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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.

For regular posters, don't quote the trolls.
Catreina
Profile Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
August 30 2010 00:34 GMT
#641
On August 30 2010 09:28 Zealotdriver wrote:
Wow, I apparently missed the Raelcun vs Catreina. Just looked up what he did. His cheeky little recording and forum posts basically outed Catreina as trans before she felt comfortable coming out on here. I just lost what little respect I had for Raelcun.


That was why I raged, but in hindsight, without that shithead doing what he did, I might never have come out.

Seriously, I have lost jobs and been denied jobs because of my status, though some people have looked past that for a variety of reasons (one employers HR rep that hired me basically told me the background check showed my prior name, but she could not legally deny me the job).

I was afraid of what would happen should people find out. I am still afraid of possible consequences, but hell, it would have been out eventually because of the trolls and myspace snapshots anyway, so I decided to stop fighting it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 00:39:02
August 30 2010 00:37 GMT
#642
Hmmm this thread is pretty interesting.

Well I'm not sure if I'm homophobic, I guess I actually am not now. I've had really bad experiences though, with some feminine gay guy having a crush on me or something a few years ago and semi-molesting and just being clingy, that was really annoying. I've met some cool gay people so I'm more okay with them now but ehh... I think some of them are just a bit messed up. I used to be really homophobic but now it's better I guess... hmm what a useless post >_> But Mora you're pretty cool and your posts here have been interesting, props and keep it up I guess =P

EDIT: I didn't catch it if you said something about it earlier in the thread, but what do you think about people using "gay" as synonymous to "bad" or "stupid" or something? I personally sometimes do it as well, but don't connect it to homosexuality in the context. Then again I am not a native English-speaker so it might be different. Do you get offended if a person uses "gay" in place of "stupid" or "lame"?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
August 30 2010 00:43 GMT
#643
out of all sc progamers , who you find hotter? =/
Catreina
Profile Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
August 30 2010 00:54 GMT
#644
I dont really follow how hot (or not) any particular progamer is
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
August 30 2010 01:02 GMT
#645
On August 30 2010 07:56 Masamune wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2010 07:00 Apexplayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 06:29 Danger_Duck wrote:
On August 30 2010 06:24 Apexplayer wrote:
This is just an arbitrary thought that I was kinda curious about.

Let's assume that being gay is genetic.

If that is true then isn't it a "disorder"(in the reproductive sense) that is worse than having a mental illness or most other genetic diseases?

The more open people are about being gay, the faster the whole idea of being gay will be a thing of the past and in some obscure section of the history book. Simply because it's something that cannot be passed on to the next generation because of the lack of a next generation.


Before you talk about genetics, study genetics first. There's something called recessive traits.
That's not to say it's definitely genetic, it's just that such an argument is invalid. The only thing you could say is that the gene (if there is one) is not dominant


I have studied genetics, thanks for the needless flame. If you studied genetics you would know that there isn't only recessive and dominant genes. The majority of gay people will tell you that they believe their sexuality is genetic, and people are finding evidence for this constantly. Maybe you have heard of the choice vs genes controversy?

Aside from the flame. It is, reproductively, and unwanted trait which does cause the % of the trait in the population to diminish over time, recessive, dominant, co-dominant or not.

If you have studied genetics, it wasn't very well. Anyone who studies genetics seriously will know that evolution goes hand-in-hand with it (and everything else in biology) and that's where your post is flawed. I'm guessing you believe it's a choice or else it would have dwindled away by now? Well make sure to read my post because I'm starting to sound like a broken record.

Like I mentioned earlier, just because you can't directly reproduce does not mean that your genes are forever barred from the next generation--your relatives can pass on your genes for you as well. Homosexuality can be seen as an alternate mechanism to evolution (albeit less frequent) in that it adheres to kin selection. From the wikipedia entry on it: Kin selection refers to apparent strategies in evolution that favor the reproductive success of an organism's relatives, even at a cost to their own survival and/or reproduction. The classic example is a eusocial insect colony, in which sterile females act as workers to assist their mother in the production of additional offspring. Switch sterile females for voluntarily sterile brothers and mother to sisters in that last sentence and voila! The case of homosexuality makes a little more sense.

If I had to classify homosexuality, I'd say that it acts similarly to an outlaw gene in that it jeopardizes the reproduction of other genes in favour of itself. I say this because there have been studies done where they have found that female relatives of gay males tend to be more fecund than females not known to have any gay relatives. If I had to make a guess, I'd say that under the right environmental conditions, males with the gay gene have a great chance of becoming homosexual, whereas this same gene in their female relatives makes them hornier (who knows, but they tend to have more children than average). With the brother having no children of his own, he works to ensure the survival and replication of his nieces and nephews, which in turn share his genes as well. So it benefits the sister's genes, while fucking over some of the brother's genes. It would also help his brothers who may not be expressing the homosexual trait but whom have the "gene" anyway

Now the environment probably does have a bit to do with homosexuality, but I'd wager my life on their being a genetic precursor. I'd imagine that their could be some possible epigenetic factors involved or maybe even the way a certain portion of mRNA is spliced or something. Who knows, but there is something biological going on and the environmental component of it definitely wouldn't be a choice someone makes.

I'm not so sure about the genetic processes of lesbians, but it leads me to believe that their may be alternative modes of inheritance of homosexuality, be it genes themselves or other biological factors.


First of all, YAY GENETICS. I freakin love evolution. I don't entirely agree with you (Masamune) about the gay gene being entirely present due to kin selection. I mean, that's almost certainly one of the reasons it's around, and *interestingly* (just thought this up :D) these kind of genes almost act as a birth control measure, increasing the ratio of adults : children, which is a favourable thing to have in some ways (though obviously it's a balance between having few healthy children and many unhealthy children).

Another reason it is around is because, let's face it, a large majority of gay guys HAVE been sleeping with women and reproducing, purely because of the social reaction to gay sex (and I think this is something people forget about in their discussions - homosexuality has almost certainly been happening for the entire lifetime of the human species).

Another very interesting idea about homosexuality in genetics and why it is still around is the idea of a gene for homosexuality (and obviously it's not one gene that causes the whole thing, but possibly a crucial one) being X-linked. As in the gene is on the X chromosome. What this means is that while you may not reproduce, there is a 50:50 chance of your sisters having the gene and passing it on.

I am also loath to say that the gene (although again, it's obviously more than one) is dominant/recessive/co-dominant/whatever, as these kind of labels are getting more and more blurry as we discover more about our genome, and more importantly such a complex trait as sexuality is determined by a huge amount of genes, so the dominance or recessiveness of one may have no effect on the outcome.

Your comments about epigenetics are pretty interesting - I tend to tunnel vision on genomes and forget about all this other stuff which is at least as important. So yeah, epigenetics almost certainly does come into it, really interesting point, but I have no idea how any of it would work

GOD the body is complex.

Anyway, back to gaaaay. Someone asked what was one's favourite colour. Mine is green

Catreina it sounds like the whole situation with Raelcun completely sucks, it definitely seems to me like being trans (of any sort) is harder than being gay at the moment. Big hugs.

And to cheer everyone up, and bring up the topic of gay adoption: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8081829.stm

<3
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
August 30 2010 01:06 GMT
#646
On August 30 2010 09:43 ilj.psa wrote:
out of all sc progamers , who you find hotter? =/


I thought HuK was pretty buff

Also, serious NERDCRUSH on Day[9]. SERIOUSLY. And Husky to a lesser extent. And PsY, he's just so sarcy
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
August 30 2010 01:12 GMT
#647
Hi gay people. Out of all SCBW progamers who do you find the hottest?
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
August 30 2010 01:17 GMT
#648
On August 30 2010 10:12 love1another wrote:
Hi gay people. Out of all SCBW progamers who do you find the hottest?


Well, Asians aren't really my type, and I know very few BW players, but I think Jaedong is pretty cute for a progamer
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
August 30 2010 01:22 GMT
#649
90% of this thread - "Who's the hottest X programer lolz"
10% of this thread - Legitimate questions

Anyways, I know this seems super sarcastic but I'm completely serious. How can you tolerate getting something shoved up your ass?
Catreina
Profile Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
August 30 2010 01:26 GMT
#650
On August 30 2010 10:22 Fruscainte wrote:
90% of this thread - "Who's the hottest X programer lolz"
10% of this thread - Legitimate questions

Anyways, I know this seems super sarcastic but I'm completely serious. How can you tolerate getting something shoved up your ass?



90% of 6 posts on page 33. The meat of the thread is actually legitimate questions. Do you have one? Asking the question you posted here is far from serious, your statement to the contrary does not negate how utterly disrespectful said question is.
psychopat
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada417 Posts
August 30 2010 01:28 GMT
#651
Anyways, I know this seems super sarcastic but I'm completely serious. How can you tolerate getting something shoved up your ass?


Can't say I've tried it but lots of straight guys enjoy that too. Google the p-spot; it'll blow your mind... or rather, your prostate.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
August 30 2010 01:29 GMT
#652
On August 30 2010 10:17 wristuzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 10:12 love1another wrote:
Hi gay people. Out of all SCBW progamers who do you find the hottest?


Well, Asians aren't really my type, and I know very few BW players, but I think Jaedong is pretty cute for a progamer

So even if I embrace my creeping homosexual nature, I'll still be unattractive and unloved. I hate being asian. Can I dye my skin please?
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 01:33:44
August 30 2010 01:33 GMT
#653
On August 30 2010 10:26 Catreina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 10:22 Fruscainte wrote:
90% of this thread - "Who's the hottest X programer lolz"
10% of this thread - Legitimate questions

Anyways, I know this seems super sarcastic but I'm completely serious. How can you tolerate getting something shoved up your ass?



90% of 6 posts on page 33. The meat of the thread is actually legitimate questions. Do you have one? Asking the question you posted here is far from serious, your statement to the contrary does not negate how utterly disrespectful said question is.


The percentages is what we in the people with a sense of humor industry call a joke.

As for the question, I'll put it more softly for you sugar.

How do you truly find pleasure in being penetrated back there? Wouldn't it hurt more than anything?
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 30 2010 01:33 GMT
#654
On August 30 2010 09:11 intrigue wrote:
i've always understood sexuality as non-binary, and so have never felt bad when i found a guy attractive. when i say 'wow so and so guy is attractive' i don't pretend to be looking at it completely objectively, there's definitely a sexual component (and often fantasizing LOL!). on the whole though i just like girls so much, fucking way too much, really, to act upon other impulses. i think it's important to keep in mind that human preference is always on a spectrum, not polarized extremes.


You're in the minority of men on this. Studies are run that measure response to photos, and the majority of men exist on either extreme and aren't aroused at all by the rest of the spectrum.

Interestingly women, on the whole, tend to fall into a wider spectrum and aren't polarized.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
August 30 2010 01:38 GMT
#655
On August 30 2010 10:33 heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 09:11 intrigue wrote:
i've always understood sexuality as non-binary, and so have never felt bad when i found a guy attractive. when i say 'wow so and so guy is attractive' i don't pretend to be looking at it completely objectively, there's definitely a sexual component (and often fantasizing LOL!). on the whole though i just like girls so much, fucking way too much, really, to act upon other impulses. i think it's important to keep in mind that human preference is always on a spectrum, not polarized extremes.


You're in the minority of men on this. Studies are run that measure response to photos, and the majority of men exist on either extreme and aren't aroused at all by the rest of the spectrum.

Interestingly women, on the whole, tend to fall into a wider spectrum and aren't polarized.

Link to studies please?
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Catreina
Profile Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
August 30 2010 01:40 GMT
#656
On August 30 2010 10:33 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 10:26 Catreina wrote:
On August 30 2010 10:22 Fruscainte wrote:
90% of this thread - "Who's the hottest X programer lolz"
10% of this thread - Legitimate questions

Anyways, I know this seems super sarcastic but I'm completely serious. How can you tolerate getting something shoved up your ass?



90% of 6 posts on page 33. The meat of the thread is actually legitimate questions. Do you have one? Asking the question you posted here is far from serious, your statement to the contrary does not negate how utterly disrespectful said question is.


The percentages is what we in the people with a sense of humor industry call a joke.

As for the question, I'll put it more softly for you sugar.

How do you truly find pleasure in being penetrated back there? Wouldn't it hurt more than anything?



Liken it to the first time a young girl has sex. It hurts like holy hell, but once you get used to it, it is amazing. As said by psychopat:


Can't say I've tried it but lots of straight guys enjoy that too. Google the p-spot; it'll blow your mind... or rather, your prostate
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 01:43:10
August 30 2010 01:42 GMT
#657
On August 30 2010 10:40 Catreina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 10:33 Fruscainte wrote:
On August 30 2010 10:26 Catreina wrote:
On August 30 2010 10:22 Fruscainte wrote:
90% of this thread - "Who's the hottest X programer lolz"
10% of this thread - Legitimate questions

Anyways, I know this seems super sarcastic but I'm completely serious. How can you tolerate getting something shoved up your ass?



90% of 6 posts on page 33. The meat of the thread is actually legitimate questions. Do you have one? Asking the question you posted here is far from serious, your statement to the contrary does not negate how utterly disrespectful said question is.


The percentages is what we in the people with a sense of humor industry call a joke.

As for the question, I'll put it more softly for you sugar.

How do you truly find pleasure in being penetrated back there? Wouldn't it hurt more than anything?



Liken it to the first time a young girl has sex. It hurts like holy hell, but once you get used to it, it is amazing. As said by psychopat:

Show nested quote +

Can't say I've tried it but lots of straight guys enjoy that too. Google the p-spot; it'll blow your mind... or rather, your prostate

At last, I am redeemed.
On August 14 2010 04:34 love1another wrote:
Now with an almost orgasmic sense of anticipation, I returned all 3 vials to the shitbag and with a triumphant air, zipped the bag.

"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
PaprikaSpice
Profile Joined August 2010
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 01:53:54
August 30 2010 01:49 GMT
#658
You're in the minority of men on this. Studies are run that measure response to photos, and the majority of men exist on either extreme and aren't aroused at all by the rest of the spectrum.

Interestingly women, on the whole, tend to fall into a wider spectrum and aren't polarized.


I've read of this study too.

How do you truly find pleasure in being penetrated back there? Wouldn't it hurt more than anything?


Although anal sex is associated with gay men for obvious reasons, it's not especially unique to us. Lots and lots and lots of straight men enjoy anal play, going from their gf/wife fingering them while giving oral all the way to having gf/wife fuck them with a strap-on.

Humans in general attach a lot of importance to penetration, but it's not especially important. If you're a man that likes being penetrated by women, you're straight. If you're a man that likes penetrating other men, you're gay. So on and so forth.

Finally: done right, it doesn't hurt. Go slow, use lots of lube. Start with fingers or toys and slowly move up in diameter.

It's funny how often that question comes up.

To answer the follow-up question: there's no rule about who bottoms and who tops. Each couple/pair/trio+ works it out for themselves. Like everything else, it's a spectrum.

Edit, I strongly disagree with the following:

Liken it to the first time a young girl has sex. It hurts like holy hell, but once you get used to it, it is amazing. As said by psychopat:


It's definitely possible for at least some girls to lose their virginity painlessly, given a considerate partner. And for me personally, my first time absolutely did not hurt. My at-the-time BF went slow and used lots of lube.

I also think that (as with girls), arousal factors into it. At least it does with me.

Full disclosure: I almost always bottom, and orgasms from topping have never come anywhere near the intensity of orgasms from bottoming.
Paprika.295 on b-net!
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
August 30 2010 01:53 GMT
#659
On August 30 2010 10:22 Fruscainte wrote:
90% of this thread - "Who's the hottest X programer lolz"
10% of this thread - Legitimate questions

Anyways, I know this seems super sarcastic but I'm completely serious. How can you tolerate getting something shoved up your ass?


There have been many legitimate questions in this thread.

As for your question, which is legitimate, if a bit crudely phrased, it's somewhere between painful, uncomfortable, and extremely pleasurable. Not to mention it's so hot for us. I mean, I could ask you why you enjoy playing with boobs (which I assume you do [they're so weird!]) - it's not a directly pleasurable act, but it's pleasurable because it turns you on. Make sensies?

MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Malabyte
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway75 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 01:57:41
August 30 2010 01:55 GMT
#660
Anyway, back to gaaaay. Someone asked what was one's favourite colour. Mine is green

Haha, according to a web friend, I am actually the Green Lantern :D
My favorite is also green. (I'm bi though.)

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