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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17897 Posts
i voted for the labour party because i thought their leader was the smartest, wisest, and best negotiator of all the major party leaders. that other stuff about finland is just a joke. finland is cool. finland's hockey players are missing a lot of teeth ... so you know these are real men. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
On February 01 2018 18:35 opisska wrote: Almost as if you had the tendency to .... dodge fights? Yeah, I remember dodging you. Dodging you with Oracles. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
On February 02 2018 05:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i voted for the labour party because i thought their leader was the smartest, wisest, and best negotiator of all the major party leaders. that other stuff about finland is just a joke. finland is cool. finland's hockey players are missing a lot of teeth ... so you know these are real men. It was some kind of weird joke from my side. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 02 2018 20:42 Heartland wrote: Yeah, I remember dodging you. Dodging you with Oracles. You indeed dodged playing a real game there! | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On February 03 2018 04:00 opisska wrote: You indeed dodged playing a real game there! You mean BW, right? Also, lol. On February 03 2018 04:58 a_flayer wrote: Lol, your country is run by Jews. Source Why did this law exist in the first place? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22637 Posts
On February 03 2018 06:11 LegalLord wrote: You mean BW, right? Also, lol. He could have just posted the article, because it is indeed a very silly law. But he just had to add that opening line, tainting the entire post. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 03 2018 16:21 Ej_ wrote: Is calling a country run by Jews run by Jews a bannable offense? Ofc. As everyone knows the Elders of Zion control the world's media in general and Teamliquid in particular, so they can't let comments like that slide. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17897 Posts
On February 03 2018 16:21 Ej_ wrote: Is calling a country run by Jews run by Jews a bannable offense? Inside Track Motorsports News is run by Jews. whenever you overthrow a civilization every one knows the first thing you do is go after the Auto Racing Magazines. everything else falls like dominos. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On February 03 2018 16:21 Ej_ wrote: Is calling a country run by Jews run by Jews a bannable offense? Two things are at play here to consider: 1. When things go wrong, the common folk generally blame the people in the government. 2. Stereotypes can be harmful to people. So, to weigh in on this, I don't think mentioning any ethnicity is necessarily something that should be censored in all cases, but using an ethnicity in a negative connotative manner and have it go unopposed can lead some regular users to believe that such discourse is okay. That means they may say things that create a unwelcoming environment. For example, if someone said "Fuck the French, their whole country is one big landfill." and it was just accepted as 'normal' in this community, some French people might wave it off as random internet stupidity, but others would go "Eh, I'm not going to post on this website. It's not worth my time if people can just insult me and my culture openly." It's like that with every kind of identity. If someone says "Jews are running the government", what are they saying? It's usually not "Great job, Jewish people! Keep running our society in such a respectable manner!" but more along the lines of "Our problems are being caused by people in power, and those people are Jews." If we still lived in the Berenstein Bears universe, it would be quite likely that I'm just being overly-sensitive, but this is the Berenstain Bears universe where the Holocaust happened. Now, I personally hate to bring up Hitler, Nazis, The Holocaust, because I think people do it way too often for non-related issues, like "Pepe The Frog is a symbol of Nazism" which really devalues the gravity of our unfortunate history. But in his speeches, Adolf Hitler was very specific about his belief that an "international clique of Jews" was pulling the strings and was responsible for the hardships Germany endured through the early 1930s. The reality is that antisemitism was huge before World War 2. Even in the US and Britain, it was socially acceptable to deride the Jewish people in a racist manner. Today, there is a very large number of extremists on the internet who subscribe to and discuss very hateful anti-Jewish and anti-Muslim sentiments. I'm not going to give them a shout-out, so if you want to know where to find them, send me a PM or something. Just know they're out there, and there are a lot of them. I even know there are prominent members of the StarCraft community who have some of these beliefs, but don't ask me for their names, because we don't need to have a witchhunt. I don't want them to feel threatened, or anyone to feel threatened. I think Teamliquid wants to be a community where, if you love games, you can talk to other people who love games, no matter who you are. There are plenty of other platforms to discuss extreme political stuff. I could be mistaken, but I just don't see a positive reason to go "Jews are running your government". Even if it's Israel. There's no damn reason to call such extreme attention to race. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Your controversy on TL (USPOL) is between loudmouths that wish something happened, and bend the truth as far as they can to make it look like it happened, and the true reality that it didn't happen. Ninazerg is right about the larger internet where you can find the real extremists on the right that stay unbanned. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On February 10 2018 02:10 Danglars wrote: I'm betting that the situations you're talking about is (1) Mohdoo's realistic thoughts on the outcome of the Palestine/Israel event and (2) pretending xDaunt said something about Blacks that he did not. Your controversy on TL (USPOL) is between loudmouths that wish something happened, and bend the truth as far as they can to make it look like it happened, and the true reality that it didn't happen. Ninazerg is right about the larger internet where you can find the real extremists on the right that stay unbanned. Wrong on both accounts. Neither Mohdoo nor xdaunt wrote that. I know you feel victimised by the US pol thread, but neither was written in US pol to my recollection. So I have no idea what are these loudmouths you are refering to something that did or didn't happen. I am only refering to a_flayer's post and his warning thereof. In any case this is probably the wrong place for it I imagine. I'm not even sure if those posters even still post here anymore. Both are/were influential. If anybody wants to know, one was unreportable because he was a staff member and the other was a BW personality (tm) who actually got called out for it by a mod. In both cases it can be assumed a mod was aware. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On February 09 2018 09:44 Twinkle Toes wrote: See JJ that's what I'm talking about. Concentrate on NBA talk or else you're just proving what everyone else is thinking about you. I got banned, I can't remember exactly, 1 week, 2 weeks, 3 months, but got unbanned immediately after I clarified that it was your lie lol. I called you out on it and you lied again. Anyway, my last word on this: this is why I say you are comically funny because you are obviously not mentally well, you can't even hold a normal conversation where people exchange ideas and follow through on the normal process of the exchange. You even lie about something that is easy to refute lol. From NBA drama to TL/nba drama wow! Don't worry JJ, just you do your thing, I love it. User was temp banned for this post. Twinkle Toes was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Seeker. That account was created on 2012-05-15 01:29:00 and had 2522 posts. Reason: I seriously cannot believe we are going through this again... Ugh... Fine... Lets' do this. 1. Why are you unnecessarily provoking JimmyJRaynor? It was out of the blue and completely uncalled for. 2. You don't like the way JJR posts and you disagree with the things he say. Okay, that's fine. You're allowed to have your own opinion. What you're not allowed to do however, is laugh at him while saying he is "mentally ill". That's going too far. 3. Every time we ban you, you PM us back with a long ass explanation of why you should be unbanned. Allow me to save you the trouble. Don't bother this time. We unbanned you and gave you second chances because we want users to change their posting habits. You haven't changed your posting habits. You're still trying to bait him him into a fight. So this time, just accept your ban. 4. The next time you needlessly provoke JJR and try to bait him, not only will your temp ban duration be longer, but you will be banned from posting in the NBA thread. I've looked at his past 40 posts, and not once has he said anything directly to you or tried to provoked you within those posts. So leave him alone and for the love of God, just ignore each other already... On February 10 2018 00:42 duke91 wrote: Don't forget guys to praise Blizzard for this incredibly generous gift! User was temp banned for this post. duke91 was just temp banned for 1 week by Seeker. That account was created on 2014-04-20 12:17:46 and had 1435 posts. Reason: Let's try a week this time. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On February 10 2018 02:04 Dangermousecatdog wrote: To be honest, it's a bit strange where the line is drawn in TL. Someone called for the extermination of muslims and not get banned. Someone wrote that blacks are genetically more predisposed towards crime and not get banned. But heaven forbid if you jokingly say that USA is run by Jews, connected to an article detailing a bizarre law. That's a ban. It's very inconsistent. Like Seeker said, if it doesn't get reported, there's a chance it might not get seen by moderation. Keep in mind that I don't speak for Teamliquid or the Teamliquid moderators, though. Do I always agree with what they deem to be bannable offenses? No, I don't. Do I think there are some posts that should get banned but don't? 100% yes. But the question Ej posed was not about that. My reply was in reference to the specific nature of his question, and me giving a thoughtful reply of how I felt about the situation with antisemitism on the internet. Nowhere did I say that any comments disparaging any group of people was appropriate discourse. If someone said "Black people are more likely to commit crimes because it's in their DNA", of course I'd have something to say about that. I can imagine that the US Politics thread is difficult to moderate because it is always possible to very subtle about presenting a potentially offensive thought or idea. It's difficult to judge the difference between a sincere question and a rhetorical question unless you know the speaker/writer and what their background is. For example, someone might say something along the lines of: "I've read that many large cities in the United States that have large minority populations tend to have the highest poverty rates, highest crime rates, and rank worst in high school graduations, and I'm wondering why this might be." A sincere person may be legitimately asking about this. Maybe they read something somewhere and weren't sure about it. Maybe they just want to get other peoples' thoughts on the matter in order to learn. An ideologue may throw this out as a rhetorical question where they already have their preconceived answer in mind, and are trying to bait people from the opposing side of the political spectrum into having to deal with the statement. There are many reasons to do this, and I won't list them all, but it basically comes down to ego and 'winning arguments on the internet'. The point is, it is easy to use language to create ambiguity about one's true intentions in order to shield themselves from potential criticism. Then, when called out on something, they can say "Well, you misunderstood what I was saying." This argument tactic is used so often that many times, I find myself having to clarify that I'm being sincere when having political discussions, and am not using some rhetorical device to imply something else. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Eugh, that reminded me of how sad I am about the trajectory of the BW scene  . | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On February 10 2018 05:11 LegalLord wrote: Eugh, that reminded me of how sad I am about the trajectory of the BW scene .It feels so strange to realize that BW is really reaching the end of its lifespan, even if it will take 2 years. It just feels as if it always was and always will be there :/ | ||
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