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On February 25 2011 02:38 shell wrote:I would love to be able to select my favourite SC2 players based on looks, but guess what they are all dudes..  I would love to be able to say "my favourite protoss is that girl with the huge breast.. damn she's hot.." but i can't.. i guess i envy gay sc2 nerds :D
Without actually knowing for sure, I doubt they choose their favorite SC2 player based purely on looks. Looks might help though, I don't know. However both straight and gay, female and male fans are known for getting some serious nerdcrushes when seeing their favorite progamers perform. Luckily we all get to experience that, no matter what gender or sexual orientation we have! xD
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On February 25 2011 02:18 wxwx wrote:
I am straight but the thought of putting my tongue in a dank vagina disgusts me. I have only got myself to do it once and it was naaaasty. This doesn't mean I'm gay does it?
im sorry man but it means your a flaming homosexual... no j/k.. i do however have questions for our homosexual TL brethren but before that a bit about myself that might explain my point of view:
I was born and raised in the Netherlands, in a city that could be considered "country" i guess (like texas i suppose?) so people around there werent especially open minded. (they werent gay bashing racists though) I had the luck to be raised by intelligent parents who had seen their share of the world, and were very open minded. I didn't have gay friends or even really knew gay people when growing up. After I moved to The Hague (one of the largest cities in the Netherlands) to continue my studies I started in a school that has a decent amount of gays. So in these years I came into a bit more contact with these people. I have befriended a few of them and got to know them better. Anyhow, all of this together brought me to the following opinion:
I really don't care if you prefer dick over pussy, but I don't neccesarily wanna hear about it. Sure you can tell me about your new boyfriend or even that you got laid last night, but still, i'd still prefer it to be a bit low on the sexual details.
There are things however, that still really amaze and sometimes even annoy me. For example, I really don't get the, as they were described, "fabolous" gays. (the that wears pink tights and are friends with paris hilton) I mean, I understand that if you have been in the closet for 20 years and just came out you can be a bit over enthusiastic but still. Most of my friends and family are pretty well educated, open minded people who have no problem with gays at all, except for the flamboyant ones. It makes me wonder:
Is it really beneficial for the integration of gay people to have such a large group of gays that seem to be bent on showing how different they are from the rest? Because to me it seems that this will only make it take longer.
Another thing that annoys me is people who try to prove their open mindedness by reminding everyone of how okay they are with gay people. But i guess its better then being a gay basher. Well anyhow, those were my thoughts in a nutshell and I was kinda wondering what people thought about it.
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On February 25 2011 02:27 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 02:18 wxwx wrote:
I am straight but the thought of putting my tongue in a dank vagina disgusts me. I have only got myself to do it once and it was naaaasty. This doesn't mean I'm gay does it? Depends if you'd rather the smooth silky skin of a penis parting your lips.
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On February 25 2011 00:50 shell wrote:
What i'm saying is that i much prefer to see a friend of mine come out of the closet and have a partner and someone to love then spend his life unhappy and alone. I don't care if you are gay, i will hang out with you if you are a cool dude. It's simple and easy.
Nowadays is quite normal to find a gays in Lisbon and they don't bother me at all.
Prejudice against gays is wrong like it his against race, color, religion or any other minority.
great post overall, but this part really got to me. I wish more people in the world had this attitude 
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Really cool thread, it is nice to see people can ask what they're curious about what gay people think and get them answered. It lets people get more insight about gay people which will in the end make the world a better place as those prejudices will be closer to being wiped. I still think you guys are missing a lot as females are the greatest thing in the world. Those curves drive me insane, and I noticed that the reason why men like sports car is the same, those curves....Especially of the Ferrari, oh man thats a great car.
I'm a straight male, and as most of the straight male do, I am sexually attracted to the idea of lesbians. Why do you think this happens? There are also studies which show that the girth of the penis is 25% more when watching girl on girl action rather than straight hetero action. I think the idea of woman not needing man could attract us, as that would signal us that they would be much more suitable mate rather than a woman who can't defend her and the children when the man is away? (evolution ftw) But it could also be that 1 woman=good more woman=excellent! . What is your take on this?
I myself don't like woman who pretend they are some sort of lady, princess or something, I like woman who curse, swear and shit or just don't try to act like they are born in a palace and trying to the conform to the highest morals of all time and expect you to act like you are a knight in a shining armor trying to take her from the castle.
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I was raised a catholic, and anything homosexual is against God's LAW.
I bet fags can't even play sc2, cause all they are thinking about is sucking that fat cock, or receiving that cock in their bums
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On February 25 2011 02:52 B.I.G. wrote:
Is it really beneficial for the integration of gay people to have such a large group of gays that seem to be bent on showing how different they are from the rest? Because to me it seems that this will only make it take longer.
I think a lot of the reason why gay people form groups like that is because of just how hard it can be to find other gay people and how comforting it can be to have a group of people who are just like "hey, there are tons of people like us, you don't have to feel alone." Also this is just conducive to actually finding a partner.
A big problem I'm sure me and I KNOW for a fact tons of other gay people have is that they fall for their straight friends (statistically, there are just way more of them) and when you realize that it's just never ever gonna happen, it can be heartbreaking. It's really cool to join a group or club of other gay people and not only know you're in a place where you could potentially meet someone who is the same as you (rather than wondering "is he gay? is he bi? would he experiment?" etc.) Not only that but I know that these kinds of groups help raise awareness for stuff like gay teens being bullied, gay teen phone lines, gay pride parades etc. Not only that but often times they are just really nice places to relax, meet other people, watch movies about gay people. Really, it can help you feel like there's nothing wrong with being yourself when you join a group like that, and how can that be a bad thing?
Also I kind of agree with your statement earlier about 'not wanting to hear about it' to an extent. I think it should apply to everyone, regardless of sexuality. For example I don't really care if a friend is like "yeah I had a fun night with my gf last night " or something like that; but suppose it was something like "I ate out my gf's pussy for like 2 hours last night, she was leaking everywhere... etc." then it's not only really raunchy, but really kinda nasty, and weird to think about your friends doing that kind of stuff :/. It should just be common sense not to share that kind of really raunchy crap to your friends or whatever, regardless of your sexuality.
That being said though, I still think people should have a problem with stuff like say, gay people holding hands in public, talking about your same-sex bf/gf in public and stuff like that. Because honestly, straight people do those things all the time and it's not considered weird or rude or anything. If a straight guy at work can tell an anecdote about his wife during lunch break, I'd like to think a lesbian could do the same thing about her girlfriend.
hope that clears some stuff up
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On February 25 2011 04:40 teacherWISH wrote:
I was raised a catholic, and anything homosexual is against God's LAW.
I bet fags can't even play sc2, cause all they are thinking about is sucking that fat cock, or receiving that cock in their bums
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I have a gay friend that cooks me dinner when I come over. CHEAAAA <3
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After the Gays like to be Incontrol, 33days of vag and Nada's body thread Im pretty sure 50% of TL has converted to homosexuality so your not alone.
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I'm straight right now but I'd totally go gay for Bisu, Tasteless, or Hyung Joon. Does that count?
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On February 25 2011 00:50 shell wrote:
omg i loled so much when i saw this thread because i never taught there would be gay gamers(no pun intended and i'm sorry if that ofends someone), tl.net is really amazing since you can talk about almost everything, even sexuality, politics, economics.. etc..
Now about the subject i'm not gay but in the last couple of years i have been "exposed" to some guys who are gays and became friends with them in a heterosexual way of course :D and that helped me accept gay people has normal people. Not that i ever considerer myself a homofic or did anything to hurt a gay person.
Now when i grew up even tho my country is not homofobic in a agressive way, it's always there you know.. and i grew up calling my friends gay always joking around and making fun of it etc.. and they did the same to me,.. but now that i am older and wiser i can look to the struggle it must be for every gay people in the world and i simpatize with it and feel sorry for some that can't get out of the closet. What i'm saying is that i much prefer to see a friend of mine come out of the closet and have a partner and someone to love then spend his life unhappy and alone. I don't care if you are gay, i will hang out with you if you are a cool dude. It's simple and easy.
Nowadays is quite normal to find a gays in Lisbon and they don't bother me at all.
Prejudice against gays is wrong like it his against race, color, religion or any other minority.
Now gay people that enjoy games is new for me, i after reading your post i feel like gay people can be nerds of everything. And there is gays everywhere in everything, man and girl.
This is a good thread and i hope some guys and girls find whatever help/info they need to improve their lives!
Haha, as a gay guy myself, I never expected to find such a large gay community on TL. I knew that TL was liberal/libertarian overall and tolerated homosexuality and the mods are always very good at pushing out homophobes, racists, and even sexism. But most gay gamers, myself included do not seem interested in playing video games for a living D: However, it would not be surprising if we had gay progamers.
On February 25 2011 07:14 hejakev wrote:
I'm straight right now but I'd totally go gay for Bisu, Tasteless, or Hyung Joon. Does that count?
Before I convinced myself I was gay, I convinced myself that I am gay for Bisu. But on a more serious note, this most likely shows you have no problem judging guys.
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Is it weird as a gay man i want to be penetrated by large animals? This also correlates into my attraction for men. I have very large attractions to large men and even some starcraft players. For example, iNcontrol and ret, i think about fantasies with them, and they are penetrating my hole while i scream like a little girl. Almost every night i dream about large men or like bears being "with" me. I want to know is this normal or am i a weird type of gay man? Actually i stay up very late into the night listening to iNcontrols soothing voice. Almost every time i see a "bear" in public i get a boner. I feel like i'm in highschool again.I really need some help
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On February 25 2011 07:43 sharkmonger13 wrote:
Is it weird as a gay man i want to be penetrated by large animals? This also correlates into my attraction for men. I have very large attractions to large men and even some starcraft players. For example, iNcontrol and ret, i think about fantasies with them, and they are penetrating my hole while i scream like a little girl. Almost every night i dream about large men or like bears being "with" me. I want to know is this normal or am i a weird type of gay man? Actually i stay up very late into the night listening to iNcontrols soothing voice. Almost every time i see a "bear" in public i get a boner. I feel like i'm in highschool again.I really need some help
Nope. Not weird at all.
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I just hope no one in this thread looks down about themselves and/or others because of the lifestyles they live. If people dont understand then they can fuck off. One honest thing I thing I have a problem with is that i will catch myself saying like, "god that was gay" when discribing something that was boring/annoying. In no way shape or form mean it to be "oh that was homosexual" as I am an extremely open minded individual. So my question basically is that when people say that, does it offend gay people?
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Huk is hot <3.
I can say for me personally, people saying "gay" (as in "that's so gay") or "fag" *does* bother me. I don't actively call people out or anything for it, but I just cringe whenever I hear it. I totally understand that people don't mean it as a gay slur, but the origins of the word are that. I wish it didn't bother me, but it does. We're an in age still (at least in America) where LGBTs are fighting for equal rights and against discrimination, and until that's more equal, I think it's a lot harder to let little stuff like that go. I mean, what if you said to somebody "that's so black"?
It's been really tough for me to find a boyfriend. I do not meet any of the stereotypes of being gay at all. I love watching sports, don't like interior decorating, don't have a lisp or walk weird, hate fashion, and like metal music. Every guy I meet is usually either straight, not my type, or not interested in me. It's ridiculous. Luckily, I'm really happy being single, and feel no reason to force myself into a relationship for the sake of being in one.
I guarantee you that there are more gay progamers out there than you would think. There are just too many of them for it not to be the case. It might be a smaller percentage than in the general population, but they are there.
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On February 25 2011 02:52 B.I.G. wrote:
There are things however, that still really amaze and sometimes even annoy me. For example, I really don't get the, as they were described, "fabolous" gays. (the that wears pink tights and are friends with paris hilton) I mean, I understand that if you have been in the closet for 20 years and just came out you can be a bit over enthusiastic but still. Most of my friends and family are pretty well educated, open minded people who have no problem with gays at all, except for the flamboyant ones. It makes me wonder:
Is it really beneficial for the integration of gay people to have such a large group of gays that seem to be bent on showing how different they are from the rest? Because to me it seems that this will only make it take longer.
This makes the assumption that it is bad to be different. I'm from the U.S. myself, so I can only speak about the way things are supposed to be here; I can't comment on the Netherlands. In the U.S., however, the idea is that we're made stronger because of how different we are. We're supposed to be accepting of other cultures. Traditionally this meant immigrants from various countries around the world not being forced to give up their culture and assimilate. Instead the United States had (and has) a sort of multicultural policy. Obviously this wasn't always how things went down, but this was supposed to be the underlying philosophy, and is still today with most openminded people.
The same logic can and should be applied to the gay community and other communities that have their own subcultures. Some gay people, not all, but some, are that flamboyant. It's not a bad thing to be like that; it's just who they are.
The real problem is that people aren't comfortable with that attitude and behavior yet because they aren't familiar with it. Most people don't know someone that flamboyantly gay. Once people become more and more exposed to gay people, both flamboyant and otherwise, throughout the years, the less they'll be offended or the less they'll think it strange or unnatural.
So, in short, I would say it is absolutely beneficial for those that are flamboyantly gay to be as open as they would like to be. It is never a good thing to try and deny or suppress who you are.
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On February 25 2011 08:18 BarryWhite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 02:52 B.I.G. wrote:
There are things however, that still really amaze and sometimes even annoy me. For example, I really don't get the, as they were described, "fabolous" gays. (the that wears pink tights and are friends with paris hilton) I mean, I understand that if you have been in the closet for 20 years and just came out you can be a bit over enthusiastic but still. Most of my friends and family are pretty well educated, open minded people who have no problem with gays at all, except for the flamboyant ones. It makes me wonder:
Is it really beneficial for the integration of gay people to have such a large group of gays that seem to be bent on showing how different they are from the rest? Because to me it seems that this will only make it take longer.
This makes the assumption that it is bad to be different. I'm from the U.S. myself, so I can only speak about the way things are supposed to be here; I can't comment on the Netherlands. In the U.S., however, the idea is that we're made stronger because of how different we are. We're supposed to be accepting of other cultures. Traditionally this meant immigrants from various countries around the world not being forced to give up their culture and assimilate. Instead the United States had (and has) a sort of multicultural policy. Obviously this wasn't always how things went down, but this was supposed to be the underlying philosophy, and is still today with most openminded people. The same logic can and should be applied to the gay community and other communities that have their own subcultures. Some gay people, not all, but some, are that flamboyant. It's not a bad thing to be like that; it's just who they are. The real problem is that people aren't comfortable with that attitude and behavior yet because they aren't familiar with it. Most people don't know someone that flamboyantly gay. Once people become more and more exposed to gay people, both flamboyant and otherwise, throughout the years, the less they'll be offended or the less they'll think it strange or unnatural. So, in short, I would say it is absolutely beneficial for those that are flamboyantly gay to be as open as they would like to be. It is never a good thing to try and deny or suppress who you are.
I totally agree, I think the more people get accustomed to the growing gay community, the better the treatment of the gay community will get. I hope some gay progamers come out and do amazingly in tournaments. That'd be awesome
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Quick question TL. If I like Bridget, does that mean I am straight for Bridget?
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On February 25 2011 11:15 Shiragaku wrote:
Quick question TL. If I like Bridget, does that mean I am straight for Bridget?
It's terminological, but in my personal lexicon - you are str8 for someone if your orientation is samesex directed but there is a small set of personal acquaintances and/or pop/movie/whatever idols who happen to boil your lollies. If it's a wider group than that (or possibly, a smaller group, but you actually act on your desires sufficiently regularly), then I'd say you should wo/man up and id as bi.
Personal choice tho. I'm a big fan of calling people what they want.
Tangentially, love the name Bridget. Wish I was called Bridget.
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