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faseman
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia215 Posts
November 17 2009 04:09 GMT
#21
Whoever is streaming on legacy_uk right now has some of the lowest fps streaming ever. Oh goooooood! It's bearable, but it feels like 5-8 fps recording
foppa
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada451 Posts
November 17 2009 04:16 GMT
#22
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense
i can take you
John49ers
Profile Joined May 2009
United States237 Posts
November 17 2009 04:24 GMT
#23
wow it's choppy. The music is great though.
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
November 17 2009 04:24 GMT
#24
90 apm fighting
@KawaiiRiceLighT
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
November 17 2009 04:25 GMT
#25
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Watch and learn.
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Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-17 04:26:44
November 17 2009 04:26 GMT
#26
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Did you know Fantasy had 200 APM when he was a semi progamer? AND HE PLAYED TERRAN? :OOOOO
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 17 2009 04:55 GMT
#27
the stream is choppy/laggy, dunno if that can be helped though ;x
@QxGDarkCell ._.
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
November 17 2009 05:00 GMT
#28
The difference between PvsAll and TvZ is right here.
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
November 17 2009 05:02 GMT
#29
On November 17 2009 13:55 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
the stream is choppy/laggy, dunno if that can be helped though ;x


indeed
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 17 2009 05:08 GMT
#30
On November 17 2009 13:09 faseman wrote:
Whoever is streaming on legacy_uk right now has some of the lowest fps streaming ever. Oh goooooood! It's bearable, but it feels like 5-8 fps recording


if it's aon.legacy he's a newb anyway
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43350 Posts
November 17 2009 06:15 GMT
#31
I'm using Legacy's because for some reason it works and mine doesn't. He doesn't use it so it's cool.

Chill, how do I record and on demand?

Thanks for watching guys. I had some real nice games there so I hope you liked them. Some great lategame PvZ on longi but unfortunately he got the best of me a few times. I think it went 4-4 overall but I lost points because of rank differences.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
November 17 2009 07:22 GMT
#32
On November 17 2009 15:15 KwarK wrote:
I'm using Legacy's because for some reason it works and mine doesn't. He doesn't use it so it's cool.

Chill, how do I record and on demand?

Thanks for watching guys. I had some real nice games there so I hope you liked them. Some great lategame PvZ on longi but unfortunately he got the best of me a few times. I think it went 4-4 overall but I lost points because of rank differences.

On Demand is a tab on the top of your studio thing. Just drag your recordings in and enable it.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
November 17 2009 07:24 GMT
#33
On November 17 2009 13:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Watch and learn.


some people call it cheese
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43350 Posts
November 17 2009 07:43 GMT
#34
On November 17 2009 16:24 Cube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 13:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Watch and learn.


some people call it cheese

Vast majority of my games don't involve cheese. As the guy said, watch and learn.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
November 17 2009 09:56 GMT
#35
On November 17 2009 16:43 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 16:24 Cube wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Watch and learn.


some people call it cheese

Vast majority of my games don't involve cheese. As the guy said, watch and learn.

True. Because in the eyes of a 100 apm toss marching up the ladder, proxy tech, centre gateway and two base carriers is the very definition of standard play.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43350 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-17 10:06:09
November 17 2009 10:03 GMT
#36
On November 17 2009 18:56 meathook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 16:43 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2009 16:24 Cube wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Watch and learn.


some people call it cheese

Vast majority of my games don't involve cheese. As the guy said, watch and learn.

True. Because in the eyes of a 100 apm toss marching up the ladder, proxy tech, centre gateway and two base carriers is the very definition of standard play.

As far as I remember I've used carriers once since the B ranks and that was on 5 bases in a very long PvZ. Centre gateways PvP once against a P who scouts way too late. No proxy tech, there's no point because decent players can work out exactly what's missing and it just slows you down.
The fact that I'm streaming gives people the new opportunity to see how I play before criticising it, instead of just assuming all I do is bulldog (I never bulldog) or some shit like that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm open to criticism, that's one of the most valuable aspects of streaming games to the public imo. I'll be able to get dozens of new perspectives on my game. But criticism from guys who haven't got any idea what they're talking about because they haven't taken the time to look but still feel like chiming in their two cents pisses me off.

Basically, if you see me play and want to ask why I did X or think I could do Y better then pm me and I'll be happy to talk about it. But if you haven't seen me play don't spout shit about what you think I might do because you have no idea what you're talking about and you have nothing worthwhile to contribute.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
November 17 2009 10:15 GMT
#37
On November 17 2009 19:03 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 18:56 meathook wrote:
On November 17 2009 16:43 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2009 16:24 Cube wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Watch and learn.


some people call it cheese

Vast majority of my games don't involve cheese. As the guy said, watch and learn.

True. Because in the eyes of a 100 apm toss marching up the ladder, proxy tech, centre gateway and two base carriers is the very definition of standard play.

As far as I remember I've used carriers once since the B ranks and that was on 5 bases in a very long PvZ. Centre gateways PvP once against a P who scouts way too late. No proxy tech, there's no point because decent players can work out exactly what's missing and it just slows you down.
The fact that I'm streaming gives people the new opportunity to see how I play before criticising it, instead of just assuming all I do is bulldog (I never bulldog) or some shit like that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm open to criticism, that's one of the most valuable aspects of streaming games to the public imo. I'll be able to get dozens of new perspectives on my game. But criticism from guys who haven't got any idea what they're talking about because they haven't taken the time to look but still feel like chiming in their two cents pisses me off.

I remember playing you a couple of times on iccup, and what I wrote above is exactly what you were doing. You posted a replay in the who's who a while back showcasing a proxy reaver strategy against some poor terran (who ended up raping you, actually).
I have seen games you've played on different occasions, each time it made me wince due to some sort of cheese by you. You are, in fact, known for this. If you feel I have an erroneous perception of your playstyle, you have only yourself to blame.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43350 Posts
November 17 2009 10:40 GMT
#38
On November 17 2009 19:15 meathook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 19:03 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2009 18:56 meathook wrote:
On November 17 2009 16:43 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2009 16:24 Cube wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Watch and learn.


some people call it cheese

Vast majority of my games don't involve cheese. As the guy said, watch and learn.

True. Because in the eyes of a 100 apm toss marching up the ladder, proxy tech, centre gateway and two base carriers is the very definition of standard play.

As far as I remember I've used carriers once since the B ranks and that was on 5 bases in a very long PvZ. Centre gateways PvP once against a P who scouts way too late. No proxy tech, there's no point because decent players can work out exactly what's missing and it just slows you down.
The fact that I'm streaming gives people the new opportunity to see how I play before criticising it, instead of just assuming all I do is bulldog (I never bulldog) or some shit like that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm open to criticism, that's one of the most valuable aspects of streaming games to the public imo. I'll be able to get dozens of new perspectives on my game. But criticism from guys who haven't got any idea what they're talking about because they haven't taken the time to look but still feel like chiming in their two cents pisses me off.

I remember playing you a couple of times on iccup, and what I wrote above is exactly what you were doing. You posted a replay in the who's who a while back showcasing a proxy reaver strategy against some poor terran (who ended up raping you, actually).
I have seen games you've played on different occasions, each time it made me wince due to some sort of cheese by you. You are, in fact, known for this. If you feel I have an erroneous perception of your playstyle, you have only yourself to blame.

I'm known for this because of rumours built on rumours started exactly like this. Watch the stream and see how I play or have no idea how I play and keep it to yourself.
And that proxy elevator on destination isn't a cheese build.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
November 17 2009 11:11 GMT
#39
On November 17 2009 19:40 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 19:15 meathook wrote:
On November 17 2009 19:03 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2009 18:56 meathook wrote:
On November 17 2009 16:43 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2009 16:24 Cube wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Watch and learn.


some people call it cheese

Vast majority of my games don't involve cheese. As the guy said, watch and learn.

True. Because in the eyes of a 100 apm toss marching up the ladder, proxy tech, centre gateway and two base carriers is the very definition of standard play.

As far as I remember I've used carriers once since the B ranks and that was on 5 bases in a very long PvZ. Centre gateways PvP once against a P who scouts way too late. No proxy tech, there's no point because decent players can work out exactly what's missing and it just slows you down.
The fact that I'm streaming gives people the new opportunity to see how I play before criticising it, instead of just assuming all I do is bulldog (I never bulldog) or some shit like that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm open to criticism, that's one of the most valuable aspects of streaming games to the public imo. I'll be able to get dozens of new perspectives on my game. But criticism from guys who haven't got any idea what they're talking about because they haven't taken the time to look but still feel like chiming in their two cents pisses me off.

I remember playing you a couple of times on iccup, and what I wrote above is exactly what you were doing. You posted a replay in the who's who a while back showcasing a proxy reaver strategy against some poor terran (who ended up raping you, actually).
I have seen games you've played on different occasions, each time it made me wince due to some sort of cheese by you. You are, in fact, known for this. If you feel I have an erroneous perception of your playstyle, you have only yourself to blame.

I'm known for this because of rumours built on rumours started exactly like this. Watch the stream and see how I play or have no idea how I play and keep it to yourself.

Like I said earlier, I am not basing anything I've said on rumours, but on first-hand experience and replays of you which I have come across.

I did not even know who the hell you were before playing you, I found out that you were a big poster on TL much later.

I might watch your stream sometime. Just for the hell of it.

And that proxy elevator on destination isn't a cheese build.

Lol. Thanks for strengthening the point I was making.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
Dantak
Profile Joined January 2006
Czech Republic648 Posts
November 17 2009 11:27 GMT
#40
On November 17 2009 19:40 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 19:15 meathook wrote:
On November 17 2009 19:03 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2009 18:56 meathook wrote:
On November 17 2009 16:43 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2009 16:24 Cube wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
On November 17 2009 13:16 foppa wrote:
i dont understand how you can be b+ with 80 eapm. it just doesnt make sense

Watch and learn.


some people call it cheese

Vast majority of my games don't involve cheese. As the guy said, watch and learn.

True. Because in the eyes of a 100 apm toss marching up the ladder, proxy tech, centre gateway and two base carriers is the very definition of standard play.

As far as I remember I've used carriers once since the B ranks and that was on 5 bases in a very long PvZ. Centre gateways PvP once against a P who scouts way too late. No proxy tech, there's no point because decent players can work out exactly what's missing and it just slows you down.
The fact that I'm streaming gives people the new opportunity to see how I play before criticising it, instead of just assuming all I do is bulldog (I never bulldog) or some shit like that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm open to criticism, that's one of the most valuable aspects of streaming games to the public imo. I'll be able to get dozens of new perspectives on my game. But criticism from guys who haven't got any idea what they're talking about because they haven't taken the time to look but still feel like chiming in their two cents pisses me off.

I remember playing you a couple of times on iccup, and what I wrote above is exactly what you were doing. You posted a replay in the who's who a while back showcasing a proxy reaver strategy against some poor terran (who ended up raping you, actually).
I have seen games you've played on different occasions, each time it made me wince due to some sort of cheese by you. You are, in fact, known for this. If you feel I have an erroneous perception of your playstyle, you have only yourself to blame.

I'm known for this because of rumours built on rumours started exactly like this. Watch the stream and see how I play or have no idea how I play and keep it to yourself.
And that proxy elevator on destination isn't a cheese build.


Why are you defending yourself? It's starcraft and the only goal here is to defeat your enemy. Who cares how? Oh yeah, those who can't improvise. Just f... them!

Also I'd rather watch exciting fast games than boring and "standart" ones.
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