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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.

For regular posters, don't quote the trolls.
jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
February 24 2011 10:15 GMT
#781
Tyler is the sexiest progamer! The fact that he's a beast of a Protoss helps though.

Gay or straight, Incontrol would be great if you were very sad and in need of cuddles. Imagine the hugs!
#1 Kennigit fanboy/stalker
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 10:32:24
February 24 2011 10:31 GMT
#782
On February 24 2011 18:59 R1CH wrote:
I wouldn't really call those first world countries, at least not on the level that South Korea is.


Whoops, I missed a word The current terms are developed and developing, been a while since I saw "first world".
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hiawatha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 10:38:58
February 24 2011 10:32 GMT
#783
On February 24 2011 19:11 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 19:04 hiawatha wrote:
Does any social or cultural reason exist as to why South Korea is especially homophobic?

I would like to say religion but when looking at South America, the answer appears to be otherwise. This is most likely a poor, but it may have something to do with conservative Confucian values?


This is why I'm confused, usually religion is the culprit but as far as South Korea goes they are relatively irreligious iirc (Compared to say, the USA or South America). How does homophobia in South Korea compare to Japan, another first world, East Asian, relatively irreligious nation?

edit: spelling
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
February 24 2011 11:15 GMT
#784
Wikipedia has a good article on it. It seems the mandatory military service and the amount of importance placed in it in Korean society (especially in regards to employment) means that anyone who is openly gay is basically committing career suicide. When there is such little public visibility and awareness it places increased pressure on those that actually are gay to remain hidden.

It wouldn't surprise me if there were several gay or bisexual pro-gamers in Korea who simply don't acknowledge it, especially when Korean friendships between males seems a lot more intimate than in the West. What some people would consider homosexual behaviour in the West would be perfectly normal between two close friends in Korea.

But yeah, I can't see it being a good environment for a gay non-Korean pro-gamer.
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billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 11:40:32
February 24 2011 11:39 GMT
#785
oops, quoted an old post
theslayer922
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada304 Posts
February 24 2011 12:05 GMT
#786
God, I love you man. Im personally not gay myself but probably straight maybe bisexual though it doesn't really matter as i'll know if I find someone I really like. Anyways back on topic, I can totally see what your getting at, and your fricken awesome. Finding other people who can understand you is important, and honestly I commend you on that. In other news, how about finding some brood war players :3
In the Donger I Trust
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 12:57:06
February 24 2011 12:56 GMT
#787
On February 24 2011 19:11 valheru wrote:
Btw I would be interested on other countries perceptions of Australia's homophobia or lack thereof. Personally I think we are kinda not great, a study was in The Age about a national racism survey... with dissappointing results


Yes saw that one, it is disappointing but our country suffers from a big infestation of meat heads. Racism and homophobia are something we're gonna suffer from as a population for a long time. There are alot of really awesome people of course, but I would say the majority are actually intolerant xenophobes.

It's not even religiously fueled. Christianity is the major religion in our country, but even then not many people follow it. Exhibit A: This ... The comments are just disgusting.
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 13:03:01
February 24 2011 12:59 GMT
#788
On February 24 2011 20:15 R1CH wrote:
Wikipedia has a good article on it. It seems the mandatory military service and the amount of importance placed in it in Korean society (especially in regards to employment) means that anyone who is openly gay is basically committing career suicide. When there is such little public visibility and awareness it places increased pressure on those that actually are gay to remain hidden.

It wouldn't surprise me if there were several gay or bisexual pro-gamers in Korea who simply don't acknowledge it, especially when Korean friendships between males seems a lot more intimate than in the West. What some people would consider homosexual behaviour in the West would be perfectly normal between two close friends in Korea.

But yeah, I can't see it being a good environment for a gay non-Korean pro-gamer.


Did you hear what happened to WeRRa? That was one confused and unprofessional South Korean dude that traumatized someone and caused a team to break up. Link to thread here.
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
SilverWolfe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 13:59:44
February 24 2011 13:07 GMT
#789
On February 24 2011 12:37 101toss wrote:
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On September 13 2010 18:40 kr_priest wrote:
I don't know what's going on in this thread but apparently according to many of my opponents I'm gay..and my tanks are gay, and my marauders, and my marines, and my vikings...

According to my opponents, I'm a faggot who should play a real race.

I'm curious to see how gay TLer's react to typical BM that consists of "gay" and "fag". Do you just shrug it off? Or do you bother to report it?


Generally I'm just like "yes I'm homosexual, thanks for noticing " and proceed to stomp them... because generally the only time someone does that to you is when you use some 'gay' strat they don't know how to counter properly and you are in the process of winning
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jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
February 24 2011 13:29 GMT
#790
It does not bother me at all when people say something is "gay" e.g. it's bad or whatever. I know it's just something some people say - all my friends say it often and I even say it from time to time, from hearing it so much.

I disregard BM ingame regardless of what is said.
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SilverWolfe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 14:01:21
February 24 2011 13:57 GMT
#791
On February 24 2011 19:05 amd098 wrote:
who doesnt have a crush on incontrol??


ewww too big and gruff looking.... I'm all about HuK and his pretty hair <3

I kinda freaked out when this happened...
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On February 24 2011 22:29 jarrydesque wrote:
It does not bother me at all when people say something is "gay" e.g. it's bad or whatever. I know it's just something some people say - all my friends say it often and I even say it from time to time, from hearing it so much.


I actually kind of have this problem myself... ever since I came out to most of my friends they don't say "gay" in a derogatory way as much, but I still say it sometimes just because SO many people say it and now it's just become a bad habit... now I'm just trying to force myself to say things are 'stupid' lest I appear to hate myself
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dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
February 24 2011 15:15 GMT
#792
On August 27 2010 21:38 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 21:15 Kennigit wrote:
Why do some gay guys talk with a lisp and have feminine mannerisms? Is this put on or natural?


What a great question.

Super fucking hard to answer.

There's 2 parts.

At first, when you're young, you have no control over these mannerisms. I don't know where we get them from, but many of us have them from a very very young age. I myself was very feminine when i was pre-12 years old. My nickname in elementary school was "girly-boy". (which, while mean, didn't offend me all that much because at the time i considered women to be superior to men. GOD i was gay. lol)

Once i got about 10 years old i realized what 'gay' was and realized that i was acting pretty fucking gay, and started to develop a complex about it. I went from being a loud/out-going awesome kid to a depressing one pretty quickly. By the age of 13 i was riddled with many depression and anxiety disorders. I dropped out of highschool at the age of 14 cause of all those issues.

I would sometimes hear what would come out of my mouth, and i would close my eyes and wish i ceased to exist because of how embarrassed i was. The stupid part is by the time i dropped out of highschool, i had learned to drop most of the mannerisms (but not all). I wasn't that flamboyant.

Other kids aren't so lucky. They have no control no matter how much they try to hide it. They're doomed to relentless teasing and prejudice, much worse than any other kinds i've seen in school. One of the flamers at my school was attacked by some guys in the locker room who thought he was checking them out. They didn't beat hm up to bad but they all pissed on him in the showers. pretty sad.

So yeah, those gays learn to get really tough. In fact, i was thinking about this the other day, and those kinds of gays are probably some of the toughest people i've ever met. They've never been able to hide behind their masculinity like i have, they've had to live every day of their life out in the open.

After so much torture, you only have 2 ways you can cope. You can either kill yourself (too many of them still take this route), or you can fiercely and unapologetically be your fantastic flaming faggot self. This is the second part. Once gays realize that they can't control it, they will often embrace it and that's when they 'play it up' (though that's such an aweful way to put it). This is the threshold between being gay and being fabulous.

Since getting to know many fabulous people, i'm no longer bothered by it in the slightest. Infact, these kinds of people are hilarious, good, amazingly strong individuals. I'm not attracted to them in the slightest, but they definitely don't annoy me like they certainly used to.


This has to be the most idiotic post I've ever read on these forums.

I don't care if I get banned for this. Really, people who think like this are what makes people hate gays. I'm gay myself and you have to act like that? No, you don't. You can actually be a normal person, talk normal, walk normal and be attracted to guys without being a huge attentionwhore.


User was temp banned for this post.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 24 2011 15:50 GMT
#793
omg i loled so much when i saw this thread because i never taught there would be gay gamers(no pun intended and i'm sorry if that ofends someone), tl.net is really amazing since you can talk about almost everything, even sexuality, politics, economics.. etc..

Now about the subject i'm not gay but in the last couple of years i have been "exposed" to some guys who are gays and became friends with them in a heterosexual way of course :D and that helped me accept gay people has normal people. Not that i ever considerer myself a homofic or did anything to hurt a gay person.
Now when i grew up even tho my country is not homofobic in a agressive way, it's always there you know.. and i grew up calling my friends gay always joking around and making fun of it etc.. and they did the same to me,.. but now that i am older and wiser i can look to the struggle it must be for every gay people in the world and i simpatize with it and feel sorry for some that can't get out of the closet. What i'm saying is that i much prefer to see a friend of mine come out of the closet and have a partner and someone to love then spend his life unhappy and alone. I don't care if you are gay, i will hang out with you if you are a cool dude. It's simple and easy.

Nowadays is quite normal to find a gays in Lisbon and they don't bother me at all.
Prejudice against gays is wrong like it his against race, color, religion or any other minority.

Now gay people that enjoy games is new for me, i after reading your post i feel like gay people can be nerds of everything. And there is gays everywhere in everything, man and girl.

This is a good thread and i hope some guys and girls find whatever help/info they need to improve their lives!
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SilverWolfe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 15:51:10
February 24 2011 15:50 GMT
#794
I have to agree with the previous poster (dunc while I was writing this) to a point... but the whole idea is not EVERYONE acts the same way, regardless of whether they're gay, straight or whatever. Personally I've been called really 'straight-acting' (hate that term, but that's what people have used and say they wouldn't have guessed I was gay unless I told them) and for me the issue isn't really about trying to hide my blatantly 'gay behaviours', but more about getting out to people that I'm gay without it being awkward or anything. That being said, I realize there are a lot of gay guys who are just naturally really feminine or what a lot of people would call 'faggy'. At the end of the day, people should just realize that sexual orientation doesn't imply a certain kind of behavior, and even if people behave a certain way (more feminine, more masculine, more androgynous, whatever) it isn't really a good basis to discriminate against them.

If you don't like guys who are 'too feminine' or girls who are 'too masculine' or vice versa, just don't hang out or make friends with them, easy enough right? But for the rest of use who love everybody, quit the hate parade.
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fabulously
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway724 Posts
February 24 2011 16:04 GMT
#795
On February 25 2011 00:50 shell wrote:

Now gay people that enjoy games is new for me, i after reading your post i feel like gay people can be nerds of everything. And there is gays everywhere in everything, man and girl.

This is a good thread and i hope some guys and girls find whatever help/info they need to improve their lives!


Even though I am sure the intentions of your post were good, I feel kind of sad when I read "Now gay people that enjoy games is new for me". Why wouldn't there be gay gamers? Being gay doesn't exclude people from enjoying certain hobbies in life.

I do however fully agree with your last line though, and I am certain this thread does help both gays and straights with acceptance and information.
Welcome back ROOT-gaming - you were never forgotten <3
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 24 2011 17:09 GMT
#796
Well i'm sure there is! i simply never tought about it and that's why i loled and was so suprised to see a thread like this in a gaming site. It's not that gay people wouldn't enjoy games, it's just because of this discussion in a gaming site.

The stereotype says otherwise but why bother with stereotypes right?
I'm glad tho because games are for everyone!
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wxwx
Profile Joined May 2010
527 Posts
February 24 2011 17:18 GMT
#797
I am straight but the thought of putting my tongue in a dank vagina disgusts me. I have only got myself to do it once and it was naaaasty. This doesn't mean I'm gay does it?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43818 Posts
February 24 2011 17:27 GMT
#798
On February 25 2011 02:18 wxwx wrote:
I am straight but the thought of putting my tongue in a dank vagina disgusts me. I have only got myself to do it once and it was naaaasty. This doesn't mean I'm gay does it?

Depends if you'd rather the smooth silky skin of a penis parting your lips.
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AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
February 24 2011 17:34 GMT
#799
Interesting topic, but I doubt an analogous thread of how much guys love to plow chicks would be as well received. I'll be so happy if/when sexuality becomes completely irrelevant in society and we don't have to deal with the double standards from both sides of the coin.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 24 2011 17:38 GMT
#800
I would love to be able to select my favourite SC2 players based on looks, but guess what they are all dudes..

I would love to be able to say "my favourite protoss is that girl with the huge breast.. damn she's hot.." but i can't.. i guess i envy gay sc2 nerds :D
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