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On July 13 2013 09:04 plasmidghost wrote:
I just walked in on two guys having sex in the showers at my local gym. For anyone who has had experience with this type of thing, what are you supposed to do/say if you walk in on that? Just leave and act like you saw nothing? It was extremely awkward but very arousing at the same time...
Two strangers?
"Sorry." (avert gaze, keep walking)
Two guys you know?
Popcorn and color commentary. If you don't shout "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL" when the first one comes, I don't know what to tell you.
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On July 13 2013 09:04 plasmidghost wrote:
I just walked in on two guys having sex in the showers at my local gym. For anyone who has had experience with this type of thing, what are you supposed to do/say if you walk in on that? Just leave and act like you saw nothing? It was extremely awkward but very arousing at the same time...
Nothing wrong with grabbing a protein shake to go.
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Marv! Go get married now!
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Hey guys, does anyone know if there are any out professional Sc2 players?
Thnx!
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Last Shadow.
Alot of rumours, but I imagine that alot stay publically closeted because they want to be notorious for their own merits, not for being "the or a gay pro gamer".
Oh and the obvious reason that as much as LGB people are becoming much more normalised everywhere, heteronormativity is so safe.
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regarding LGBT people there is Scarlett
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On July 19 2013 20:25 mono_regio wrote:
regarding LGBT people there is Scarlett
I'm not you can use "out" in that context, its kinda odd, I've never used out to describe anyone trans*, maybe because it stresses the transition part which is totally not the point.
Additionally I left out the T because the statement would have been dishonest, lesbians gays and bisexuals are generally more mainstreamed, better representation in popular culture would be an example, while trans* people have made progress I would guess that being LGB as opposed to T would be more socially acceptable, in this country at least.
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On July 19 2013 21:16 Kerotan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 20:25 mono_regio wrote:
regarding LGBT people there is Scarlett I'm not you can use "out" in that context, its kinda odd, I've never used out to describe anyone trans*, maybe because it stresses the transition part which is totally not the point. Additionally I left out the T because the statement would have been dishonest, lesbians gays and bisexuals are generally more mainstreamed, better representation in popular culture would be an example, while trans* people have made progress I would guess that being LGB as opposed to T would be more socially acceptable, in this country at least.
Er, no, LGBT is the standard.
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it is but I'm with kerotan that there is a big difference in the ways society sees/treats LGB and T people.
I assumed that that was the reason you left out the 'T' and that's why I made it bold in my post.
btw does anyone know about Puck's/Leiya's current status? I think there was a (public) discussion but can find it.
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On July 19 2013 21:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 21:16 Kerotan wrote:On July 19 2013 20:25 mono_regio wrote:
regarding LGBT people there is Scarlett I'm not you can use "out" in that context, its kinda odd, I've never used out to describe anyone trans*, maybe because it stresses the transition part which is totally not the point. Additionally I left out the T because the statement would have been dishonest, lesbians gays and bisexuals are generally more mainstreamed, better representation in popular culture would be an example, while trans* people have made progress I would guess that being LGB as opposed to T would be more socially acceptable, in this country at least. Er, no, LGBT is the standard.
yes, I'm aware that LGBT is an acronym that exists. I felt that If I included the T, and left the sentence as is, it would have communicated that I think all people included in the LGBT acronym are accepted equally by society, which I do not. The sentence can be easily modified to read;
"Oh and the obvious reason that as much as LGBT people are becoming much more normalised everywhere (albeit trans* people less so), heteronormativity is still so safe."
For clarity, I interpret "out" as most commonly being associated with LGB people, and that LGBT people are becoming more mainstreamed, with trans* people slightly less so than LGB people, but even in the light of these advances, the assumption of being heterosexual and cisexual is much safer in regard to the perception of people in the public eye. (i.e. progamers)
My original response to mono_regio was on the basis that through the bolding of the T, they were implying that intentioned neglected trans* people from the discussion, when I did not include them because I don't associate "out" with being trans.
-edit oh cool.
I'm glad you got my meaning.
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On July 19 2013 22:24 mono_regio wrote:
btw does anyone know about Puck's/Leiya's current status? I think there was a (public) discussion but can find it.
I searched a source too, my current understanding is that puck no longer wants to transition and prefers not to be refered to by either pronoun.
I'll try and find a link.
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Oh, I see. My misunderstanding, sorry.
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On July 19 2013 22:33 Kerotan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 22:24 mono_regio wrote:
btw does anyone know about Puck's/Leiya's current status? I think there was a (public) discussion but can find it. I searched a source too, my current understanding is that puck no longer wants to transition and prefers not to be refered to by either pronoun. I'll try and find a link.
Puck made a reddit post himself explaining what happened. I have no idea how reddit works so I can't find it, but perhaps it is not very difficult. If I am not completely wrong he was well on his way transitioning, until he realized it would not work out for him, and he could not afford to. I got the impression it was essentially about choosing the lesser of two evils.
I have yet to see a game of his streamed where he is not mercilessly mocked about this, which is perhaps not very surprising. I don't think he has it very easy.
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Re: the representation of LGBTQ (or any minority) in media.
One side: Write LGBTQ characters as characters who just happen to be LGBTQ. Don't make the LGBTQ part such a big deal.
Other side: You can't write LGBTQ characters as characters who just happen to be LGBTQ without marginalizing the struggles that LGBTQ people face every day. You have to make the LGBTQ part a big deal.
Which do you prefer and why?
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On July 25 2013 05:54 electronic voyeur wrote:
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On July 25 2013 05:50 babylon wrote:
Re: the representation of LGBTQ (or any minority) in media.
One side: Write LGBTQ characters as characters who just happen to be LGBTQ. Don't make the LGBTQ part such a big deal.
Other side: You can't write LGBTQ characters as characters who just happen to be LGBTQ without marginalizing the struggles that LGBTQ people face every day. You have to make the LGBTQ part a big deal.
Which do you prefer and why?
Well that would obviously depends on what environment LGBTQ would be in, in UK Muslim ghetto it will be very different then among civilized people. Anybody that complained about what I write will logically have to claim that homphobes are civilized people.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On July 25 2013 05:50 babylon wrote:
Re: the representation of LGBTQ (or any minority) in media.
One side: Write LGBTQ characters as characters who just happen to be LGBTQ. Don't make the LGBTQ part such a big deal.
Other side: You can't write LGBTQ characters as characters who just happen to be LGBTQ without marginalizing the struggles that LGBTQ people face every day. You have to make the LGBTQ part a big deal.
Which do you prefer and why?
I actually prefer the first; although I don't think it needs to marginalize LGBT struggles. I think the more that we act and believe that being LGBT is normal, the more it will be reflected in society at large; but that if you make a big deal out of it then it will be more likely to be perceived as such - i.e. as people who need to overcome massive stigma, which could make the whole affair of "coming out" a lot harder.
I would think that those who struggle to be themselves would fight for normalization of their sexuality rather than oppose it - they would support anything that makes it easier for others to accept them for who they are. Therefore they would support the first option more than the second, as the second actually hinders their cause.
I am uncomfortable with not recognizing the important struggles and achievements LGBT people have made; but it seems to me that overall the first option would help the most people. If you have to fight for normalization then you have no choice, it must be #2. But every attempt should be made from the angle that its normal and should be considered an unremarkable, accepted part of life. Only with failure do you choose #2.
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On July 25 2013 06:30 Polis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 05:50 babylon wrote:
Re: the representation of LGBTQ (or any minority) in media.
One side: Write LGBTQ characters as characters who just happen to be LGBTQ. Don't make the LGBTQ part such a big deal.
Other side: You can't write LGBTQ characters as characters who just happen to be LGBTQ without marginalizing the struggles that LGBTQ people face every day. You have to make the LGBTQ part a big deal.
Which do you prefer and why? Well that would obviously depends on what environment LGBTQ would be in, in UK Muslim ghetto it will be very different then among civilized people. Anybody that complained about what I write will logically have to claim that homphobes are civilized people.
That's some pretty racist bullshit... I don't even know what else to say :S
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