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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.
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On February 25 2011 08:00 Bortlett wrote:I can say for me personally, people saying "gay" (as in "that's so gay") or "fag" *does* bother me. I don't actively call people out or anything for it, but I just cringe whenever I hear it. I totally understand that people don't mean it as a gay slur, but the origins of the word are that. I wish it didn't bother me, but it does. We're an in age still (at least in America) where LGBTs are fighting for equal rights and against discrimination, and until that's more equal, I think it's a lot harder to let little stuff like that go. I mean, what if you said to somebody "that's so black"?
I always feel like a dick when I think about this, because I do tend to say things like "that was pretty gay" as kind of a default phrase for something annoying/dumb/style-of-play-i-think-takes-no-skill(but I do it too because I play to win D: ) For some obscure reason "fag" is still kind of on my no say list- maybe it's kind of like the n-word; so used to hearing it that it doesn't bother me, but would never say it myself.
It's always strange for me whenever I run into people that are *actually* homophobic and like "I would totally disown my children if they were gay", but unfortunately they still exist. I will admit that if my kids turned out gay I would be disappointed... is that just hypocritical then?
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On August 27 2010 21:04 Mora wrote:
So i've created this thread for a few reasons.
1) For gays to find other gays that actually have something in common, other than their seuxality.
2) For gays to ask questions. I have a lot of experience with sexuality and gender psychology.
3) For everyone else to ask questions. Want to know if gaydar really exists? Want to know how gays figure out who gets to be on top or the bottom? Why do gays talk with a lisp anyway? Does Mora really have a crush on Incontrol?
This is what this thread was created for. What is all this hate? I cant believe how much of an ass teacherWISH is. Posting hate in this thread is obviously a quite route to being banned. Like we all learned back in kindergarten, If you don't have anything nice to say, please dont say anything at all.
Have some respect for your fellow gamers. Enough said.
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On February 25 2011 12:18 vicariouscheese wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 08:00 Bortlett wrote:I can say for me personally, people saying "gay" (as in "that's so gay") or "fag" *does* bother me. I don't actively call people out or anything for it, but I just cringe whenever I hear it. I totally understand that people don't mean it as a gay slur, but the origins of the word are that. I wish it didn't bother me, but it does. We're an in age still (at least in America) where LGBTs are fighting for equal rights and against discrimination, and until that's more equal, I think it's a lot harder to let little stuff like that go. I mean, what if you said to somebody "that's so black"? I always feel like a dick when I think about this, because I do tend to say things like "that was pretty gay" as kind of a default phrase for something annoying/dumb/style-of-play-i-think-takes-no-skill(but I do it too because I play to win D  For some obscure reason "fag" is still kind of on my no say list- maybe it's kind of like the n-word; so used to hearing it that it doesn't bother me, but would never say it myself. It's always strange for me whenever I run into people that are *actually* homophobic and like "I would totally disown my children if they were gay", but unfortunately they still exist. I will admit that if my kids turned out gay I would be disappointed... is that just hypocritical then?
Well, first of all, I think as long as you would love them, that's what matters. I don't think it's that unusual for parents to feel *some* disappointment, because it probably goes against the expectations that you have for your children when they grow up.
I would first ask if you have kids now, because your feelings might be completely different once you actually have them.
If you do have kids, I would ask why would you feel disappointment? An LGBT child can still be successful in any career, they can still have kids (although they might be adopted or with either the egg or sperm donated), and hopefully they can get married someday. It's a better time to be gay than at any time in history, which would be good for your kids.
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hey i wear pink jeans and i love the pussy : /
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On February 25 2011 03:02 Homework wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 02:27 KwarK wrote:On February 25 2011 02:18 wxwx wrote:
I am straight but the thought of putting my tongue in a dank vagina disgusts me. I have only got myself to do it once and it was naaaasty. This doesn't mean I'm gay does it? Depends if you'd rather the smooth silky skin of a penis parting your lips. sexy.
LOL epic responses
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On February 25 2011 12:18 vicariouscheese wrote:
It's always strange for me whenever I run into people that are *actually* homophobic and like "I would totally disown my children if they were gay", but unfortunately they still exist. I will admit that if my kids turned out gay I would be disappointed... is that just hypocritical then?
Why would you be disappointed? That's probably the best place to start.
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I would say almost every country except liberal western 1st world countries is homophobic...Japan may be an exception (?)
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On August 27 2010 21:04 Mora wrote:
So i've created this thread for a few reasons.
1) For gays to find other gays that actually have something in common, other than their seuxality.
2) For gays to ask questions. I have a lot of experience with sexuality and gender psychology.
3) For everyone else to ask questions. Want to know if gaydar really exists? Want to know how gays figure out who gets to be on top or the bottom? Why do gays talk with a lisp anyway? Does Mora really have a crush on Incontrol?
So Mora, DOES gaydar exist? And how do you decide who is pitcher and who is catcher?
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On February 25 2011 12:18 vicariouscheese wrote:I always feel like a dick when I think about this, because I do tend to say things like "that was pretty gay" as kind of a default phrase for something annoying/dumb/style-of-play-i-think-takes-no-skill(but I do it too because I play to win D For some obscure reason "fag" is still kind of on my no say list- maybe it's kind of like the n-word; so used to hearing it that it doesn't bother me, but would never say it myself. It's always strange for me whenever I run into people that are *actually* homophobic and like "I would totally disown my children if they were gay", but unfortunately they still exist. I will admit that if my kids turned out gay I would be disappointed... is that just hypocritical then? Yes, that's hypocritical. And why would you be disappointed anyways? Would them being gay mean they would be less of a person? I mean, the only difference that makes is their partners would be of a different gender and honestly, that matters incredibly little.
The only reasons I can see being disappointed in my child would revolve around how they treat other people and how they decide to utilize their potential. I wouldn't want my child to be a criminal or jackass.
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On February 25 2011 12:39 lastmotion wrote:
I would say almost every country except liberal western 1st world countries is homophobic...Japan may be an exception (?) Yes, that's about true, but western first world countries are also the countries with the highest social mobility, least racism, and least sexism as a general rule. Societies' ability to be tolerant seems to partially be a product of wealth which is why it's somewhat saddening to see wealthier Asian countries remaining homophobic.
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On February 25 2011 12:19 VTArlock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 21:04 Mora wrote:
So i've created this thread for a few reasons.
1) For gays to find other gays that actually have something in common, other than their seuxality.
2) For gays to ask questions. I have a lot of experience with sexuality and gender psychology.
3) For everyone else to ask questions. Want to know if gaydar really exists? Want to know how gays figure out who gets to be on top or the bottom? Why do gays talk with a lisp anyway? Does Mora really have a crush on Incontrol?
This is what this thread was created for. What is all this hate? I cant believe how much of an ass teacherWISH is. Posting hate in this thread is obviously a quite route to being banned. Like we all learned back in kindergarten, If you don't have anything nice to say, please dont say anything at all. Have some respect for your fellow gamers. Enough said.
Massively flawed and juvenille concept, people are completely free to criticise things if they have a logical rational problem with something and that something can be changed, obviously homesexuality cant because its how your born, but sayings like that annoy me so much as they are spawned from medieval thinking and go against freedoms, one of which is freedom of sexual preference!
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Head coach KIMDONGWOO of hite Entus is bisexual
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On February 25 2011 12:29 Bortlett wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 12:18 vicariouscheese wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 08:00 Bortlett wrote:I can say for me personally, people saying "gay" (as in "that's so gay") or "fag" *does* bother me. I don't actively call people out or anything for it, but I just cringe whenever I hear it. I totally understand that people don't mean it as a gay slur, but the origins of the word are that. I wish it didn't bother me, but it does. We're an in age still (at least in America) where LGBTs are fighting for equal rights and against discrimination, and until that's more equal, I think it's a lot harder to let little stuff like that go. I mean, what if you said to somebody "that's so black"? I always feel like a dick when I think about this, because I do tend to say things like "that was pretty gay" as kind of a default phrase for something annoying/dumb/style-of-play-i-think-takes-no-skill(but I do it too because I play to win D For some obscure reason "fag" is still kind of on my no say list- maybe it's kind of like the n-word; so used to hearing it that it doesn't bother me, but would never say it myself. It's always strange for me whenever I run into people that are *actually* homophobic and like "I would totally disown my children if they were gay", but unfortunately they still exist. I will admit that if my kids turned out gay I would be disappointed... is that just hypocritical then? Well, first of all, I think as long as you would love them, that's what matters. I don't think it's that unusual for parents to feel *some* disappointment, because it probably goes against the expectations that you have for your children when they grow up. I would first ask if you have kids now, because your feelings might be completely different once you actually have them. If you do have kids, I would ask why would you feel disappointment? An LGBT child can still be successful in any career, they can still have kids (although they might be adopted or with either the egg or sperm donated), and hopefully they can get married someday. It's a better time to be gay than at any time in history, which would be good for your kids.
Good points, I would still love them, although I don't have any kids now.
On February 25 2011 12:51 hmunkey wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 12:18 vicariouscheese wrote:I always feel like a dick when I think about this, because I do tend to say things like "that was pretty gay" as kind of a default phrase for something annoying/dumb/style-of-play-i-think-takes-no-skill(but I do it too because I play to win D For some obscure reason "fag" is still kind of on my no say list- maybe it's kind of like the n-word; so used to hearing it that it doesn't bother me, but would never say it myself. It's always strange for me whenever I run into people that are *actually* homophobic and like "I would totally disown my children if they were gay", but unfortunately they still exist. I will admit that if my kids turned out gay I would be disappointed... is that just hypocritical then? Yes, that's hypocritical. And why would you be disappointed anyways? Would them being gay mean they would be less of a person? I mean, the only difference that makes is their partners would be of a different gender and honestly, that matters incredibly little. The only reasons I can see being disappointed in my child would revolve around how they treat other people and how they decide to utilize their potential. I wouldn't want my child to be a criminal or jackass.
You're right, it is hypocritical. I guess I'd be disappointed since my view of a "normal" family is still skewed to the conservative end. Knowing myself I would pretty much get over it immediately, but now that I think about it I'm upset to know that it would initially be disappointing.
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Knowing myself I would pretty much get over it immediately, but now that I think about it I'm upset to know that it would initially be disappointing.
Hehe don't be too hard on yourself there. Even parents 100% cool with queerosity still go through a process of incorporating the notion that they won't have grandchildren (in the heteronormal way anyway), and the other sorts of emotions (fear for their child's safety, future potential for happiness etc etc). Just because the realization/revelation is/would be arresting, doesn't mean you are "really" homophobic "deep down".
Being honest with yourself about your feelings is a big part of being awesome. : )
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On February 25 2011 12:39 lastmotion wrote:
I would say almost every country except liberal western 1st world countries is homophobic...Japan may be an exception (?)
Thailand is another exception.
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On February 25 2011 14:25 MOOG wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 12:39 lastmotion wrote:
I would say almost every country except liberal western 1st world countries is homophobic...Japan may be an exception (?) Thailand is another exception.
argentina?
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On February 25 2011 14:32 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 14:25 MOOG wrote:On February 25 2011 12:39 lastmotion wrote:
I would say almost every country except liberal western 1st world countries is homophobic...Japan may be an exception (?) Thailand is another exception. argentina?
Brazil? Chile? Mexico? Most of South America?
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What are your opinions on Judith Butler?
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I'm a pre-transition transwoman asexual panromantic.
Yeah it confuses me too.
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I have a question for the gay people out there. I watch Modern Family a lot, I think it is one of the funniest shows on right now, and there is a gay couple on there. I do not know if any of you are married but would you say they depict the normal for gay's when dealing with a marriage, or like the stereotypical exception?
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