MLG
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Wtf why is everyone writing about groups.. that aren't the groups, that are POOLS and out of these pools the groups are going the be generated. It's like a seeding. If those are the "groups" i would like to eat my sc2 cover.
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On July 02 2011 23:22 two.watup wrote:
In IdrA's 3 MLG appearances he has taken 1st, 7th, and 4th.
You're forgetting Dallas 2010 when he got locked out the top 16 by Liquid Nazgul and Select.
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On July 02 2011 23:22 two.watup wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 23:17 Sumwar wrote: Group C & D seem the easiest and Group A is hard. Group B is a wildcard. How is Idra going to perform? He can sometimes be amazing but lately hasn't always been amazing. Incontrol is the same thing. Will he focus on being a pro or has he been spending too much time coaching/casting/etc. FXOSheth. How has his training in Korea helped him? A lot? Not a lot? I expect Sjow to not do well and Group B is a real wildcard of a group. What? In IdrA's 3 MLG appearances he has taken 1st, 7th, and 4th. He's a lock for at least 2nd in his group, depending on which Korean he gets.
Let us all pray and hope for oGsMC, if MC is going to come of course.
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On July 03 2011 03:26 Epx wrote: Wtf why is everyone writing about groups.. that aren't the groups, that are POOLS and out of these pools the groups are going the be generated. It's like a seeding. If those are the "groups" i would like to eat my sc2 cover.
Those pools are the groups. They are based on points from previous MLGs. However, nobody gets eliminated from the pool. However, the winner of the pool will go to the winners bracket semi finals. And all the other players will go to the losers bracket (the better you do in pool play, the higher round you will start in the losers bracket).
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On July 03 2011 03:38 Nighthawks28 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 03:26 Epx wrote: Wtf why is everyone writing about groups.. that aren't the groups, that are POOLS and out of these pools the groups are going the be generated. It's like a seeding. If those are the "groups" i would like to eat my sc2 cover. Those pools are the groups. They are based on points from previous MLGs. However, nobody gets eliminated from the pool. However, the winner of the pool will go to the winners bracket semi finals. And all the other players will go to the losers bracket (the better you do in pool play, the higher round you will start in the losers bracket).
Thanks for the explanation. The term "pool" confused me there.
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Finally Incontrol and Machine dont have to play against eachother in the group stage.
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Since tlo isn't playing will mlg be replacing him with tyler?
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Lolol. 3 liquid quys in the same group.. Gotta suck!
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On July 03 2011 03:55 Risen wrote: Since tlo isn't playing will mlg be replacing him with tyler?
Not sure what's happening. TLO didn't decline his invite so he might be playing. Other players, like thorzain, declined their invite so they aren't in the pool. So the fact that we see TLO in the pool that means he didn't decline.
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Can't wait for Anaheim now! Groups look sick!
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On July 02 2011 08:33 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 08:18 Toadvine wrote:On July 02 2011 08:08 Ownos wrote:On July 02 2011 07:46 Aurdon wrote:On July 02 2011 07:37 Milkis wrote: If LosirA and MC decides to come to MLG without the invite, the pools might change though, apparently :O Is there not some rich fan or sponsor of eSports that wouldn't want to do a single person sponsorship for MC to get a plane ticket to the states? Stride, are you listening? How many fans would go apeshit if some way MC was able to come and then all the fans found out it was possible because of X sponsorship. You realize how many mentions that would get for that sponsor. #ROI As if he couldn't just buy a plane ticket himself... -.- Perhaps he would, had the prize pool been more appealing. As it is now, getting 3rd barely covers travel expenses for KR players. The EU players don't seem to have any trouble coming over. Going from Korea is about 2x the price I think. Although maybe west coast makes it more similiar for euros hm.
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On July 02 2011 23:54 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 23:53 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:On July 02 2011 23:00 Draconicfire wrote: Cheering for Boxer to win so he gets a Code S spot >_> If he was to win the tournament he will not get a Code S Spot. Code S/Code A entries are for non-korean players who place 1st/2nd/3rd and potentially 4th. If Korean A places 1st and Foreigner B C D place 2nd/3rd/4th, each will get a Code A spot. That is incorrect. Everyone is eligible for the Code S spot, no matter the nationality. Only the 4 (not 3) Code A spots are reserved for non-Koreans.
There's normally 3 Code A spots. The 4th Code A spot will only be given if no one of the top 3 accepts the code S spot, or if all top 3 are already in Code S.
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On July 02 2011 07:32 ptbl wrote: Losira and MC declined to go to MLG Anaheim? They would have been seeded into chapionship pool play, which would have been very good for them. I'm very surprised that MC decided not to go. He's been going to a lot of international tournaments. For 5k its hardly worth it , i mean a flight probably costs a 3rd of that plus hotels etc thats like half your money right there.
Im surprised so many people critisize code a and then not MLG , mlg is almost as bad for prize pools (the difference in the total prize pool of the 2 is only 2k, MLG is just alot more top heavy) but with korea its more about the experience you get a month all expenses paid and it only takes 5 days to know weather your in the round of 8 for the up and down matches or not then you can choose to stay and practice or go home. Honestly though for MLG its not like koreans are going to gain a bunch in terms of training experiences their team houses are much better for that, so the only thing going for MLG is the prize pool and if it hardly pays your expenses for first then it surely isnt worth it.
Obviously the same can be said for travelling on your own to try and qualify for code a, but at least you have a place to stay for free, and you will get training experience unmatched anywhere else in the world
Like alot of the players travelling to korea have said, "its a time investment in me as a player to get better"
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On July 03 2011 05:16 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 07:32 ptbl wrote: Losira and MC declined to go to MLG Anaheim? They would have been seeded into chapionship pool play, which would have been very good for them. I'm very surprised that MC decided not to go. He's been going to a lot of international tournaments. For 5k its hardly worth it , i mean a flight probably costs a 3rd of that plus hotels etc thats like half your money right there. Im surprised so many people critisize code a and then not MLG , mlg is almost as bad for prize pools (the difference in the total prize pool of the 2 is only 2k, MLG is just alot more top heavy) but with korea its more about the experience you get a month all expenses paid and it only takes 5 days to know weather your in the round of 8 for the up and down matches or not then you can choose to stay and practice or go home. Honestly though for MLG its not like koreans are going to gain a bunch in terms of training experiences their team houses are much better for that, so the only thing going for MLG is the prize pool and if it hardly pays your expenses for first then it surely isnt worth it. Obviously the same can be said for travelling on your own to try and qualify for code a, but at least you have a place to stay for free, and you will get training experience unmatched anywhere else in the world Like alot of the players travelling to korea have said, "its a time investment in me as a player to get better"
It is not about the prize pool, it is about the exposure. MLG provides a 400 dollar stipend for members of the "Professional Players Association," whichever players those may be, which should cover a good deal of the expenses for anyone in the US. 5k is indeed not a huge sum, but if you are a sponsored player you are expected to represent your sponsors at high profile events like MLG, and that is where the payoff is.
Right now it is not really worth it for the Korean players to go to MLG on their own accord: it is a large investment for some exposure, but with the exchange program, they don't have to worry about the investment. The national championship is 50,000 for first place, which is quite reasonable, to travel internationally for.
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How come MMA isn't seeded? Not sure exactly how many points are awarded per rank, but with only 2 MLG's this year, he should only be behind Naniwa?
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man i seriously hope they send sage over code b FTW!!!
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On July 03 2011 06:14 Shichibukai wrote: How come MMA isn't seeded? Not sure exactly how many points are awarded per rank, but with only 2 MLG's this year, he should only be behind Naniwa? MMA is seeded third (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings), behind Naniwa and Idra, though I have no idea what means going into Anaheim. Are koreans not allowed to enter MLG because of their seed, seeing as MMA is not seeded, but he's going as an GSL invite? Or is there something else to it?
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On July 03 2011 06:37 Chenz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 06:14 Shichibukai wrote: How come MMA isn't seeded? Not sure exactly how many points are awarded per rank, but with only 2 MLG's this year, he should only be behind Naniwa? MMA is seeded third (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings), behind Naniwa and Idra, though I have no idea what means going into Anaheim. Are koreans not allowed to enter MLG because of their seed, seeing as MMA is not seeded, but he's going as an GSL invite? Or is there something else to it?
If they come on their own, they get seeded according to their MLG rank points.
If they are invited, each of the invites is placed in a different pool according to GSL points (best in pool d, worst in pool a). MLG points are ignored in this case. So if MMA hadn't been invited again, but came on his own, he would've been placed top of pool C as he's #3 seed.
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