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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 29 2011 18:10 GMT
#281
I would buy it in an instant if I didn't just graduate from uni with a £80,000 debt hanging over my head... Rest assured, I'll definitely do so once I find a job!
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
ajdoj14
Profile Joined July 2011
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 18:13:16
July 29 2011 18:10 GMT
#282
I took it as Sundance promoting his company, kinda what a good businessman would do. Or he could just sit around hoping that people will magically decide to do it. It is a good tactic as a businessman to motivate people to purchase your product.

People taking incontrol's comments to heart. Remember when Incontrol was telling you to buy season passes for NASL. How is this any different? He was promoting something he was a part of, and Sundance is promoting something he is a part of.

Obviously Incontrol would want more prize money. He is a player, it's in his best interest to comment about the prize money and hope it increase. But I just don't understand why he makes comments like that, sarcastic or not. Wasn't he talking about the Nasl criticisms that he would get and how he didn't like it. Even if he is joking that comment will always add fuel to a fire of people mocking Sundance.

Sundance is a great guy. People think he is only about the money, which he is not (yeah, he cares money, but he is a grown man who has done a great job expanding a company, he deserves it). Where as Starcraft doesn't need MLG, it is true, but MLG definitely adds a lot of value to starcraft by offering some of the best content every single tournament. Sundance is a businessman, and in e-sports he has done pretty damn well. He is a motivated guy who has made MLG a LOT bigger. I've been an MLG fan since '05 and to see how far it has come is great. Give him time and he will give you some of the most badass SC2 content available.

Plus when is the last time a CEO would actually be willing to talk to the general public and actually pay attention to their comments, usually you would get a CEO's assistant's assistant.
Parsistamon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States390 Posts
July 29 2011 18:11 GMT
#283
I don't know why people are upset at this. It has been a long time since MLG has increased the prize money for an event other than SC2, which was only recently increased because it was clearly too low given the demand. 100,000 memberships is not just a million dollars, it's proof that there is a big market that is willing to pay. That is really what sponsors want to see. You're not just giving money, you're also showing your commitment, and that counts for a lot.
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
July 29 2011 18:12 GMT
#284
On July 30 2011 03:09 Art_of_Kill wrote:
i just say so much: event time for europe 2am - 8am, i dont see why anyone would watch let alone buy hd stream

Many of us in the states have done just that for the GSL. Should the MLG expect any less?

On Topic: Will be watching in HQ this weekend! Sundance. <3
Stark1
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada120 Posts
July 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#285
Great, here comes incontrol to grab attention away from someone else by shitting things up; just can't stand when other people try to do something for the community, eh? Maybe someone's scared that NASL will lose ticket-holders in the wake of MLG's success, even though he's not "officially" involved with it anymore? Either way I look forward to more great things from MLG, and another embarrassing "I respect you" into cannon rush strategy from Geoff.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 18:18:51
July 29 2011 18:16 GMT
#286
On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!



Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success?

You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale.

Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends.

Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up.



Don't take too much with what Incontrol says. He thinks he is an icon in the SC2 community. He thinks he knows more than he does. He thinks he is a businessman. He thinks he is a top tier player.

Don't take him serious.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
July 29 2011 18:17 GMT
#287
On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!



Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success?

You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale.

Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends.

Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up.



I am just in love with what you are doing man! Keep it up!!!
If there are 24 live events next year, could we have more than one down here in sunny Florida?! :D
Also, could you let us know how close we are already to the 100000 membership mark?
http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/296431601 <------Suscribe! Casts in Spanish :) |||| http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/300285215<----- CSL: Before Sunday! Episode 3!
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 18:18:46
July 29 2011 18:18 GMT
#288
I would buy a pass if my work schedule wouldn't overlap with MLG. And I don't want to be an asshole to my coworkers and schedule off every 2 months.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
July 29 2011 18:20 GMT
#289
You can tell who is the real professional.

Incontrol has a problem with what Sundance tweeted and makes a childish sarcastic comment.

Sundance responds with a boss statement that includes numbers and a future model.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
July 29 2011 18:21 GMT
#290
On July 30 2011 03:18 Whole wrote:
I would buy a pass if my work schedule wouldn't overlap with MLG. And I don't want to be an asshole to my coworkers and schedule off every 2 months.


You work Saturdays and Sundays too?
Also, buying the membership gets you the VOD....
http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/296431601 <------Suscribe! Casts in Spanish :) |||| http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/300285215<----- CSL: Before Sunday! Episode 3!
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
July 29 2011 18:23 GMT
#291
He's trying to promote and hype MLG, and esports in general. Sure he's going to make more money, but if we had 100,000 people pay to watch MLG, plus all the people who watch the low quality stream for free, E-sports would be absolutely huge. And to go with the huge growth of viewers, the prize pool would obviously have to be increased. 100k+ viewers aren't going to want to watch only $5,000 go to first place.
Soowoo AD.
The Iron Duke
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom41 Posts
July 29 2011 18:25 GMT
#292
hmm 100,000 dosnt sound like to much when my student load comes in you can mark that down to 99,999
want esports to not fail, got to pay and make it in to a viable business, i am fine with that :D
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
July 29 2011 18:27 GMT
#293
Here's the thing: it seems that MLG isn't doing as well as anyone believes. It's professional, flashy and, for the most part, exceptionally run.

I don't doubt for a second that, should the NASL come into a questionable financial situation, we would see iNControl come down and say:

Hey guys, let's support e-sports! For that to happen, we really need you guys to support the organization by buying a subscription. It's a win-win situation. You get more SC2 to watch, with exceedingly competitive games because of a bigger, more lucrative prize-pool, and we get to stay in business.

What would you think about that? Do you think he'd feel pissed off if he got a similar, jack-ass response?

I got a good laugh out of iNcontrol's response, but that's because I know how hard it is to run a live event like this. It's a pain in the ass and you hope that one day the money will come in... So, let's support the organization who wants to entertain us and buy a damn membership.
Scholar. Shaman. Starcraft Enthusiast.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 29 2011 18:28 GMT
#294
I would sure hope they would increase the prize pool if they manage to reach 100,000 subscribers. Come on, that's a give me.
MrEaux
Profile Joined June 2010
United States165 Posts
July 29 2011 18:30 GMT
#295
On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!



Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success?

You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale.

Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends.

Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up.



What you do is meaningful and appreciated, I stepped up and bought a membership the day they became available for sale, my friends did the same. I also have a big stupid grin on my face because I love your attitude toward the whole thing. It's that kind of attitude and determination that's going to make MLG a huge success in the future. Keep it up man. Ride or die!
ajdoj14
Profile Joined July 2011
United States32 Posts
July 29 2011 18:31 GMT
#296
The sad part is Sundance was always giving him uplifting tweets whenever he would say something about the negative criticisms that he was getting while working on NASL. Then he literally just turns around and makes stupid comments like that.
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
July 29 2011 18:33 GMT
#297
On July 30 2011 03:31 ajdoj14 wrote:
The sad part is Sundance was always giving him uplifting tweets whenever he would say something about the negative criticisms that he was getting while working on NASL. Then he literally just turns around and makes stupid comments like that.


Wait--was Sundance collaborating with NASL, or were you referring to iNcontrol?
Scholar. Shaman. Starcraft Enthusiast.
bob198
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada14 Posts
July 29 2011 18:33 GMT
#298
On July 30 2011 02:41 SundanceMLG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!



Months ago you gave me shit about the prize pool and now I'm putting a simple and obtainable goal out there for the entire community and you give me shit again - and that's fine. I still respect you and appreciate what you've done and will continue to do for the scene. My question is this - if the number was 50,000 would you take an issue with my approach? How about 15,000? What if I didn't say a thing and just watched my spreadsheets populate with numbers and kept the community in the dark? Shouldn't the people who love this have some insight into what is needed for success?

You're either in or you're out. $30 a year from 100,000 people makes this company a real business and not just a passion project from a guy with a hippy name who refuses to quit. $30 a year from 10,000 people means that we're all wrong and there isn't enough fan support to sustain a business of scale.

Less than a dime a day from less than 10% of the people who visit our site over the course of an event weekend allows me to flip a switch and change next year to a structure that supports 24 live events & 28 meaningful ladders. 52 competitions with nearly 2 million dollars of prize money and stipends.

Again - I don't care if you think I'm an asshole or a money grubbing prick. I just want to find out if what we do is actually meaningful to enough of you to step up.



Best post ever?

I'm buying a pass! Go Go MLG!
ajdoj14
Profile Joined July 2011
United States32 Posts
July 29 2011 18:35 GMT
#299
On July 30 2011 03:33 FunnelC4kes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 03:31 ajdoj14 wrote:
The sad part is Sundance was always giving him uplifting tweets whenever he would say something about the negative criticisms that he was getting while working on NASL. Then he literally just turns around and makes stupid comments like that.


Wait--was Sundance collaborating with NASL, or were you referring to iNcontrol?



When Incontrol would get negative comments about his NASL stuff, Sundance would always tweet him something, like use the haters as fuel or something along those lines
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 18:38:20
July 29 2011 18:36 GMT
#300
Guys, that's Geoff being Geoff. I remember when he went on his binge posting when he first signed up here. He would always be on the WGTour forums and what not, but he would never post here. Then when he made his TL account, low and behold the trollish one-liner remarks started. He's always made comments like that.

Ignore it. What he said was tongue in cheek.
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