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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
July 24 2010 14:29 GMT
#1801
I started downing half a gallon of whole milk a day to dedicate myself completely to this bulk. All four of my lifts (squat, press, bench, dead) are starting to slow down, and I've already had to reset two of them. I'm hoping to squeeze at least another 60 pounds out of the squat, bench, and dead, but I know that's optimistic for my bench.

Someone asked me earlier why my chin-ups were so much stronger than my pull-ups. I think it's the bicep involvement; I've always had pretty strong biceps. On the other hand, I'd never really trained my lats before this, which would make my pull-ups the weaker of the two.

From Monday I'm starting week six. I feel good going into it; my squat form improved dramatically after the 10% reset, and I'm sure my overhead press will do the same. I'm most looking forward to chin-ups though. They've become my favorite exercise.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 15:51:33
July 24 2010 15:49 GMT
#1802
^how much do you weigh again?
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
July 24 2010 15:54 GMT
#1803
On July 25 2010 00:49 unknown.sam wrote:
^how much do you weigh again?


85 kilograms/187 pounds at 190cm tall/6'3.

Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 22:31:15
July 24 2010 22:30 GMT
#1804
so, eshlow, there is a part of my body that is chronically tight but i don't really know how to stretch it
it's on the outside of my left leg, next to my knee
god, i don't know how to describe it
but if i sit like this:

[image loading]


except with my legs farther out(but feet still together), and lean forward at all, it REALLY feels tight and bad on my left leg. kind of on the bottom, on the outside, around the area of the knee
i think it's related to the big tendon(is that a tendon or a bone? i think it's a tendon) that runs down my leg

i also feel it in other stretches such as pigeon pose

but none of them actually feel like they stretch it, they just feel like they make it uncomfortable

i wish i could describe this better
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States749 Posts
July 24 2010 22:35 GMT
#1805
I'd love to just gain weight.

I'm 5'7
130pounds
5.5% body fat
I'd like to gain 5-10 pounds.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 24 2010 23:32 GMT
#1806
On July 24 2010 23:29 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Someone asked me earlier why my chin-ups were so much stronger than my pull-ups. I think it's the bicep involvement; I've always had pretty strong biceps. On the other hand, I'd never really trained my lats before this, which would make my pull-ups the weaker of the two.


I had the same problem after training for a while. My chin-ups were so much better than my pull-ups, but for me it was because my forearms would die almost immediately when I did pull-ups, even when during deadlifts and the like my forearms were perfectly fine. I just dedicated myself to getting better and greasing the groove and my pull-ups have gone up so much over the past month or two.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 25 2010 04:04 GMT
#1807
On July 25 2010 07:30 travis wrote:
so, eshlow, there is a part of my body that is chronically tight but i don't really know how to stretch it
it's on the outside of my left leg, next to my knee
god, i don't know how to describe it
but if i sit like this:

[image loading]


except with my legs farther out(but feet still together), and lean forward at all, it REALLY feels tight and bad on my left leg. kind of on the bottom, on the outside, around the area of the knee
i think it's related to the big tendon(is that a tendon or a bone? i think it's a tendon) that runs down my leg

i also feel it in other stretches such as pigeon pose

but none of them actually feel like they stretch it, they just feel like they make it uncomfortable

i wish i could describe this better


Stretch/foam roll your glutes and tensor fasciae latae + IT band

Can also use a tennis ball or lacrosse to hit up those specific muscles/connective tissues

The "tendon" you're feeling is the IT band coming from your hip all the way down and crossing the tibiofemoral joint to insert down there.

On July 25 2010 07:35 sva wrote:
I'd love to just gain weight.

I'm 5'7
130pounds
5.5% body fat
I'd like to gain 5-10 pounds.


Read the OP!!

Starting strength + massive amounts of food
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 25 2010 04:44 GMT
#1808
ok thanks eshlow
i don't have a foam roller sadly
i prolly do have a tennis ball somewhere though, i guess i could use that

what do you think of these stretches? i know that the 3rd one he does really does seem to hit a lot of areas thare probably good for me

AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 05:00:27
July 25 2010 04:57 GMT
#1809
I hurt this part of my hand over two weeks ago. My coach told me to get it checked out. (bad use of paint i know)


[image loading]


Would you recommend anything to help recovery? I been icing and using some heat with ibuprofen.

by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 05:03:46
July 25 2010 05:03 GMT
#1810
On July 25 2010 08:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 23:29 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Someone asked me earlier why my chin-ups were so much stronger than my pull-ups. I think it's the bicep involvement; I've always had pretty strong biceps. On the other hand, I'd never really trained my lats before this, which would make my pull-ups the weaker of the two.


I had the same problem after training for a while. My chin-ups were so much better than my pull-ups, but for me it was because my forearms would die almost immediately when I did pull-ups, even when during deadlifts and the like my forearms were perfectly fine. I just dedicated myself to getting better and greasing the groove and my pull-ups have gone up so much over the past month or two.


Yeah, I started really bad at both. When I first started training, I had 1-2 chin-ups and .5 pull-ups in me fully rested. Now I can bust out 10 unassisted unkipped chin-ups and probably around 5-6 unassisted pull-ups. They're the exercises which have developed the most for me, and they're the ones I look forward to most when I hit the gym.

This is kind of why I don't like Wednesdays . Instead of pull-ups and chin-ups, I do deadlifts. The Wednesdays on which I do squats, presses, and deads are particularly boring for me.


Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 25 2010 05:14 GMT
#1811
aon.dimsun, in what way did you "hurt" it?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 05:26:20
July 25 2010 05:23 GMT
#1812
i missed a clean with straps on, my hand hit my knee since i couldnt drop it.


BTW i think i found the biggest squat jerk video. 237!!!!!! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/user/kickdim#p/a/f/0/Rfo3w-bx1_0
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
July 25 2010 07:13 GMT
#1813
^lol there were so many times when i thought it was GG
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 25 2010 07:28 GMT
#1814
On July 25 2010 13:44 travis wrote:
ok thanks eshlow
i don't have a foam roller sadly
i prolly do have a tennis ball somewhere though, i guess i could use that

what do you think of these stretches? i know that the 3rd one he does really does seem to hit a lot of areas thare probably good for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ur0Yn53J-A&feature=related


All of them work...

I'd give your whole body a foam roller/massage/ball work over though... its useful to mobilize all the tissues
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 25 2010 07:29 GMT
#1815
On July 25 2010 13:57 AoN.DimSum wrote:
I hurt this part of my hand over two weeks ago. My coach told me to get it checked out. (bad use of paint i know)


[image loading]


Would you recommend anything to help recovery? I been icing and using some heat with ibuprofen.



I'd get it checked. That's pretty vague picture?

What movements hurt?

Anything over on the thumb side generally isn't good ebcause it doesn't get a lot of blood supply so it heals slower or may not heal well.

Probably a good idea to get it checked out by a professional
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 07:50:28
July 25 2010 07:47 GMT
#1816
So I've been doing the ss for olympic lifters program (2 days of just the competition lifts, 2 days of 5x3 low-bar squat+pressing motion+pulling motion) and my knees hurt basically fucking always. Usually when I get into training it stops but immediately afterword I feel like they'll implode. I also do 25-30 hours of fairly physical labor per week which is definitely not helping recovery. Is there anything I can do to make my knees not constantly hurting that doesn't involve taking 4 ibuprofen per day? I did 20 snatches in about 45 minutes and I feel like dying just standing up and air-squatting.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 25 2010 08:08 GMT
#1817
On July 25 2010 16:47 Drowsy wrote:
So I've been doing the ss for olympic lifters program (2 days of just the competition lifts, 2 days of 5x3 low-bar squat+pressing motion+pulling motion) and my knees hurt basically fucking always. Usually when I get into training it stops but immediately afterword I feel like they'll implode. I also do 25-30 hours of fairly physical labor per week which is definitely not helping recovery. Is there anything I can do to make my knees not constantly hurting that doesn't involve taking 4 ibuprofen per day? I did 20 snatches in about 45 minutes and I feel like dying just standing up and air-squatting.


Too much volume man...

You're going to have to cut back lifting because of your manual labor-ish job in the first place.. and then trying to add extra volume on top of that is suicide.

I'd take a break for atl east a week, and then work back into it slowly... not so much volume either.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
deerrreas
Profile Joined July 2010
11 Posts
July 25 2010 15:30 GMT
#1818
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 25 2010 16:45 GMT
#1819
On July 26 2010 00:30 deerrreas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 07:35 sva wrote:
I'd love to just gain weight.

I'm 5'7
130pounds
5.5% body fat
I'd like to gain 5-10 pounds.




The rules are simple



1) To increase body mass you need to consume more calories than you use.

2) To lose body fat you need to consume fewer calories than you use.

And train insane!!!!

Then you'll gorw.

http://www.stayfitbug.com/the-fitness-bug/getting-your-girl-to-do-yoga-will-lead-to-better-sex/

http://www.stayfitbug.com/the-fitness-bug/the-done-for-you-hardgainers-workout-routine-plan-meal-plan/


Or he could just read the OP...
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 17:05:54
July 25 2010 17:02 GMT
#1820
This stayfitbug site actually really bugs me. I haven't found much useful stuff in there, and everything is explained in 200-300 words, so it tells you nothing actually.

Ok, I just browsed through deerrreas posting history and in 10 out of 11 posts he links to this site. Pretty sure this is just advertising. I'll report this and see what the mods think.

I just realize now that the linked articles often don't have anything to do with the question (YOGA LEADS TO BETTER SEX GOGOGO).
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
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