The Automated Ban List - Page 2837

On November 18 2016 05:48 Diabolique wrote:

A nice try, but sorry, it is all just bullshit.

You are calling me an aggressive shitposter and you are not banned for it, so I hope, I will not be banned for calling you an aggressive shitmoderator.

I do not consider myself being a shitposter. I understand, it must be disturbing for some people to see someone else being more intelligent than they are. Like when I calmly and rationally explained in my posts why the only viable way for Korean SC2 will be disbanding Korean teams and dismissing all the TOP players. I did this several weeks before it actually happened and was "crucified" for it and labelled as "doomsayer". I actually believe, this was the real reason, why you have banned me.

I was banned 5 times in my year and half here. The list of my bans is:
- 1x banned after expressing mildly unpolitely about Russia, which is linked to my country history with Russia (hard, but OK ban, I did not protest).
- 1x banned in the discussion after the announcement of the ban of Koreans from international tournaments, against which I strongly protested (OK ban).
- 1x banned for multiple posting, when I did not know that when I answer to 4 different people, I should not answer to them individually in 4 different posts, but put it into one post (after I learnt it, I never did it again).
- 1x banned in the discussion about the ban of Koreans from international tournaments, where all people were full of hatred against Blizzard, "shitposting" against anything what Blizzard was and is doing, and I felt, it was too much and wanted to "protect" Blizzard a bit and as I know from negotiation techniques that you win the best support of a group of people, whose opinion you want to change, when you show at the beginning, that you are part of their group with the same opinion, so I wrote a post saying "Fuck WCS, fuck Blizzard, but we need to be reasonable, Blizzard is trying to do what is the best, we do not know everything, maybe the tournament organizers were threatening to remove SC2 completely from their tournaments and this was the only chance for Blizzard to keep it in, Blizzard is not the enemy ... bla bla bla ...", but a moderator took just the first 4 words from my post and banned me for a week (obviously, I cannot complain about this, although he banned me for a positive, good post, just introduced by these 4 words).
- 1x banned in a thread about Lilbow playing Overwatch, when I wrote that maybe, when everyone thinks, he is playing Overwatch, he can secretly practice SC2 and become good again (this ban was a mistake of another moderator, but there was at least some previous communication and we solved it in a funny way, when I made fun of him at this Automated ban thread)


This is my favorite part :-) Well, I do not think, that the list of bans above makes me a shitposter, or even an "incredibly aggressive, trying to start fights and insult people". I actually believe, that the fact that you are writing it, is a nice proof of you being a true shitmoderator. Except of the obvious fact that I am insulting you. There you are correct, but you fully deserve it.

It is nice that you are giving me advice to go to discuss to other community sites, or even to my toilet. Don't worry, as I mentioned in my post, your ban took away all my passion for SC2 and any interest to discuss at TL. But the problem is not my quote saying that "I did not read the Flash article" (which I have actually read, even when Flash is not my favorite). The problem is your misuse of power. I believe, it will be a much better contribution to this TeamLiquid forum, if you go to moderate some other sites, eventually your own toilet.

But even when we forget all this, correct me, if I am wrong - did you mean by your post that WHEN YOU PERSONALLY CONSIDER SOMEONE BEING A "SHITPOSTER", then YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BAN HIM WHENEVER YOU WANT FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU LIKE? Because if this is your understanding, then the problem is much bigger than making once a mistake with an unjustified ban due to your poor judgement.

I wanted to end my post with writing that I insist on an "impeachment process" about removing you from the moderator function. I wanted to write "It is nothing personal, so please, don't have any hard feelings, I just don't like when incompetent people have powers above their skills." But then I finished reading end of your post, and I see, you are a reasonable guy, I actually do not care if you are or are not a moderator, I personally would never accept such a role anyway, so good that anyone is willing to do that.

By my post, I just wanted to express my feeling. I really liked SC2, I liked TL forums, I was (very reasonably) discussing topics related to it. And then, in one moment, from the thin air - BOOM! I got banned. FOR NOTHING!!! Completely unjustly. So I sat there, based on someone's wrong evaluation of the situation, I didn't have any chance to protest, I didn't have any chance to sue you at court, I didn't have any chance to fight against misuse of power, to fight for "my rights". The only thing, I felt in that moment, was frustration and helplessness. My reaction was that I made sure to never again in my life whitelist TL in my adblocker, but more important, I lost the interest to have anything to do with TL forums and following SC2. Why being part of a community, where incompetent people can punish you for nothing.

And I got the idea that maybe, I am not the first and last person with these feelings after an unjust ban. So I wanted to start this discussion. Maybe, TL should introduce somewhere one thread, where the people, who were just banned, could protest, explain, ask for verification, and eventually immediately be unbanned. The biggest moderator errors could be immediately solved and some extensively aggressive people even there could be permabanned.

On November 18 2016 05:59 LegalLord wrote:
All this just to justify a sucky one-liner for a long writeup here didn't read.

Diabolique was just temp banned for 2 days by MoonBear.

That account was created on 2015-06-09 04:53:08 and had 3751 posts.

Reason: Read this instead then:

User temp banned for shit posting

On November 18 2016 03:03 dAPhREAk wrote:
are you not responding to moonbear because his post is too long too? lol.

that signature. you are not long for this world.

On November 18 2016 03:05 Valiver wrote:
Personally I think anyone who posts "I didn't read" should be at least warned. That's incredibly disrespectful to whatever the thread is and if you didn't read, why did you post? Makes no sense.

On November 18 2016 03:54 tofucake wrote:

You weren't banned by anyone involved in the article at all. You were banned by someone else entirely because you suck at posting.

On November 18 2016 06:09 Diabolique wrote:

If you really think so, then I only hope, that you do not have any moderator powers, because incompetent people should not have this kind of powers over other people. I guess, writing that a book or a movie or an article is bad, is disrespectful towards the author. Should anyone be banned for it? Of course not. Maybe in some mentally handicapped country (no disrespect towards those mentally handicapped, or even if you belong among them).

On November 18 2016 03:05 Valiver wrote:
Personally I think anyone who posts "I didn't read" should be at least warned. That's incredibly disrespectful to whatever the thread is and if you didn't read, why did you post? Makes no sense.

On November 18 2016 06:22 Ansibled wrote:
This is much more than I was expecting.

On November 18 2016 06:20 Skynx wrote:
Btw, please take it to website feedback if you want actions on you to be reconsidered. Here we just shotpost.

On November 18 2016 06:02 dAPhREAk wrote:

the funny thing is that the ban was more than a month ago, and only for two days. he returned from his self-imposed exile to post this.

On November 18 2016 02:01 tofucake wrote:

People can be banned for posts in forums you can't see, PMs, or just because it's been collectively decided by the mod team that a person is terrible, as well as for things not even on TL, like other social media posts. What caused his ban may very well exist, but you just aren't looking in the right place, or maybe you can't see it at all.