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Predateur
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada79 Posts
July 29 2011 14:46 GMT
#221

Where are the VOD of the upcoming match ? I hate their website
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 14:50:29
July 29 2011 14:48 GMT
#222
On July 29 2011 23:39 kratos-23 wrote:
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On July 29 2011 23:19 SuperFanBoy wrote:
honestly MLG needs to increase their prize pool regardless of how many ppl are paying or not. Also how many viewers does Halo and Cod get? im sure its much less then sc2 and they got the same amount prize pool -.- Infact I think Halo has a bigger prize pool then sc2.. kinda ridiculous.

it's not, halo is played by five people. so divide the prize pool by five.



it still does not change the fact that halo has a higher prize pool. Sc2 gets 5k while halo gets 25 k.

Yes i perfectly understand that its 5 ppl, im just saying that if mlg wants to continue supporting a halo prize pool like that, why is it leeching off the sc2 based subscribers . I doubt hardly anyone would pay to see a FPS game. sc2 is more than pulling its weight for suscribers and yet we have an overall very low prize, 5k is chomp change. This tournament is mainly for glory, most ppl entering this will be loosing money in fact.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
July 29 2011 14:50 GMT
#223
On July 29 2011 23:48 jinixxx123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 23:39 kratos-23 wrote:
On July 29 2011 23:19 SuperFanBoy wrote:
honestly MLG needs to increase their prize pool regardless of how many ppl are paying or not. Also how many viewers does Halo and Cod get? im sure its much less then sc2 and they got the same amount prize pool -.- Infact I think Halo has a bigger prize pool then sc2.. kinda ridiculous.

it's not, halo is played by five people. so divide the prize pool by five.



it still does not change the fact that halo has a higher prize pool. Sc2 gets 5k while halo gets 25 k.

Yes i perfectly understand that its 5 ppl, im just saying that if mlg wants to continue supporting a halo prize pool like that, why is it leeching off the sc2 based subscribers . I doubt hardly anyone would pay to see a FPS game.


5 people? Do they have an alternate or something? Halo is normally 4v4.
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
July 29 2011 14:50 GMT
#224
Oh i would pay to see a FPS game, just not any on console
Set it ablaze!
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 14:52:02
July 29 2011 14:51 GMT
#225
On July 29 2011 23:50 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 23:48 jinixxx123 wrote:
On July 29 2011 23:39 kratos-23 wrote:
On July 29 2011 23:19 SuperFanBoy wrote:
honestly MLG needs to increase their prize pool regardless of how many ppl are paying or not. Also how many viewers does Halo and Cod get? im sure its much less then sc2 and they got the same amount prize pool -.- Infact I think Halo has a bigger prize pool then sc2.. kinda ridiculous.

it's not, halo is played by five people. so divide the prize pool by five.



it still does not change the fact that halo has a higher prize pool. Sc2 gets 5k while halo gets 25 k.

Yes i perfectly understand that its 5 ppl, im just saying that if mlg wants to continue supporting a halo prize pool like that, why is it leeching off the sc2 based subscribers . I doubt hardly anyone would pay to see a FPS game.


5 people? Do they have an alternate or something? Halo is normally 4v4.


well whatever it is , that just shows you how much i care for FPS games.

so its 20 ,000 prize pool then, thats still alot compared to a 5k.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
July 29 2011 14:55 GMT
#226
It is a kind of like a season and the final tournament gives 50k to the winner. That is nothing to scoff at. NASL gave away 50k to the winner, but it was more condensed in season length.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
July 29 2011 14:55 GMT
#227
They are a company, they need to profit off of MLG. I would rather them have low prize pools and profit so they can continue MLG for all of us to enjoy to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Kairos~
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 15:02:26
July 29 2011 15:01 GMT
#228
On July 29 2011 23:55 Mementoss wrote:
They are a company, they need to profit off of MLG. I would rather them have low prize pools and profit so they can continue MLG for all of us to enjoy to watch.

They make a fuckload of money btw... Just saying... They could EASILY raise the prizepool by as much as 20-30k. They just dont have to. MLG is about going to an event, having fun, meeting players/ fans and having glory. Should it be higher? Ofcourse.
Huge EG Fan Right Here ^
jgoonld
Profile Joined November 2010
334 Posts
July 29 2011 15:11 GMT
#229
I'm getting tired of this advertising method in both streams and events. The "if we get [enter ridiculous number] viewers/subscribers; I'll give you something" method just feels so much like a TV infomercial or something. Just grates on my nerves, and it's obvious that the reducing the prize pool is just a troll.

I also don't understand all of the concern over prize pool. I, at least, watch most of all for player pool, story line, and production. As long as the prize pool is large enough to bring in a good player pool, what's the problem? I can see the need to raise the prize pool soon for the 'smaller' MLG tournaments sense some of the Euro guys don't find the investment in flying over worth the experience + prize pool, but as of now it seems to be a fine player pool.

There's plenty of tournaments with large prize pools, good player pools that go unnoticed mainly because either they don't have a big name in the community yet, or they just don't have the excitement factor of a LAN. I'm unconvinced that giving more prize money in an evenly distributed way will increase viewer count substantially. Are people holding out on subscribing because of the prize pool?
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
July 29 2011 15:11 GMT
#230
Okay guys, I just read through a lot of comments saying its too high. You have to remember for us starcraft players, this is just another tournament. A big one yes, but still we have many others. For the call of duty guys, and the halo guys, this is it.
I'm a gooner.
Waltchelg
Profile Joined April 2010
United States66 Posts
July 29 2011 15:12 GMT
#231
Holy shit you guys spew out a whole lot of negativity and blow a simple tweet into the end of the world. I only read the first three pages, but what the hell?

Sundance has stated on multiple occasions that due to the way they do prize pools the SC2 pool won't change this season. Now, he's just throwing something out there "oh, if we hit this really large milestone we'll increase the pool".

ps i bought my membership, fuck the haters.
Elite Muffin Crew / No Talent member
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 15:17:59
July 29 2011 15:16 GMT
#232
On July 30 2011 00:01 Kairos~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 23:55 Mementoss wrote:
They are a company, they need to profit off of MLG. I would rather them have low prize pools and profit so they can continue MLG for all of us to enjoy to watch.

They make a fuckload of money btw... Just saying... They could EASILY raise the prizepool by as much as 20-30k. They just dont have to. MLG is about going to an event, having fun, meeting players/ fans and having glory. Should it be higher? Ofcourse.

MLG has pretty much always been in the red.

All they have to do is play that "WEEEEE CANT BE DEEEEEEFTEADDDDDDDDD" bing ad 10 times in a row and then people will be scrambling for that membership.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 15:18:44
July 29 2011 15:18 GMT
#233
Well, I'm a gold member, so I'm doing my part :D
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
July 29 2011 15:19 GMT
#234
Would love to know something like a progress to see how many people are actually willing to pay for esports. I will buy my gold membership because those events are just awesome.
Mercadia
Profile Joined December 2010
United States257 Posts
July 29 2011 15:22 GMT
#235
The prize pool should have never been so low. The player tickets pay for the whole damn thing already...
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
July 29 2011 15:22 GMT
#236
Sundance isn't holding the community hostage. MLG has made lots of changes while not demanding anything in return. Granted we've flush them with views and dollars so they should accommodate us but that's exactly why they keep catering to us.

They said "show us you care and well add it to the circuit" so we made JP a celebrity.

They said "sell out your passes in a day and well raise the competitor pool size" so we sold out tix in one minute.

They said "fill out the arena and well have more chairs". So we spilled all over the floor all over the arena.

They said "show enough interest in subs and well offer adfree stream" so we blew that up and got what we have now.

Now they say "make the subs explode and well funnel it right back to the players". Why would we do anything other than what we've always done: blow up their expectations?

Center stage, two streams, international competition... we keep shattering their greatest hopes and best case scenarios and they have to recognize and reward us for it. Why do anything else now? Sundance isn't threatening us, he's constantly amazed by us and he's challenging us again just to see how powerful a force we are. Why should we do anything else than what we aways do: blow their minds.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 04:00:03
July 29 2011 15:23 GMT
#237
It is fine for Sundance to tweet this. He is just having fun trying to get people excited about their new membership program and sign up. The prize pool will probably increase next year regardless. They have spent a lot of their budget on improving the furniture and hardware used in this tournament. With that inplace next years budget should be able to support a larger prize pool.

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This is the mininum rental rate for Hall A which I believe MLG is using this weekend. This does not include their internet, transportation costs, employee payroll for the weekend and any unforseen expenses.

If MLG is making a ton of money and is super profitable, wouldn't every company in the world emulate what they are doing right now? Relax and see what the next year brings. Budgets are set in stone for companies or else they would go under pretty fast. Remember this is not 100k subscribers for SC2, it is for all of their games on the tour.
Brood War forever!
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
July 29 2011 15:24 GMT
#238
what kind of shady stuff is this? if they don't reach that goal they would have to decrease the prize pool? to what? zero?
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 15:25:52
July 29 2011 15:25 GMT
#239
On July 30 2011 00:23 Kralic wrote:If MLG is making a ton of money and is super profitable, wouldn't every company in the world emulate what they are doing right now?

Once again I have to say that MLG has pretty much always lost money and has made a ton of investments into their product this year so I doubt they are making as much money as you think they are.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
July 29 2011 15:32 GMT
#240
Can I just ask, those who have paid for passes for the ad-free stream, what exactly are you watching if not ads? I remember watching the crowed just sitting around whenever games arent being casted and ads aren't being played. Is that it, or is there some sort of content being shown? Otherwise, i dont really find "ad-free stream" to be much of a good feature, but rather one that's just as lame.
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