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unsniped
Profile Joined November 2009
United States241 Posts
February 01 2013 14:50 GMT
#1
Any new fitting ideas/questions you want another person to look at? Post 'em here!
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 18:16:58
February 01 2013 18:15 GMT
#2
I see from the corp fittings Minnie cruisers aren't really recommended, but I had previously trained them and T2 medium projectile guns (I have basically no missile skills, but all gunnery supports 4ed) so I was pondering this fit.

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I'm sure I'm missing something and it's a horrible/inefficient fit, so I was hoping someone could critique it.
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
February 01 2013 19:14 GMT
#3
It looks like you want to brawl with that, not something the stabber excels at. Rather get a rupture(or better yet, thorax/vexor)
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 03:40:16
February 01 2013 19:28 GMT
#4
Nvm Aeth's fit is best
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 21:38:29
February 01 2013 21:30 GMT
#5
[image loading]

More damage, very slight (1k) hp loss, very slight loss of damage projection, and - most importantly - dual propulsion.

Also, don't post fits for discussion with your personal skills n00b, post with all Vs!

Also, hail has very limited use. If you are kind of new, as a general rule of thumb, don't shoot hail at anything unless the hull you are firing at is a size up from your weapons class (frigate guns shooting at cruisers, cruiser guns shooting at battleships, etc), and also has an explosive resist hole.
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
February 01 2013 21:55 GMT
#6
On February 02 2013 06:30 JJoNeEightY wrote:
[image loading]

More damage, very slight (1k) hp loss, very slight loss of damage projection, and - most importantly - dual propulsion.

Also, don't post fits for discussion with your personal skills n00b, post with all Vs!

Also, hail has very limited use. If you are kind of new, as a general rule of thumb, don't shoot hail at anything unless the hull you are firing at is a size up from your weapons class (frigate guns shooting at cruisers, cruiser guns shooting at battleships, etc), and also has an explosive resist hole.

I do like your fit better than mine, slight loss in EHP and damage projection past 30km (with barrage) for dual prop. Also, Pangell is basically all Vs so it makes no real difference!
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
February 01 2013 23:06 GMT
#7
Maybe have separate threads for separate ships kinda like how Failheap does it?
Serious Business
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
February 01 2013 23:49 GMT
#8
I vote for motbob warning people for terrible fits
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43225 Posts
February 01 2013 23:50 GMT
#9
The issue with the first stabber setup is the 1 minute 7 seconds of cap which is part of a broader issue with shield cruisers. Basically to nano you need a mwd, a long point and (fitting dependent) an invuln. These modules are intensely cap heavy for a cruiser. 1 minute 7 seconds is not, nor will ever be, enough to do what you want. Ships like the cynabal can get around these issues by having infinite fitting and going for 3x LSE or dual prop (never an invuln) but the stabber doesn't have that luxury. You really need a small cap booster to do what you're trying which fucks your fit in other ways. Basically, no.
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Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
February 01 2013 23:55 GMT
#10
On February 02 2013 08:50 KwarK wrote:
The issue with the first stabber setup is the 1 minute 7 seconds of cap which is part of a broader issue with shield cruisers. Basically to nano you need a mwd, a long point and (fitting dependent) an invuln. These modules are intensely cap heavy for a cruiser. 1 minute 7 seconds is not, nor will ever be, enough to do what you want. Ships like the cynabal can get around these issues by having infinite fitting and going for 3x LSE or dual prop (never an invuln) but the stabber doesn't have that luxury. You really need a small cap booster to do what you're trying which fucks your fit in other ways. Basically, no.

The nice thing about the Stabber is that you can use Mindflood without any of the side effects really doing anything.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
February 02 2013 00:14 GMT
#11
and that gives what 10 sec more cap?
Serious Business
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
February 02 2013 00:17 GMT
#12
On February 02 2013 09:14 Johnny Business wrote:
and that gives what 10 sec more cap?

It's like 20 or 30
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
February 02 2013 01:24 GMT
#13
On February 02 2013 08:50 KwarK wrote:
The issue with the first stabber setup is the 1 minute 7 seconds of cap which is part of a broader issue with shield cruisers. Basically to nano you need a mwd, a long point and (fitting dependent) an invuln. These modules are intensely cap heavy for a cruiser. 1 minute 7 seconds is not, nor will ever be, enough to do what you want. Ships like the cynabal can get around these issues by having infinite fitting and going for 3x LSE or dual prop (never an invuln) but the stabber doesn't have that luxury. You really need a small cap booster to do what you're trying which fucks your fit in other ways. Basically, no.


The stabber functions well enough without a small cap booster, as long as you have trained your cap skills to 4. It requires good cap management for sure, but it is definitely quite functional/good. The omen and the caracal, on the other hand, really, really need that cap booster.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
February 02 2013 01:36 GMT
#14
I thought an invuln on a cruiser was one of the prime sins
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
February 02 2013 02:04 GMT
#15
On February 02 2013 10:36 Mandini wrote:
I thought an invuln on a cruiser was one of the prime sins


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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43225 Posts
February 02 2013 03:11 GMT
#16
The man lives.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
February 02 2013 03:20 GMT
#17
I knew that would bring him to this thread
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
February 03 2013 14:34 GMT
#18
Thanks for the feedback. Looking at it now, I think I was looking at the corp Moa fit and trying to force that style of build onto a ship with completely different strengths, which in hindsight is pretty foolish.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
February 04 2013 06:10 GMT
#19
On February 02 2013 11:04 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
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On February 02 2013 10:36 Mandini wrote:
I thought an invuln on a cruiser was one of the prime sins


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Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
February 04 2013 08:50 GMT
#20
I have like 25 bellicose to get rid of.

Someone make a fit that isn't embarrassing. I've been playing around with RALM fits (essentially mirrors the caracal, but has 15k more EHP and about 66% of the damage projection range and a full flight of drones) , but haven't found one I liked.
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