EPT"Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section."
...because we like money.
Idra Banned for 90 Days - Page 79
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NPHarris
91 Posts
"Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section." ...because we like money. | ||
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Lunat!c
122 Posts
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whiterabb1t
Belgium681 Posts
On May 09 2011 01:17 BLinD-RawR wrote: hes been permd 3 times and his other accounts have also been permd. a perm gets reversed faster than a 90 day ban. means its not a PERM ban then, does it... | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
On May 09 2011 00:56 KuMa. wrote: It's just ridiculous and a wrong decision by TL to ban him for 90 more days, imho. +1 I simply don't understand why he continues to get away with this crap. He should've been perma-banned until he was willing to come back and ask for a second chance. Let him try to convince the mods that he should regain posting privileges. Until he's willing to act like a responsible human being, he doesn't deserve to post. IMHO. | ||
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Deja Thoris
South Africa646 Posts
On May 09 2011 01:18 Arkan wrote: Im fairly new to this community forum, but i've been reading long enough and I honestly think the TL admins should really cool down with the whole idrA controversy. Each time they ban him like this it creates a whole tidal wave of posts and needless attention to something thats nothing more then just smack talk. In a odd way each time admins ban him it just widens his fan base >.< Also if TL, and other big SC communities, wish to promote eSports this sort of banter should be tolerated to a certain extent (Especially within player fanclubs). It helps fuel competition and is within many sports today. I understand this is TL's website and they can make and enforce their own rules, but really the site has grown a lot from what it was 10 years ago and they arent a small private community any more. However, some people such as a certain TL member on last weeks "State of the Game" have an extreme sense of entitlement and believe that you must not make a post unless it directly contributes to the community. This type of thinking, and I realize this does not represent everyone on TL, doesnt really help the growth of eSports. Hes already held to a lower standard then the rest of posters. If most people posted shit like him they would have been perma banned long ago. The mods have to moderate his stuff otherwise they get the "IdrA did it and got away with it" routine. As to not making posts unless they contribute, its an excellent rule in certain sections of the site. It improves the signal to noise ratio and stops silly one liner replies and memes becoming the norm. | ||
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LooseMoose
United States184 Posts
On May 09 2011 01:22 GeorgeForeman wrote: +1 I simply don't understand why he continues to get away with this crap. He should've been perma-banned until he was willing to come back and ask for a second chance. Let him try to convince the mods that he should regain posting privileges. Until he's willing to act like a responsible human being, he doesn't deserve to post. IMHO. You realize the post you quoted disagrees with you, right? | ||
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Halcyondaze
United States509 Posts
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aguy38
131 Posts
On May 09 2011 01:18 NPHarris wrote: I lold. Not much more you can do here. "Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section." ...because we like money. They removed their ad from his stream page. | ||
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whiterabb1t
Belgium681 Posts
His stream still attracts people to TL, people who advertisers pay for to reach | ||
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
On May 09 2011 01:18 NPHarris wrote: I lold. Not much more you can do here. "Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section." ...because we like money. the most hilarious thing about this thread is how many Idra fans actually think that TL NEEDS Idra | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On May 09 2011 01:26 Halcyondaze wrote: Idra is not most people. He says what he thinks. I don't think he did any harm by what he did, it is just who he is. I am disappointed that he is banned, especially for this long. Is there any way that this could be nullified before the 90 days? No. Idra himself said he didnt regret his decision. | ||
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phanto
Sweden708 Posts
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Bakkendepao
Netherlands185 Posts
On May 09 2011 01:26 Halcyondaze wrote: Idra is not most people. He says what he thinks. I don't think he did any harm by what he did, it is just who he is. I am disappointed that he is banned, especially for this long. Is there any way that this could be nullified before the 90 days? I think he isnt going to get unbanned, TL's mods are very discreet and likey continue the 90 days ban. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49497 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:53 BLinD-RawR wrote: 90 days is enough for all parties to forget about the incident. 2 days for idra,88 days for the fans. I'll quote this post because it needs to be said again. | ||
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Bahamamama
Germany26 Posts
The right decision to protect your staff! | ||
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TheImmortal
Hong Kong84 Posts
On May 09 2011 01:26 Halcyondaze wrote: Idra is not most people. He says what he thinks. I don't think he did any harm by what he did, it is just who he is. I am disappointed that he is banned, especially for this long. Is there any way that this could be nullified before the 90 days? saying anything directly like that would have already caused him to be sued through defamation in the real society. if you are held accountable for what you say in real life, why not here? | ||
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shaNk
Canada124 Posts
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JBrown08
Canada306 Posts
That is nice and all, but it is still a view on the site and indirect free advertising for Teamliquid provided by Idra's stream. It is in teamliquid's interest to embed Idra's stream (branding and all that other fancy marketing jazz; just because they don't get direct ad value from the page doesn't mean they get no value), and if it were not for his direct request that it be removed I would be fine with this decision. However Idra has personally asked that his stream not be listed on this site while he is banned and they are disregarding his wishes. Maybe they should re-work the stream link to just be a link to JustinTV and not to an embeded teamliquid page in the interest of transparency and accountability. *On a side note, if a person really did not want their stream to appear on teamliquid can justinTV file a DMCA takedown notice for reproducing copyrighted material? I am unclear how that would actually work for their streaming service. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49497 Posts
and no because if a person did not want TL to not list his stream he would tell them to not list his stream,why would he need JTV to file a DMCA. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On May 08 2011 07:46 damod wrote: there is also zero proof cruncher was not watching idras stream while playing, but the differense between idras side and cruncher side is that idra has evidence, testifiers, and cruncher only has his words, not to mention that cruncher also have a potential motive to do it. the fact you are so absolutly sure cruncher did not stream cheated idra means you are one of two things: 1. you really hate idra, therefore you only stand for cruncher's defence and ignore IdrA's side in this issue (stateing there was no proof of cruncher cheating, but forgetting there is no proof of him not cheating, even though others provided evidense and testified) 2. you know cruncher personally, therefore trusting his word blindly even though he has no sollid evidense. What the flying fuck are you talking about? There is also zero proof that Cruncher was not watching IdrA's stream... that's fucking cute. Let's ban everyone on TL since while there's no proof that they're cheaters, there's no proof that they aren't cheaters either. You need solid evidence before you punish someone, there is no solid evidence against Cruncher. What is IdrA's evidence and testifiers(what the fuck?)? Who are these testifiers and why are they relevant? What is his evidence? People stream snipe all the fucking time, TL doesn't really consider this inappropriate so in this regard, Cruncher did nothing wrong. IdrA has been sniped by his teammates, a lot of people stream snipe each other. Outside of him stream sniping, we have no evidence that he actually cheated. IdrA remained consistent with his style during the IPL and Cruncher countered it. It wasn't something uncharacteristic from IdrA that couldn't possibly have been predicted and wasn't something astoundingly unorthodox from Cruncher. You don't have anything. No one has anything. IdrA misbehaved and was temp-banned for it. Stream sniping is not considered an issue as of now. | ||
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