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peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 11:55:10
August 14 2013 11:54 GMT
#601
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xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
August 14 2013 12:25 GMT
#602
On August 14 2013 20:54 peacenl wrote:
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Matcha ?
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peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
August 14 2013 12:48 GMT
#603
yep :p
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4015 Posts
August 14 2013 13:02 GMT
#604
Are those lots of different kinds of matcha? I'd still like to get into matcha at some point, but the stuff I ordered just seems extremely bitter, I don't know what it's supposed to be like...
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 15:22:01
August 14 2013 15:16 GMT
#605
Yes, they range from basic, royal, premium, superior and imperial.

Some contain white matcha (the left ones), which makes them more lighter brown-ish. And a few on the left contain black matcha, which makes them dark green almost dark brown. The grades of white and dark matcha are usually basic, which makes them robust in flavor. Might not be so bad if you're used to dark roasted coffee.

The best ones imperal and royal have the most vivid green color (3rd and 4th from the right). These are very different from normal grades because they are not bitter, sweet, very smooth or mild in flavor and have the highest concentration of l-theanine.

I took all grades because I really want to be able to make a good comparison after I've been out of it a while. Even though the low grades are bitter. To combat that I usually mix them as a smoothie with fruit or buy them with flavorings such as caramel. You'll still know it's basic quality, it just makes the whole experience a whole lot smoother.

I always test if the water can come in contact with my skin without it hurting. About 60 degrees, not any lower though.
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- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
August 14 2013 23:04 GMT
#606
On August 15 2013 00:16 peacenl wrote:
Yes, they range from basic, royal, premium, superior and imperial.

Some contain white matcha (the left ones), which makes them more lighter brown-ish. And a few on the left contain black matcha, which makes them dark green almost dark brown. The grades of white and dark matcha are usually basic, which makes them robust in flavor. Might not be so bad if you're used to dark roasted coffee.

The best ones imperal and royal have the most vivid green color (3rd and 4th from the right). These are very different from normal grades because they are not bitter, sweet, very smooth or mild in flavor and have the highest concentration of l-theanine.

I took all grades because I really want to be able to make a good comparison after I've been out of it a while. Even though the low grades are bitter. To combat that I usually mix them as a smoothie with fruit or buy them with flavorings such as caramel. You'll still know it's basic quality, it just makes the whole experience a whole lot smoother.

I always test if the water can come in contact with my skin without it hurting. About 60 degrees, not any lower though.

Thanks for the information. Matcha is something I'd like to investigate a bit more before taking the dive.

Where did you buy these, btw?
FlowerBunny
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden187 Posts
August 14 2013 23:29 GMT
#607
Can u do the Gong-fu brewing method with any kind of tea? Or is it for some sort of teas? I have some Pai-mu-tan that I really enjoy, what you think about trying Gong-fu with that?
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 15 2013 03:03 GMT
#608
On August 15 2013 08:29 sGDaevil wrote:
Can u do the Gong-fu brewing method with any kind of tea? Or is it for some sort of teas? I have some Pai-mu-tan that I really enjoy, what you think about trying Gong-fu with that?


I'd do gongfu with any high quality tea -- all it is (despite what people make it out to be) is that it's just a high leaf to water ratio (i'd do 5g/100 ml minimum, but I've hard 3g/100 ml for some other types of teas and i'm not a big red/white tea drinker, so i can't help). The other parts to it are just complementing the fact that you're using a lot of leaves.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 03 2013 13:23 GMT
#609
Gotta be really careful when using a lot of leaves. Probably thinking 15-20 seconds steeps, sometimes 5 seconds. Camellia Sinensis (Quebec based) has really good instructions for each tea. If you don't buy your tea from them, look for a tea that looks similar and follow those instructions.
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TheIlluminated
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway35 Posts
September 03 2013 13:41 GMT
#610
On August 09 2013 07:23 RuiBarbO wrote:
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On August 09 2013 06:36 peacenl wrote:
I really craved some good matcha again because it helps me relax and meditate for hours, so I bought about 10 bags of quality Matcha. Will definitely upload the pics when the goods arrive.


Ooooooooooooooooooooooh... I'm jealous.

A friend of mine gave me several bags of some tea that she brought from England. I think it was a Yorkshire brand... Not sure, though. Anyway, it was some of the best black tea I've had. Them British people do know their teas, that's for sure.


I second that, Typhoo is also pretty okay, but Yorkshire is way beyond.
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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 16:25:07
September 03 2013 16:23 GMT
#611
I'd love to see an an analysis of different brew techniques in the OP, or in the discussion.

I've heard such varying accounts, be it in books, in-person, or online. The general White, Green, Yellow, Oolong, and Black 'rules' are good rules-of-thumb, but specific teas often require different temperature and brew times!

I also wonder if things like elevation and even humidity may effect brewing techniques.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 03 2013 20:07 GMT
#612
I think the general theme is that you want it to be as hot as possible without getting bitter ;o

Depending on the tea, that can change.

Other things that affect brewing is how tightly the leaves are rolled up. If you do multiple short steeps, it means the first steep is actually going to be longer than the second, if you don't want it to be bitter, since the leaves have to open up.

I've found there are some teas which I like much more when I use a lot of leaves and a short brew time, as opposed to just brewing a small amount of leaves for a long time... Especially with teas that have to steeped at a relatively low temperature, it's best for the steep time to be short so you don't lose too much heat.

General rules for the categories are good starting points I guess. I think a lot of the more trendy shops will try to buy teas that conform to those guidelines to lower the learning curve for their customers / not get people thinking the tea is bad when they mess it up. A legit tea shop that tells you exactly the place they bought it from and when and everything else rather than just telling you a trendy name, though, is most likely going to tell you exactly how to make it properly, so don't bother with the rule of thumb.
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eXeYukon
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
45 Posts
September 05 2013 21:21 GMT
#613
I just learned so much about tea. Because YES it's more important than homework awesome thread!
Since I live in the midwest tea isnt as common but some good ol green tea hits the spot.
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 21:56:16
September 05 2013 21:54 GMT
#614
On September 04 2013 01:23 tili wrote:
I'd love to see an an analysis of different brew techniques in the OP, or in the discussion.

I've heard such varying accounts, be it in books, in-person, or online. The general White, Green, Yellow, Oolong, and Black 'rules' are good rules-of-thumb, but specific teas often require different temperature and brew times!

I also wonder if things like elevation and even humidity may effect brewing techniques.

Every once in a while I ruin the first oolong and pu erh steep because it was 5 degrees Celcius too hot. It's really tricky to try and get it right the first time with new young tea, especially if there's an oily layer (or film if you will) on the leaf it tends to get burned more quickly, resulting in quite sour and bitter tea.

Every half year I visit the Pu Erh ambassador of Europe, who gives me tips on the new harvest of Pu Erh while we drink it. But yeah, even she throws away the first steep in an almost religious fashion. This usually helps a lot, because the second steep is almost always spot on if you carry out a small smelling test on the first one. And of course, it seems to get rid of any sourness or biterness resulting from the temporary burning (and the accompanied chemical flavor response) that happens when introducing steaming hot water to fresh leaves (what I sometimes call scaring the leaves).
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
September 27 2013 04:11 GMT
#615
Does anyone in here like Irish Breakfast? The stuff at Tealuxe is really, really good, and I like Twinings too. Only problem is that sometimes the bitterness feels a bit excessive and I get an almost paper-like taste in my mouth. Any suggestions for how to mitigate this, or do I just need to suck it up?
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
September 27 2013 04:45 GMT
#616
Add goji berries.
They can buffer bitterness.
Or, steep for less time.
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RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
September 27 2013 12:52 GMT
#617
On September 27 2013 13:45 Trozz wrote:
Add goji berries.
They can buffer bitterness.
Or, steep for less time.


Oooh. Interesting. Now to find some goji berries... Maybe Whole Foods will have the solution.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
September 27 2013 13:22 GMT
#618
I read the thread name as 'tea euthanasia'.
oh, hai
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
September 27 2013 14:10 GMT
#619
I've found myself making more herbal tea's with some things from my garden. Lemon balm (I think that's the English name), different kinds of mint leaves, licorice root (or powder), ginger and a little bit of lemon juice works really well together in different combinations. I do love mulberry tea as well but I've had a hard time finding it lately.
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
September 27 2013 15:10 GMT
#620
Over 10 years of drinking tea (pretty regularly) and Ive only had the "normal stuff" :S
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