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On August 30 2010 05:08 Reechani wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 04:54 Zoroth wrote:I was attempting to say that the state of "gay", which from a certain perspective could be viewed as a 1-word label for "I choose not to have reproductively compatible sexual relations", would be the end of humanity if 100% of people chose it. Thankfully, in our modern day society, we don't need to have compatible sexual relations in order to reproduce.  I'm glad someone finally brought that up, I was going to say it but yea, it is still quite possible to reproduce without being in a relationship or even without having sex Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 04:55 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:51 buhhy wrote:On August 30 2010 04:44 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:42 buhhy wrote:On August 28 2010 13:56 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 28 2010 13:39 Reechani wrote:On August 28 2010 13:08 iamahydralisk wrote:
I just thought I'd post and say hey. I'm a bisexual (I think) and transgendered (not necessarily transsexual but it's pretty likely) individual. I think this is an amazing thread and I wish that people in real life were half as accepting as the TL community :3 I am transsexual and I agree, none of my friends know, one plays Starcraft 2 also, and I am too afraid to tell them because I like having them as friends and I am afraid that if I tell them I will lose them as friends. There are only a few people I know in real life who know... I plan on telling my friends, though. I'm not going to be in their face about it, but I have to know where they stand on it. I don't think I could ever be friends with someone who's prejudiced against something that's a part of who I am. EDIT: I just reread my post and noticed that I come across as a bit prejudiced myself. I don't mean to... I just don't want to associate myself with hateful, closed-minded people. Just curious, what type of transgender are you? The feminine type or the masculine type? And wow... there's a pretty diverse population on tl.net. MtF. Why do you ask? I don't mean that. I mean were you feminine as a child? Oh... I guess. I mean, I'm not and have never been "flaming," but yeah, I've always been on the feminine side. For as long as I can remember, I've always been effeminate in mindset, but I've only recently started changing my physical appearance to match that. How have you started to change your body? Like what did you start with first? I have been trying to grow my hair long but it's going slow and I want to change more.
The very first thing I did was lose weight. I used to be about 200 pounds, but now I'm down to 135 or so. I'm about 5'9", by the way. I've also experimented with body hair removal, but it's honestly such a hassle that I'm just letting it go for now. I'm going to get electrolysis on my face and maybe other areas of my body eventually...
I'm also trying to grow my hair out, but it's taking a long time. A few months ago, my hair actually stopped growing completely for some reason. Now I'm taking a special vitamin for it (GNC's Women's Ultra Nourishair) and it's growing again. I'm thinking of getting my ears pierced soon, and I'm also considering getting my eyebrows waxed regularly.
Have you done anything besides changing your hair?
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On August 30 2010 05:20 HeaDStrong wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 04:14 Masamune wrote:
Oh yeah and the question of whether gays are attracted to themselves when they look in the mirror is as stupid as asking girls if they are attracted to their fathers or boys if they are attracted to their mothers. not to derail a thread but... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex  .
My point was that people are generally repulsed by others who are highly related genetically, so asking gays if they are attracted to themselves would be one step above asking people if they are attracted to family members.
However though, more often than not, people actually do end up mating with people who are generally similar to themselves, so in effect they kinda do pursue qualities their parents have.
Freud was wrong quite often btw. I'm guessing Oedipus never went through reverse sexual imprinting with his mom 
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On August 30 2010 05:33 iamahydralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 05:08 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 04:54 Zoroth wrote:I was attempting to say that the state of "gay", which from a certain perspective could be viewed as a 1-word label for "I choose not to have reproductively compatible sexual relations", would be the end of humanity if 100% of people chose it. Thankfully, in our modern day society, we don't need to have compatible sexual relations in order to reproduce. I'm glad someone finally brought that up, I was going to say it but yea, it is still quite possible to reproduce without being in a relationship or even without having sex On August 30 2010 04:55 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:51 buhhy wrote:On August 30 2010 04:44 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:42 buhhy wrote:On August 28 2010 13:56 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 28 2010 13:39 Reechani wrote:On August 28 2010 13:08 iamahydralisk wrote:
I just thought I'd post and say hey. I'm a bisexual (I think) and transgendered (not necessarily transsexual but it's pretty likely) individual. I think this is an amazing thread and I wish that people in real life were half as accepting as the TL community :3 I am transsexual and I agree, none of my friends know, one plays Starcraft 2 also, and I am too afraid to tell them because I like having them as friends and I am afraid that if I tell them I will lose them as friends. There are only a few people I know in real life who know... I plan on telling my friends, though. I'm not going to be in their face about it, but I have to know where they stand on it. I don't think I could ever be friends with someone who's prejudiced against something that's a part of who I am. EDIT: I just reread my post and noticed that I come across as a bit prejudiced myself. I don't mean to... I just don't want to associate myself with hateful, closed-minded people. Just curious, what type of transgender are you? The feminine type or the masculine type? And wow... there's a pretty diverse population on tl.net. MtF. Why do you ask? I don't mean that. I mean were you feminine as a child? Oh... I guess. I mean, I'm not and have never been "flaming," but yeah, I've always been on the feminine side. For as long as I can remember, I've always been effeminate in mindset, but I've only recently started changing my physical appearance to match that. How have you started to change your body? Like what did you start with first? I have been trying to grow my hair long but it's going slow and I want to change more. The very first thing I did was lose weight. I used to be about 200 pounds, but now I'm down to 135 or so. I'm about 5'9", by the way. I've also experimented with body hair removal, but it's honestly such a hassle that I'm just letting it go for now. I'm going to get electrolysis on my face and maybe other areas of my body eventually... I'm also trying to grow my hair out, but it's taking a long time. A few months ago, my hair actually stopped growing completely for some reason. Now I'm taking a special vitamin for it (GNC's Women's Ultra Nourishair) and it's growing again. I'm thinking of getting my ears pierced soon, and I'm also considering getting my eyebrows waxed regularly. Have you done anything besides changing your hair?
No, I want to lose weight but I'm not sure where to start with that, I have also experimented with hair removal a little and I continue to do it, other than that I haven't really done anything
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On August 30 2010 05:39 Reechani wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 05:33 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:08 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 04:54 Zoroth wrote:I was attempting to say that the state of "gay", which from a certain perspective could be viewed as a 1-word label for "I choose not to have reproductively compatible sexual relations", would be the end of humanity if 100% of people chose it. Thankfully, in our modern day society, we don't need to have compatible sexual relations in order to reproduce. I'm glad someone finally brought that up, I was going to say it but yea, it is still quite possible to reproduce without being in a relationship or even without having sex On August 30 2010 04:55 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:51 buhhy wrote:On August 30 2010 04:44 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:42 buhhy wrote:On August 28 2010 13:56 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 28 2010 13:39 Reechani wrote:On August 28 2010 13:08 iamahydralisk wrote:
I just thought I'd post and say hey. I'm a bisexual (I think) and transgendered (not necessarily transsexual but it's pretty likely) individual. I think this is an amazing thread and I wish that people in real life were half as accepting as the TL community :3 I am transsexual and I agree, none of my friends know, one plays Starcraft 2 also, and I am too afraid to tell them because I like having them as friends and I am afraid that if I tell them I will lose them as friends. There are only a few people I know in real life who know... I plan on telling my friends, though. I'm not going to be in their face about it, but I have to know where they stand on it. I don't think I could ever be friends with someone who's prejudiced against something that's a part of who I am. EDIT: I just reread my post and noticed that I come across as a bit prejudiced myself. I don't mean to... I just don't want to associate myself with hateful, closed-minded people. Just curious, what type of transgender are you? The feminine type or the masculine type? And wow... there's a pretty diverse population on tl.net. MtF. Why do you ask? I don't mean that. I mean were you feminine as a child? Oh... I guess. I mean, I'm not and have never been "flaming," but yeah, I've always been on the feminine side. For as long as I can remember, I've always been effeminate in mindset, but I've only recently started changing my physical appearance to match that. How have you started to change your body? Like what did you start with first? I have been trying to grow my hair long but it's going slow and I want to change more. The very first thing I did was lose weight. I used to be about 200 pounds, but now I'm down to 135 or so. I'm about 5'9", by the way. I've also experimented with body hair removal, but it's honestly such a hassle that I'm just letting it go for now. I'm going to get electrolysis on my face and maybe other areas of my body eventually... I'm also trying to grow my hair out, but it's taking a long time. A few months ago, my hair actually stopped growing completely for some reason. Now I'm taking a special vitamin for it (GNC's Women's Ultra Nourishair) and it's growing again. I'm thinking of getting my ears pierced soon, and I'm also considering getting my eyebrows waxed regularly. Have you done anything besides changing your hair? No, I want to lose weight but I'm not sure where to start with that, I have also experimented with hair removal a little and I continue to do it, other than that I haven't really done anything
I'm no doctor so take this advice with a grain of salt, but I was able to lose nearly 70 pounds in about six months just by eating less and more healthily. I didn't even have to exercise that much because I didn't want to get muscles. The most important thing you have to realize about weight loss is that it's more than just a diet; it's a permanent lifestyle change. A lot of people seem to be under the delusion that you can diet, lose weight, and then go back to your old eating habits and stay skinny. That's completely 100% false. If you want to lose weight, you just have to be committed to it.
Another thing you could look into is makeup. I haven't learned how to use it myself yet, but I know that you can disguise angular, manly features with the right makeup application.
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On August 30 2010 05:53 iamahydralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 05:39 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 05:33 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:08 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 04:54 Zoroth wrote:I was attempting to say that the state of "gay", which from a certain perspective could be viewed as a 1-word label for "I choose not to have reproductively compatible sexual relations", would be the end of humanity if 100% of people chose it. Thankfully, in our modern day society, we don't need to have compatible sexual relations in order to reproduce. I'm glad someone finally brought that up, I was going to say it but yea, it is still quite possible to reproduce without being in a relationship or even without having sex On August 30 2010 04:55 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:51 buhhy wrote:On August 30 2010 04:44 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:42 buhhy wrote:On August 28 2010 13:56 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 28 2010 13:39 Reechani wrote:
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I am transsexual and I agree, none of my friends know, one plays Starcraft 2 also, and I am too afraid to tell them because I like having them as friends and I am afraid that if I tell them I will lose them as friends. There are only a few people I know in real life who know... I plan on telling my friends, though. I'm not going to be in their face about it, but I have to know where they stand on it. I don't think I could ever be friends with someone who's prejudiced against something that's a part of who I am. EDIT: I just reread my post and noticed that I come across as a bit prejudiced myself. I don't mean to... I just don't want to associate myself with hateful, closed-minded people. Just curious, what type of transgender are you? The feminine type or the masculine type? And wow... there's a pretty diverse population on tl.net. MtF. Why do you ask? I don't mean that. I mean were you feminine as a child? Oh... I guess. I mean, I'm not and have never been "flaming," but yeah, I've always been on the feminine side. For as long as I can remember, I've always been effeminate in mindset, but I've only recently started changing my physical appearance to match that. How have you started to change your body? Like what did you start with first? I have been trying to grow my hair long but it's going slow and I want to change more. The very first thing I did was lose weight. I used to be about 200 pounds, but now I'm down to 135 or so. I'm about 5'9", by the way. I've also experimented with body hair removal, but it's honestly such a hassle that I'm just letting it go for now. I'm going to get electrolysis on my face and maybe other areas of my body eventually... I'm also trying to grow my hair out, but it's taking a long time. A few months ago, my hair actually stopped growing completely for some reason. Now I'm taking a special vitamin for it (GNC's Women's Ultra Nourishair) and it's growing again. I'm thinking of getting my ears pierced soon, and I'm also considering getting my eyebrows waxed regularly. Have you done anything besides changing your hair? No, I want to lose weight but I'm not sure where to start with that, I have also experimented with hair removal a little and I continue to do it, other than that I haven't really done anything I'm no doctor so take this advice with a grain of salt, but I was able to lose nearly 70 pounds in about six months just by eating less and more healthily. I didn't even have to exercise that much because I didn't want to get muscles. The most important thing you have to realize about weight loss is that it's more than just a diet; it's a permanent lifestyle change. A lot of people seem to be under the delusion that you can diet, lose weight, and then go back to your old eating habits and stay skinny. That's completely 100% false. If you want to lose weight, you just have to be committed to it. Another thing you could look into is makeup. I haven't learned how to use it myself yet, but I know that you can disguise angular, manly features with the right makeup application.
My advice to both of you is to begin voice practice as early as you can, it helps a lot getting into a routine early, and will help transition if you start now rather than later (assuming you transition).
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On August 30 2010 06:02 Dark.Carnival wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 05:53 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:39 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 05:33 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:08 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 04:54 Zoroth wrote:I was attempting to say that the state of "gay", which from a certain perspective could be viewed as a 1-word label for "I choose not to have reproductively compatible sexual relations", would be the end of humanity if 100% of people chose it. Thankfully, in our modern day society, we don't need to have compatible sexual relations in order to reproduce. I'm glad someone finally brought that up, I was going to say it but yea, it is still quite possible to reproduce without being in a relationship or even without having sex On August 30 2010 04:55 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:51 buhhy wrote:On August 30 2010 04:44 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:42 buhhy wrote:On August 28 2010 13:56 iamahydralisk wrote:
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There are only a few people I know in real life who know... I plan on telling my friends, though. I'm not going to be in their face about it, but I have to know where they stand on it. I don't think I could ever be friends with someone who's prejudiced against something that's a part of who I am.
EDIT: I just reread my post and noticed that I come across as a bit prejudiced myself. I don't mean to... I just don't want to associate myself with hateful, closed-minded people. Just curious, what type of transgender are you? The feminine type or the masculine type? And wow... there's a pretty diverse population on tl.net. MtF. Why do you ask? I don't mean that. I mean were you feminine as a child? Oh... I guess. I mean, I'm not and have never been "flaming," but yeah, I've always been on the feminine side. For as long as I can remember, I've always been effeminate in mindset, but I've only recently started changing my physical appearance to match that. How have you started to change your body? Like what did you start with first? I have been trying to grow my hair long but it's going slow and I want to change more. The very first thing I did was lose weight. I used to be about 200 pounds, but now I'm down to 135 or so. I'm about 5'9", by the way. I've also experimented with body hair removal, but it's honestly such a hassle that I'm just letting it go for now. I'm going to get electrolysis on my face and maybe other areas of my body eventually... I'm also trying to grow my hair out, but it's taking a long time. A few months ago, my hair actually stopped growing completely for some reason. Now I'm taking a special vitamin for it (GNC's Women's Ultra Nourishair) and it's growing again. I'm thinking of getting my ears pierced soon, and I'm also considering getting my eyebrows waxed regularly. Have you done anything besides changing your hair? No, I want to lose weight but I'm not sure where to start with that, I have also experimented with hair removal a little and I continue to do it, other than that I haven't really done anything I'm no doctor so take this advice with a grain of salt, but I was able to lose nearly 70 pounds in about six months just by eating less and more healthily. I didn't even have to exercise that much because I didn't want to get muscles. The most important thing you have to realize about weight loss is that it's more than just a diet; it's a permanent lifestyle change. A lot of people seem to be under the delusion that you can diet, lose weight, and then go back to your old eating habits and stay skinny. That's completely 100% false. If you want to lose weight, you just have to be committed to it. Another thing you could look into is makeup. I haven't learned how to use it myself yet, but I know that you can disguise angular, manly features with the right makeup application. My advice to both of you is to begin voice practice as early as you can, it helps a lot getting into a routine early, and will help transition if you start now rather than later (assuming you transition).
I honestly don't know if I'm going to fully transition... It's complicated. Like, I don't feel comfortable as a male, but I'm not entirely positive that I'd be happier as a female, either (I think I would be, though). I think I may be mentally intersexed, if that's even possible... I really just don't know.
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On August 30 2010 04:12 Masamune wrote:
If everyone straight on TL was offered $10,000 to get their dick sucked by another male, I’m sure some would take the offer and it wouldn’t automatically mean they were gay—perhaps just a little desperate for some extra cash.
Sign me up! I would even do the sucking!
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On August 28 2010 08:07 Vain wrote:This thread is going so fast O_O Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 03:26 pred470r wrote:3) For everyone else to ask questions. Want to know if gaydar really exists? Want to know how gays figure out who gets to be on top or the bottom? Why do gays talk with a lisp anyway? Does Mora really have a crush on Incontrol? I have a question regarding #3 If I sleep with a ladyboy a.k.a transvestite and like it, does that make me gay? A transvestite is/was a man right? so unless your a woman i think it does
If you are going to use trans* labels, please use the correct terms.
Transvestite == man (or woman) who dresses as the opposite gender purely for sexual gratification - ie, dresses to get off
Transsexual == man or woman who's main goal is to live as the opposite gender, primarily to bring their mind and body into congruence. They can be pre-operational (before gender reassignment), post-operational (after gender reassignment), non-operational (never going to have gender reassignment) or any of a number of other status' about their actual organs (like a MtF being castrated but not opting to proceed further).
Intersex == man or woman who is born as one biological gender, but at puberty begins showing signs of the opposite gender. Example: at 16 a boy starts developing breasts, or a girl starts getting facial hair
Transgender == a general catchphrase for any person who does not conform to society's norms about gender identity.
Drag-queens would fit into the Transvestite category mostly, but there are some differences, like RuPaul.
Transsexuals who get called transvestites are almost always going to feel insulted. So will transvestites that are called transsexuals.
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This is just an arbitrary thought that I was kinda curious about.
Let's assume that being gay is genetic.
If that is true then isn't it a "disorder"(in the reproductive sense) that is worse than having a mental illness or most other genetic diseases?
The more open people are about being gay, the faster the whole idea of being gay will be a thing of the past and in some obscure section of the history book. Simply because it's something that cannot be passed on to the next generation because of the lack of a next generation.
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On August 30 2010 06:24 Apexplayer wrote:
This is just an arbitrary thought that I was kinda curious about.
Let's assume that being gay is genetic.
If that is true then isn't it a "disorder"(in the reproductive sense) that is worse than having a mental illness or most other genetic diseases?
The more open people are about being gay, the faster the whole idea of being gay will be a thing of the past and in some obscure section of the history book. Simply because it's something that cannot be passed on to the next generation because of the lack of a next generation.
Before you talk about genetics, study genetics first. There's something called recessive traits.
That's not to say it's definitely genetic, it's just that such an argument is invalid. The only thing you could say is that the gene (if there is one) is not dominant
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On August 28 2010 13:08 iamahydralisk wrote:
I just thought I'd post and say hey. I'm a bisexual (I think) and transgendered (not necessarily transsexual but it's pretty likely) individual. I think this is an amazing thread and I wish that people in real life were half as accepting as the TL community :3
You would be surprised how many people are accepting of my being transgendered in Massachusetts. I lived in a medium city for 14 years prior to moving to the small town I am in now, and I have yet to be ridiculed openly in public, though I know that kids and parents sometimes talk behind my back, as if I cannot hear them. I have never been the victim or in danger of being a victim of a hate-related crime, thank god.
The fact is that unless people come out and start speaking out more (just like every other minority has had to do), then things will never change.
I kept my past hidden when I started streaming because of the same general reasons gays stay in the closet. When Raelcun posted his "omgitsatarp voicechangerobviously" crap, it angered me the same way it would if someone who was gay was being outed.
Being gay is not a bad thing, but there is still a large portion of the population who are ignorant and believe that it is, that homosexuality is an abomination. They conveniently leave out the Roman orgies, and that homosexuality in every part of nature.
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On August 30 2010 06:09 iamahydralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 06:02 Dark.Carnival wrote:On August 30 2010 05:53 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:39 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 05:33 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:08 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 04:54 Zoroth wrote:I was attempting to say that the state of "gay", which from a certain perspective could be viewed as a 1-word label for "I choose not to have reproductively compatible sexual relations", would be the end of humanity if 100% of people chose it. Thankfully, in our modern day society, we don't need to have compatible sexual relations in order to reproduce. I'm glad someone finally brought that up, I was going to say it but yea, it is still quite possible to reproduce without being in a relationship or even without having sex On August 30 2010 04:55 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:51 buhhy wrote:On August 30 2010 04:44 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:42 buhhy wrote:
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Just curious, what type of transgender are you? The feminine type or the masculine type?
And wow... there's a pretty diverse population on tl.net. MtF. Why do you ask? I don't mean that. I mean were you feminine as a child? Oh... I guess. I mean, I'm not and have never been "flaming," but yeah, I've always been on the feminine side. For as long as I can remember, I've always been effeminate in mindset, but I've only recently started changing my physical appearance to match that. How have you started to change your body? Like what did you start with first? I have been trying to grow my hair long but it's going slow and I want to change more. The very first thing I did was lose weight. I used to be about 200 pounds, but now I'm down to 135 or so. I'm about 5'9", by the way. I've also experimented with body hair removal, but it's honestly such a hassle that I'm just letting it go for now. I'm going to get electrolysis on my face and maybe other areas of my body eventually... I'm also trying to grow my hair out, but it's taking a long time. A few months ago, my hair actually stopped growing completely for some reason. Now I'm taking a special vitamin for it (GNC's Women's Ultra Nourishair) and it's growing again. I'm thinking of getting my ears pierced soon, and I'm also considering getting my eyebrows waxed regularly. Have you done anything besides changing your hair? No, I want to lose weight but I'm not sure where to start with that, I have also experimented with hair removal a little and I continue to do it, other than that I haven't really done anything I'm no doctor so take this advice with a grain of salt, but I was able to lose nearly 70 pounds in about six months just by eating less and more healthily. I didn't even have to exercise that much because I didn't want to get muscles. The most important thing you have to realize about weight loss is that it's more than just a diet; it's a permanent lifestyle change. A lot of people seem to be under the delusion that you can diet, lose weight, and then go back to your old eating habits and stay skinny. That's completely 100% false. If you want to lose weight, you just have to be committed to it. Another thing you could look into is makeup. I haven't learned how to use it myself yet, but I know that you can disguise angular, manly features with the right makeup application. My advice to both of you is to begin voice practice as early as you can, it helps a lot getting into a routine early, and will help transition if you start now rather than later (assuming you transition). I honestly don't know if I'm going to fully transition... It's complicated. Like, I don't feel comfortable as a male, but I'm not entirely positive that I'd be happier as a female, either (I think I would be, though). I think I may be mentally intersexed, if that's even possible... I really just don't know.
I was in a somewhat similar position, I was increasingly miserable as a male, but the thought of transitioning and living female didn't seem like it would make me happier. Eventually I realized I needed to change something, so I came out to my parents and started transition (albeit very slowly, still not much progress). I've been much, much happier, and looking back I wish I had decided to start earlier. You might be able to work things out on your own, if not, finding a therapist will help, especially someone who has had experience with transgender patients. Also, you don't have to fully transition, whatever makes you happy is the goal.
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On August 30 2010 06:41 Dark.Carnival wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 06:09 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 06:02 Dark.Carnival wrote:On August 30 2010 05:53 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:39 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 05:33 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:08 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 04:54 Zoroth wrote:I was attempting to say that the state of "gay", which from a certain perspective could be viewed as a 1-word label for "I choose not to have reproductively compatible sexual relations", would be the end of humanity if 100% of people chose it. Thankfully, in our modern day society, we don't need to have compatible sexual relations in order to reproduce. I'm glad someone finally brought that up, I was going to say it but yea, it is still quite possible to reproduce without being in a relationship or even without having sex On August 30 2010 04:55 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:51 buhhy wrote:On August 30 2010 04:44 iamahydralisk wrote:
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MtF. Why do you ask? I don't mean that. I mean were you feminine as a child? Oh... I guess. I mean, I'm not and have never been "flaming," but yeah, I've always been on the feminine side. For as long as I can remember, I've always been effeminate in mindset, but I've only recently started changing my physical appearance to match that. How have you started to change your body? Like what did you start with first? I have been trying to grow my hair long but it's going slow and I want to change more. The very first thing I did was lose weight. I used to be about 200 pounds, but now I'm down to 135 or so. I'm about 5'9", by the way. I've also experimented with body hair removal, but it's honestly such a hassle that I'm just letting it go for now. I'm going to get electrolysis on my face and maybe other areas of my body eventually... I'm also trying to grow my hair out, but it's taking a long time. A few months ago, my hair actually stopped growing completely for some reason. Now I'm taking a special vitamin for it (GNC's Women's Ultra Nourishair) and it's growing again. I'm thinking of getting my ears pierced soon, and I'm also considering getting my eyebrows waxed regularly. Have you done anything besides changing your hair? No, I want to lose weight but I'm not sure where to start with that, I have also experimented with hair removal a little and I continue to do it, other than that I haven't really done anything I'm no doctor so take this advice with a grain of salt, but I was able to lose nearly 70 pounds in about six months just by eating less and more healthily. I didn't even have to exercise that much because I didn't want to get muscles. The most important thing you have to realize about weight loss is that it's more than just a diet; it's a permanent lifestyle change. A lot of people seem to be under the delusion that you can diet, lose weight, and then go back to your old eating habits and stay skinny. That's completely 100% false. If you want to lose weight, you just have to be committed to it. Another thing you could look into is makeup. I haven't learned how to use it myself yet, but I know that you can disguise angular, manly features with the right makeup application. My advice to both of you is to begin voice practice as early as you can, it helps a lot getting into a routine early, and will help transition if you start now rather than later (assuming you transition). I honestly don't know if I'm going to fully transition... It's complicated. Like, I don't feel comfortable as a male, but I'm not entirely positive that I'd be happier as a female, either (I think I would be, though). I think I may be mentally intersexed, if that's even possible... I really just don't know. I was in a somewhat similar position, I was increasingly miserable as a male, but the thought of transitioning and living female didn't seem like it would make me happier. Eventually I realized I needed to change something, so I came out to my parents and started transition (albeit very slowly, still not much progress). I've been much, much happier, and looking back I wish I had decided to start earlier. You might be able to work things out on your own, if not, finding a therapist will help, especially someone who has had experience with transgender patients. Also, you don't have to fully transition, whatever makes you happy is the goal.
I've been becoming increasingly miserable as a male ever since my transgender-related feelings appeared (nine years ago), so I know exactly where you're coming from there... And I have an appointment with an LGBT friendly therapist soon, so at least I'm on the road to figuring out what makes me happy. I honestly feel like I should start transitioning ASAP even though I'm not really ready because... Well, I feel like I'll hate myself if I wait too long to pass and then realize it's what I wanted all along. Does that make any sense?
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And I have an appointment with an LGBT friendly therapist soon
Just out of curiosity, there are homophobic shrinks? I mean psychologists, shouldn't they be like, all of them tolerant?
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On August 30 2010 06:29 Danger_Duck wrote:
Before you talk about genetics, study genetics first. There's something called recessive traits.
That's not to say it's definitely genetic, it's just that such an argument is invalid. The only thing you could say is that the gene (if there is one) is not dominant
I have studied genetics, thanks for the needless flame. If you studied genetics you would know that there isn't only recessive and dominant genes. The majority of gay people will tell you that they believe their sexuality is genetic, and people are finding evidence for this constantly. Maybe you have heard of the choice vs genes controversy?
Aside from the flame. It is, reproductively, and unwanted trait which does cause the % of the trait in the population to diminish over time, recessive, dominant, co-dominant or not.
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On August 30 2010 06:52 iamahydralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 06:41 Dark.Carnival wrote:On August 30 2010 06:09 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 06:02 Dark.Carnival wrote:On August 30 2010 05:53 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:39 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 05:33 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 05:08 Reechani wrote:On August 30 2010 04:54 Zoroth wrote:I was attempting to say that the state of "gay", which from a certain perspective could be viewed as a 1-word label for "I choose not to have reproductively compatible sexual relations", would be the end of humanity if 100% of people chose it. Thankfully, in our modern day society, we don't need to have compatible sexual relations in order to reproduce. I'm glad someone finally brought that up, I was going to say it but yea, it is still quite possible to reproduce without being in a relationship or even without having sex On August 30 2010 04:55 iamahydralisk wrote:On August 30 2010 04:51 buhhy wrote:
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I don't mean that. I mean were you feminine as a child? Oh... I guess. I mean, I'm not and have never been "flaming," but yeah, I've always been on the feminine side. For as long as I can remember, I've always been effeminate in mindset, but I've only recently started changing my physical appearance to match that. How have you started to change your body? Like what did you start with first? I have been trying to grow my hair long but it's going slow and I want to change more. The very first thing I did was lose weight. I used to be about 200 pounds, but now I'm down to 135 or so. I'm about 5'9", by the way. I've also experimented with body hair removal, but it's honestly such a hassle that I'm just letting it go for now. I'm going to get electrolysis on my face and maybe other areas of my body eventually... I'm also trying to grow my hair out, but it's taking a long time. A few months ago, my hair actually stopped growing completely for some reason. Now I'm taking a special vitamin for it (GNC's Women's Ultra Nourishair) and it's growing again. I'm thinking of getting my ears pierced soon, and I'm also considering getting my eyebrows waxed regularly. Have you done anything besides changing your hair? No, I want to lose weight but I'm not sure where to start with that, I have also experimented with hair removal a little and I continue to do it, other than that I haven't really done anything I'm no doctor so take this advice with a grain of salt, but I was able to lose nearly 70 pounds in about six months just by eating less and more healthily. I didn't even have to exercise that much because I didn't want to get muscles. The most important thing you have to realize about weight loss is that it's more than just a diet; it's a permanent lifestyle change. A lot of people seem to be under the delusion that you can diet, lose weight, and then go back to your old eating habits and stay skinny. That's completely 100% false. If you want to lose weight, you just have to be committed to it. Another thing you could look into is makeup. I haven't learned how to use it myself yet, but I know that you can disguise angular, manly features with the right makeup application. My advice to both of you is to begin voice practice as early as you can, it helps a lot getting into a routine early, and will help transition if you start now rather than later (assuming you transition). I honestly don't know if I'm going to fully transition... It's complicated. Like, I don't feel comfortable as a male, but I'm not entirely positive that I'd be happier as a female, either (I think I would be, though). I think I may be mentally intersexed, if that's even possible... I really just don't know. I was in a somewhat similar position, I was increasingly miserable as a male, but the thought of transitioning and living female didn't seem like it would make me happier. Eventually I realized I needed to change something, so I came out to my parents and started transition (albeit very slowly, still not much progress). I've been much, much happier, and looking back I wish I had decided to start earlier. You might be able to work things out on your own, if not, finding a therapist will help, especially someone who has had experience with transgender patients. Also, you don't have to fully transition, whatever makes you happy is the goal. I've been becoming increasingly miserable as a male ever since my transgender-related feelings appeared (nine years ago), so I know exactly where you're coming from there... And I have an appointment with an LGBT friendly therapist soon, so at least I'm on the road to figuring out what makes me happy. I honestly feel like I should start transitioning ASAP even though I'm not really ready because... Well, I feel like I'll hate myself if I wait too long to pass and then realize it's what I wanted all along. Does that make any sense?
Wait until you see the therapist, they will help sort out what you're feeling. For transition, you don't have to start if you aren't ready, but you can do small things like shaving your legs, growing your hair out etc. They don't seem like much, but they can be positive reinforcements.
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On August 30 2010 06:58 pikezeppelin wrote:Just out of curiosity, there are homophobic shrinks? I mean psychologists, shouldn't they be like, all of them tolerant?
Well, when I said "LGBT friendly," I meant something more like "experienced with LGBT issues." I should have clarified more... Sorry about that.
Homophobic psychologists probably do exist, though.
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I'm quite new to the TL community so this thread does come as a surprise to me; in a good way :>. I must say I have to utmost respect for Mona as well as all the sensible and open posters who've posted before me~
On my first year of college (3 years ago) I used to live in an apt-style residence (@ McGill) and I had to share my room with another guy. We actually had 3 rooms: a bedroom, living room and kitchen, and what most in the residence chose to do was to have one have the bedroom for half the semester and then rotate, but we didn't think much of it at the time. My roommate was mostly brought up by his mother and 2 older sisters and so he naturally seemed very effeminate in the way he talked, acted, the trends he would follow relating to pop culture and whatnot~ He eventually met this friend who was actually gay, though not flamboyant in the least, and they would often study with each other till the early hours in the morning, but I still did not think much of it then. I must say I am pretty oblivious when it comes to these things  (just signals in general), mostly because I genuinely couldn't care less (live and let live is my #1 motto!). There was a lot of chatter back in high school about his sexual orientation but nobody really ever knew. We lived in a small town ala Star's Hollow (<3 GG) where everybody knew everybody, gossip was rampant (then again, I'm sure it's the same in every high school) and people were generally very conservative, so the environment might not have been most favorable to his "coming out".
A year had passed and we grew tired of sharing our bedroom so we split. A year after, I meet up with him and another close friend of ours and she slips out "there are a few really cute guys I want you to meet!" over a cafe~ And that's how I found out, lol. Now I'm wondering if I should have approached him about it personally afterwards. I know it must be hard to come to terms with your sexuality given the way the current society portrays homosexuality, so in his place, would he have wanted me to actually bring it up in a conversation just so I could show him that I am totally comfortable with him being gay? How important was it for you guys to have someone to talk to when you found out?
Another close friend of mine just recently announced that he was Bi and had been reenacting the Renaissance period with another male friend, even though he is going out with a girl. I did tell him I had no problems with it and that it did not change our relationship in the slightest but another friend of ours has been an adept of employing rude humor ever since (i.e. let's say we're crashing at someone's, the topic of rape will always come up). Now we all laugh about it, but I'm wondering, does the teasing ever get old and have you ever lashed out back at someone for being too hurtful in his comments thinking you were totally okay with it?
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On August 27 2010 22:24 Mora wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 21:38 Badjas wrote:Does it irk you when the word 'gay' is used as an insult? Yesterday I was playing transformice (fuck yeah) and I called out a map for being gay (new custom maps feature brings out the worst in mice). I followed up stating that I don't mean to offend homosexuals. I am not conscious enough to keep me from using gay as an insult, just yet, but I'm getting there The gaming world is full of such things, and I also post this in light of the recent discussion of using the word 'rape' in description of matches and other gamer slang. So being a gaming gay guy, you must see this quite a lot. I do! And of course, i have an opinion! haha This may seem contradictory, but i'll try with the short answer and if you need a longer one, inform me. I am not offended by the usage of the word 'gay' in a derogatory fashion, in any capacity. Infact, i use the expression myself. Infact, i call a lot of people fags. (and i don't begrudge heterosexuals using that word either). That being said, the word being used in that fashion is a definite contributor to our psychological problems of self-acceptance. i guess at the end of day, i think people just need to suck it up and not get needlessly offended. There are more difficult trials in life, that one is just one of the requisite ones of being homosexual.
Shit dude. I have a lot of respect for you. I really appreciate your attitude and I think it's helping a lot of people in this forum be more accepting of 'homosexuals'.
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