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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
July 23 2010 15:38 GMT
#1781
Wednesday: 134.2 lbs
Friday (today): 138.0 lbs

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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
July 23 2010 16:05 GMT
#1782
On July 23 2010 18:22 Energies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 15:16 decafchicken wrote:
Catching up on my calories via beer. good idea or best idea?


Superb idea, I will join you!


Carb flooding right?


mOnion.


You sir. Are disgusting. 4 pounds in half a week. Sounds unreal.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 16:47:41
July 23 2010 16:40 GMT
#1783
the weights for the overhead press was just sooooo today. form was absolutely terrible. my whole body was shaking like crazy once the bar went overhead lol. i had such a hard time balancing the bar my quads ended up getting taxed a ton. only ended up doing 3x4 but it sure was fun though

@eshlow: avoid wheat products?! i've been eating wheat bread for like over a year now thinking it was healthy...what kind of bread do you suggest then if wheat/white bread are no good?
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
July 23 2010 16:54 GMT
#1784
Ok so I've got my hands on Joel Marions Xtreme fat loss diet, if you guys knows who he is, and I want to hear your thoughts about this diet. I will keep it quite short since he writes about a lot of stuff. Basically this program is designed to burn as much fat as possible in 25 days. There is 5 cycles and each cycle is 5 days long and you will be working out every single day.

This is how each cycle looks like in short:
+ Show Spoiler +
The cheat day: The cycle begins with the cheat day. You can eat everything you want without stuffing yourself. Eat throughout the day and eat until you are satisfied, not until you feel discomfort, and don't consume alcohol. You will perform a density training in the afternoon to build muscle during this day.

The fast day: You won't eat a single thing. Nothing at all. The only things you can consume during the day is water or some other non-calorie fluids and BCAAs. During this day you will burn the most fat so you will be doing a lactic acid workout, a HIIT session and one lower intensity cardio session. During lactic acid training you will be lifting the weights very slow, 3-4 seconds, and lower them pretty fast, usually 1 second. In short, you will be doing this because when you are lifting the body will create lactic acid and as lactic acid is created the production and release of growth hormone increases. The HIIT and cardio sessions is to speed up the fat loss.

The shake day: Consume twio protein+carbs shake in the morning and threeprotein+fat shakes in the afternoon. As for training you will be doing some strength-based resistance training in addition to one lower intensity cardio session.

The moderate carb day: Eat two meals in the morning containing protein+carbs, eat three meals containing protein+fat in the afternoon. Ideally you should be doing a dynamic training (metabolic circuits) in the morning followed by a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.

The protein-only depletion day: Eat 5 meals of protein during the day and perform a lactic acid training and a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.


You can eat some vegetables every day except the fast day.


I've done this for two weeks now and i've lost like 4-5 pounds in body weight but there is no way I can do all these workouts every day, it's just too much. Not only do you work out every day, each workout have 7-9 exercisesl with 2-5 sets and pretty high reps as well. Add two HIIT sessions and three cardio sessions and I felt sooo burned out after 1½ cycles. Anyway your thoughts on this?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 23 2010 17:04 GMT
#1785
On July 24 2010 01:40 unknown.sam wrote:
the weights for the overhead press was just sooooo today. form was absolutely terrible. my whole body was shaking like crazy once the bar went overhead lol. i had such a hard time balancing the bar my quads ended up getting taxed a ton. only ended up doing 3x4 but it sure was fun though

@eshlow: avoid wheat products?! i've been eating wheat bread for like over a year now thinking it was healthy...what kind of bread do you suggest then if wheat/white bread are no good?


No bread is ideal. But if must eat bread then either go with white bread or sprouted bread. Sprouted obviously being a bit superior.... but really you don't really need bread if you're eating well.

Reason being that wheat especially has a lot of gut irritants that cause a lot of inflammation.

On July 24 2010 01:54 Necosarius wrote:
Ok so I've got my hands on Joel Marions Xtreme fat loss diet, if you guys knows who he is, and I want to hear your thoughts about this diet. I will keep it quite short since he writes about a lot of stuff. Basically this program is designed to burn as much fat as possible in 25 days. There is 5 cycles and each cycle is 5 days long and you will be working out every single day.

This is how each cycle looks like in short:
+ Show Spoiler +
The cheat day: The cycle begins with the cheat day. You can eat everything you want without stuffing yourself. Eat throughout the day and eat until you are satisfied, not until you feel discomfort, and don't consume alcohol. You will perform a density training in the afternoon to build muscle during this day.

The fast day: You won't eat a single thing. Nothing at all. The only things you can consume during the day is water or some other non-calorie fluids and BCAAs. During this day you will burn the most fat so you will be doing a lactic acid workout, a HIIT session and one lower intensity cardio session. During lactic acid training you will be lifting the weights very slow, 3-4 seconds, and lower them pretty fast, usually 1 second. In short, you will be doing this because when you are lifting the body will create lactic acid and as lactic acid is created the production and release of growth hormone increases. The HIIT and cardio sessions is to speed up the fat loss.

The shake day: Consume twio protein+carbs shake in the morning and threeprotein+fat shakes in the afternoon. As for training you will be doing some strength-based resistance training in addition to one lower intensity cardio session.

The moderate carb day: Eat two meals in the morning containing protein+carbs, eat three meals containing protein+fat in the afternoon. Ideally you should be doing a dynamic training (metabolic circuits) in the morning followed by a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.

The protein-only depletion day: Eat 5 meals of protein during the day and perform a lactic acid training and a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.


You can eat some vegetables every day except the fast day.


I've done this for two weeks now and i've lost like 4-5 pounds in body weight but there is no way I can do all these workouts every day, it's just too much. Not only do you work out every day, each workout have 7-9 exercisesl with 2-5 sets and pretty high reps as well. Add two HIIT sessions and three cardio sessions and I felt sooo burned out after 1½ cycles. Anyway your thoughts on this?


Starting Strength + low carb diet, high protein, moderate fat
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 23:28:04
July 23 2010 17:29 GMT
#1786
In general, most of the fasting stuff is absolute crap. Some pop hippie shit that gained popularity without any scientific basis. It's harder to cheat yourself into a good diet than to force yourself to begin to like the actual foods.

edit:
Had problems with cleans so I went ahead and bought a 1x 48" wooden bar to practice technique.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
July 23 2010 17:40 GMT
#1787
On July 23 2010 22:38 eshlow wrote:
You guys do know that alcohol decreases testosterone levels, yes?


Not if it gets you laid

Squatting heavy as fuck today...gonna be Funnn
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 23 2010 17:40 GMT
#1788
On July 24 2010 01:54 Necosarius wrote:
Ok so I've got my hands on Joel Marions Xtreme fat loss diet, if you guys knows who he is, and I want to hear your thoughts about this diet. I will keep it quite short since he writes about a lot of stuff. Basically this program is designed to burn as much fat as possible in 25 days. There is 5 cycles and each cycle is 5 days long and you will be working out every single day.

This is how each cycle looks like in short:
+ Show Spoiler +
The cheat day: The cycle begins with the cheat day. You can eat everything you want without stuffing yourself. Eat throughout the day and eat until you are satisfied, not until you feel discomfort, and don't consume alcohol. You will perform a density training in the afternoon to build muscle during this day.

The fast day: You won't eat a single thing. Nothing at all. The only things you can consume during the day is water or some other non-calorie fluids and BCAAs. During this day you will burn the most fat so you will be doing a lactic acid workout, a HIIT session and one lower intensity cardio session. During lactic acid training you will be lifting the weights very slow, 3-4 seconds, and lower them pretty fast, usually 1 second. In short, you will be doing this because when you are lifting the body will create lactic acid and as lactic acid is created the production and release of growth hormone increases. The HIIT and cardio sessions is to speed up the fat loss.

The shake day: Consume twio protein+carbs shake in the morning and threeprotein+fat shakes in the afternoon. As for training you will be doing some strength-based resistance training in addition to one lower intensity cardio session.

The moderate carb day: Eat two meals in the morning containing protein+carbs, eat three meals containing protein+fat in the afternoon. Ideally you should be doing a dynamic training (metabolic circuits) in the morning followed by a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.

The protein-only depletion day: Eat 5 meals of protein during the day and perform a lactic acid training and a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.


You can eat some vegetables every day except the fast day.


I've done this for two weeks now and i've lost like 4-5 pounds in body weight but there is no way I can do all these workouts every day, it's just too much. Not only do you work out every day, each workout have 7-9 exercisesl with 2-5 sets and pretty high reps as well. Add two HIIT sessions and three cardio sessions and I felt sooo burned out after 1½ cycles. Anyway your thoughts on this?


My initial impression is that any day you don't eat is a bad idea.

I did watch a video recently that highlighted the actors' training for the Spartacus series, and they had nothing but 4 protein shakes a day apparently.

Weird stuff.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 18:16:10
July 23 2010 18:15 GMT
#1789
On July 24 2010 02:04 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 01:40 unknown.sam wrote:
the weights for the overhead press was just sooooo today. form was absolutely terrible. my whole body was shaking like crazy once the bar went overhead lol. i had such a hard time balancing the bar my quads ended up getting taxed a ton. only ended up doing 3x4 but it sure was fun though

@eshlow: avoid wheat products?! i've been eating wheat bread for like over a year now thinking it was healthy...what kind of bread do you suggest then if wheat/white bread are no good?


No bread is ideal. But if must eat bread then either go with white bread or sprouted bread. Sprouted obviously being a bit superior.... but really you don't really need bread if you're eating well.

Reason being that wheat especially has a lot of gut irritants that cause a lot of inflammation.

wow. i'm shocked...all the stuff i read (like maybe a year ago) said that wheat bread was healthier. so i guess since you're not a fan of grains, wholegrain bread is out of the picture too?

meh fuck the bread man. i'll just go buy me some fruit. i've been planning on having apples/pears/bananas/oranges for snacks in between meals rather than having a peanut butter sandwich. would that be too much sugar?
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
July 23 2010 20:17 GMT
#1790
With a nice big serving of pb is a personal favorite.

And yeah fuck that diet...anytime you're not eating enough and training hard is bad.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 23 2010 20:22 GMT
#1791
On July 24 2010 01:54 Necosarius wrote:
Ok so I've got my hands on Joel Marions Xtreme fat loss diet, if you guys knows who he is, and I want to hear your thoughts about this diet. I will keep it quite short since he writes about a lot of stuff. Basically this program is designed to burn as much fat as possible in 25 days. There is 5 cycles and each cycle is 5 days long and you will be working out every single day.

This is how each cycle looks like in short:
+ Show Spoiler +
The cheat day: The cycle begins with the cheat day. You can eat everything you want without stuffing yourself. Eat throughout the day and eat until you are satisfied, not until you feel discomfort, and don't consume alcohol. You will perform a density training in the afternoon to build muscle during this day.

The fast day: You won't eat a single thing. Nothing at all. The only things you can consume during the day is water or some other non-calorie fluids and BCAAs. During this day you will burn the most fat so you will be doing a lactic acid workout, a HIIT session and one lower intensity cardio session. During lactic acid training you will be lifting the weights very slow, 3-4 seconds, and lower them pretty fast, usually 1 second. In short, you will be doing this because when you are lifting the body will create lactic acid and as lactic acid is created the production and release of growth hormone increases. The HIIT and cardio sessions is to speed up the fat loss.

The shake day: Consume twio protein+carbs shake in the morning and threeprotein+fat shakes in the afternoon. As for training you will be doing some strength-based resistance training in addition to one lower intensity cardio session.

The moderate carb day: Eat two meals in the morning containing protein+carbs, eat three meals containing protein+fat in the afternoon. Ideally you should be doing a dynamic training (metabolic circuits) in the morning followed by a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.

The protein-only depletion day: Eat 5 meals of protein during the day and perform a lactic acid training and a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.


You can eat some vegetables every day except the fast day.


I've done this for two weeks now and i've lost like 4-5 pounds in body weight but there is no way I can do all these workouts every day, it's just too much. Not only do you work out every day, each workout have 7-9 exercisesl with 2-5 sets and pretty high reps as well. Add two HIIT sessions and three cardio sessions and I felt sooo burned out after 1½ cycles. Anyway your thoughts on this?

Whatever you do, stick with the plan, don't mix and match or read another article and try to add that in, just do what the plan prescribes.

If you're making progress right now, there is no need to switch.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 23 2010 23:09 GMT
#1792
wtf a fast day and a cheat day? That just sounds really dumb. How are you gonna workout with no food for a day?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
July 23 2010 23:33 GMT
#1793
japeofija bad day.
gym was closed at school so i lifted at my friends basement. which kills the mood. anyways did 10x210 8x285 6x315 4x335 4x365 and then only got 2.5 out of my 4x385
Did 310/330/360 all +5 pounds because i was too lazy to find the weights, probably fucked me in the end. Thats all i did. I guess i'll just have to dominate my deadlifts on monday and really get jacked up to do 2x410 for squat on wednesday.

On the bright side i think i'm shifting towards posterior dominant, at least in my lower half lol. My back + chest are decently close and my hamstrings/lower back are getting fucking huge, it looks awesome when i flex my hamstring and theres this huge ball of muscle at the back of my leg :D




On July 24 2010 05:22 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 01:54 Necosarius wrote:
Ok so I've got my hands on Joel Marions Xtreme fat loss diet, if you guys knows who he is, and I want to hear your thoughts about this diet. I will keep it quite short since he writes about a lot of stuff. Basically this program is designed to burn as much fat as possible in 25 days. There is 5 cycles and each cycle is 5 days long and you will be working out every single day.

This is how each cycle looks like in short:
+ Show Spoiler +
The cheat day: The cycle begins with the cheat day. You can eat everything you want without stuffing yourself. Eat throughout the day and eat until you are satisfied, not until you feel discomfort, and don't consume alcohol. You will perform a density training in the afternoon to build muscle during this day.

The fast day: You won't eat a single thing. Nothing at all. The only things you can consume during the day is water or some other non-calorie fluids and BCAAs. During this day you will burn the most fat so you will be doing a lactic acid workout, a HIIT session and one lower intensity cardio session. During lactic acid training you will be lifting the weights very slow, 3-4 seconds, and lower them pretty fast, usually 1 second. In short, you will be doing this because when you are lifting the body will create lactic acid and as lactic acid is created the production and release of growth hormone increases. The HIIT and cardio sessions is to speed up the fat loss.

The shake day: Consume twio protein+carbs shake in the morning and threeprotein+fat shakes in the afternoon. As for training you will be doing some strength-based resistance training in addition to one lower intensity cardio session.

The moderate carb day: Eat two meals in the morning containing protein+carbs, eat three meals containing protein+fat in the afternoon. Ideally you should be doing a dynamic training (metabolic circuits) in the morning followed by a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.

The protein-only depletion day: Eat 5 meals of protein during the day and perform a lactic acid training and a lower intensity cardio session in the evening.


You can eat some vegetables every day except the fast day.


I've done this for two weeks now and i've lost like 4-5 pounds in body weight but there is no way I can do all these workouts every day, it's just too much. Not only do you work out every day, each workout have 7-9 exercisesl with 2-5 sets and pretty high reps as well. Add two HIIT sessions and three cardio sessions and I felt sooo burned out after 1½ cycles. Anyway your thoughts on this?

Whatever you do, stick with the plan, don't mix and match or read another article and try to add that in, just do what the plan prescribes.

If you're making progress right now, there is no need to switch.


Yes there is, he could be doing something healthier and more effective.


how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 24 2010 01:16 GMT
#1794
On July 24 2010 03:15 unknown.sam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 02:04 eshlow wrote:
On July 24 2010 01:40 unknown.sam wrote:
the weights for the overhead press was just sooooo today. form was absolutely terrible. my whole body was shaking like crazy once the bar went overhead lol. i had such a hard time balancing the bar my quads ended up getting taxed a ton. only ended up doing 3x4 but it sure was fun though

@eshlow: avoid wheat products?! i've been eating wheat bread for like over a year now thinking it was healthy...what kind of bread do you suggest then if wheat/white bread are no good?


No bread is ideal. But if must eat bread then either go with white bread or sprouted bread. Sprouted obviously being a bit superior.... but really you don't really need bread if you're eating well.

Reason being that wheat especially has a lot of gut irritants that cause a lot of inflammation.

wow. i'm shocked...all the stuff i read (like maybe a year ago) said that wheat bread was healthier. so i guess since you're not a fan of grains, wholegrain bread is out of the picture too?

meh fuck the bread man. i'll just go buy me some fruit. i've been planning on having apples/pears/bananas/oranges for snacks in between meals rather than having a peanut butter sandwich. would that be too much sugar?


Try some nuts or coconut or avocados for example?

Fruit is fine... in moderation
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
July 24 2010 02:38 GMT
#1795
On July 24 2010 01:05 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 18:22 Energies wrote:
On July 23 2010 15:16 decafchicken wrote:
Catching up on my calories via beer. good idea or best idea?


Superb idea, I will join you!


Carb flooding right?


I have a throbbing Carb headache this morning.. ;(.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 24 2010 03:09 GMT
#1796
wahhhh first time failing on back squats in awhile But I finally got to snatch again!!!! only did sets at 40 lol. injuries are a pain, there is a competition tomarrow that i cant go to (((((((((((((((

How can you guys live without carbs, dont you guys eat rice?!?!?!!? ( I assume most of us are asian in here)
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 24 2010 04:27 GMT
#1797





LOL. Must fucking watch.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
July 24 2010 04:48 GMT
#1798
Haha, those were great.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
July 24 2010 06:01 GMT
#1799
oh my god that was fucking hilarious.

and no we're not all asian lol. i havent had rice in like weeks. a few pieces of bread is pretty much the only whole carb food i have in a day
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
July 24 2010 06:47 GMT
#1800
"You can man up and stop whining like a fucking pussy. If you want me to be completely honest, you should get a goddamn haircut and stop wearing your sisters jeans. All of these things will improve your deadlift and stop backpain."

bwahahhaha That was inspirational.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
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