MLG Potential Prize Pool Increase - Page 14

On July 30 2011 02:13 Flying_Cake wrote:
Just buy the frigin membership. If you don't want to contribute to esports then don't, leave the community and stop complaining.

On July 30 2011 00:36 tyCe wrote:
I think Sundance was using the tweet mostly as a hype attempt. Still, I didn't think it would backfire this much

On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!

On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!

On July 30 2011 02:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
So when Incontrol says something ignorant/sarcastic, everyone is quick to agree with him despite not knowing how much profit MLG makes and their general business model? I'm not entirely surprised by this anymore.

On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote:



Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success?

You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale.

Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends.

Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up.

On July 30 2011 02:41 Irave wrote:

He made a joking remark which basically states the same thing Sundance is wanting. Part of me wants to believe they are really close to the 100k mark and he is just trying to finish it off. However there is the part of we don't know how many they have exactly. I would like to believe it is close to the goal, however I'm not sure MLG has a huge following that will be able to support 100k purchases of the pass.

We have some idea of unique viewer ideas, but how many people just wanted to check it out and weren't all that interested in what they saw? How many of the viewers aren't able to even afford or are capable of even paying they money? That basis is more directed at age, as I'm sure a good portion of the viewers are under the age of 18.

I'd imagine as well he his expecting a new big mass of people coming into the MLG scene via LoL with how much stream success they had at Dreamhack. Lets be honest though, 100k people tends to be a lot. For example Sundance has under 33,000 followers on Twitter, and as we know so far is his only outlet of letting people know about this. Who knows how many of those accounts are inactive.

The only sour part about it is by putting the pressure on the fans to come through for him. If we aren't able to we aren't punished the competitors are. That is the part that is truly unusual.

For the people that think he is joking he followed it up with more tweets such as.

"I honestly don't care if you love me or hate me - I'm here to do a job and that job involves creating a stable future for esports."

"You can be part of that or not. But what happen is now up to all of you. Not me."

On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote:



Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success?

You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale.

Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends.

Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up.

On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote:



Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success?

You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale.

Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends.

Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up.

On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote:



Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success?

You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale.

Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends.

Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up.

On July 30 2011 03:09 Art_of_Kill wrote:
i just say so much: event time for europe 2am - 8am, i dont see why anyone would watch let alone buy hd stream