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MLG Potential Prize Pool Increase - Page 15
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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ajdoj14
United States32 Posts
People taking incontrol's comments to heart. Remember when Incontrol was telling you to buy season passes for NASL. How is this any different? He was promoting something he was a part of, and Sundance is promoting something he is a part of. Obviously Incontrol would want more prize money. He is a player, it's in his best interest to comment about the prize money and hope it increase. But I just don't understand why he makes comments like that, sarcastic or not. Wasn't he talking about the Nasl criticisms that he would get and how he didn't like it. Even if he is joking that comment will always add fuel to a fire of people mocking Sundance. Sundance is a great guy. People think he is only about the money, which he is not (yeah, he cares money, but he is a grown man who has done a great job expanding a company, he deserves it). Where as Starcraft doesn't need MLG, it is true, but MLG definitely adds a lot of value to starcraft by offering some of the best content every single tournament. Sundance is a businessman, and in e-sports he has done pretty damn well. He is a motivated guy who has made MLG a LOT bigger. I've been an MLG fan since '05 and to see how far it has come is great. Give him time and he will give you some of the most badass SC2 content available. Plus when is the last time a CEO would actually be willing to talk to the general public and actually pay attention to their comments, usually you would get a CEO's assistant's assistant. | ||
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Parsistamon
United States390 Posts
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ArcticFox
United States1092 Posts
On July 30 2011 03:09 Art_of_Kill wrote: i just say so much: event time for europe 2am - 8am, i dont see why anyone would watch let alone buy hd stream Many of us in the states have done just that for the GSL. Should the MLG expect any less? On Topic: Will be watching in HQ this weekend! Sundance. <3 | ||
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Stark1
Canada120 Posts
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TooN
1046 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote: Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success? You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale. Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends. Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up. Don't take too much with what Incontrol says. He thinks he is an icon in the SC2 community. He thinks he knows more than he does. He thinks he is a businessman. He thinks he is a top tier player. Don't take him serious. | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote: Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success? You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale. Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends. Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up. I am just in love with what you are doing man! Keep it up!!! If there are 24 live events next year, could we have more than one down here in sunny Florida?! :D Also, could you let us know how close we are already to the 100000 membership mark? | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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TooN
1046 Posts
Incontrol has a problem with what Sundance tweeted and makes a childish sarcastic comment. Sundance responds with a boss statement that includes numbers and a future model. | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On July 30 2011 03:18 Whole wrote: I would buy a pass if my work schedule wouldn't overlap with MLG. And I don't want to be an asshole to my coworkers and schedule off every 2 months. You work Saturdays and Sundays too? Also, buying the membership gets you the VOD.... | ||
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chaopow
United States556 Posts
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The Iron Duke
United Kingdom41 Posts
want esports to not fail, got to pay and make it in to a viable business, i am fine with that :D | ||
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FunnelC4kes
Ireland462 Posts
I don't doubt for a second that, should the NASL come into a questionable financial situation, we would see iNControl come down and say: Hey guys, let's support e-sports! For that to happen, we really need you guys to support the organization by buying a subscription. It's a win-win situation. You get more SC2 to watch, with exceedingly competitive games because of a bigger, more lucrative prize-pool, and we get to stay in business. What would you think about that? Do you think he'd feel pissed off if he got a similar, jack-ass response? I got a good laugh out of iNcontrol's response, but that's because I know how hard it is to run a live event like this. It's a pain in the ass and you hope that one day the money will come in... So, let's support the organization who wants to entertain us and buy a damn membership. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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MrEaux
United States165 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote: Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success? You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale. Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends. Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up. What you do is meaningful and appreciated, I stepped up and bought a membership the day they became available for sale, my friends did the same. I also have a big stupid grin on my face because I love your attitude toward the whole thing. It's that kind of attitude and determination that's going to make MLG a huge success in the future. Keep it up man. Ride or die! | ||
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ajdoj14
United States32 Posts
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FunnelC4kes
Ireland462 Posts
On July 30 2011 03:31 ajdoj14 wrote: The sad part is Sundance was always giving him uplifting tweets whenever he would say something about the negative criticisms that he was getting while working on NASL. Then he literally just turns around and makes stupid comments like that. Wait--was Sundance collaborating with NASL, or were you referring to iNcontrol? | ||
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bob198
Canada14 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote: Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success? You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale. Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends. Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up. Best post ever? I'm buying a pass! Go Go MLG! | ||
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ajdoj14
United States32 Posts
On July 30 2011 03:33 FunnelC4kes wrote: Wait--was Sundance collaborating with NASL, or were you referring to iNcontrol? When Incontrol would get negative comments about his NASL stuff, Sundance would always tweet him something, like use the haters as fuel or something along those lines | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Ignore it. What he said was tongue in cheek. | ||
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