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Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
July 08 2010 04:32 GMT
#1601
Grains can be a very nutritious food, but the truth is we haven't adapted to them as a species. We've only been eating them for about 10,000 years. Some of us can digest them well though, I guess we're mutants :D. I do very well on grains myself, but I avoid wheat in any form.
AncienTs
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 04:39:36
July 08 2010 04:39 GMT
#1602
Age: 23 || Height: 5'8" || Weight: 140.7lbs, 63.8kg
Starting Date: july 2010 || Goal Date: january 2011
Weight goals -- same weight, except replace fat with muscle
Training goals -- 3mile run per day at 7mph / p90x regiment
Nutrition goals -- hm... eat normally with a focus on healthy stuff like blueberries...etc.
Misc goals -- tbd
Starcraft Disclaimer Language: There is no imbalance, nothing is OP.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 08 2010 06:12 GMT
#1603
On July 08 2010 11:07 Hynda wrote:
Over here it's named "Råris" which translates directly to raw rice. It's rice that havn't been peeled and polished meaning it has a sort of brown/gray shell around it that contains bucket loads of energy and other stuff that's good for you. The down side is that it takes roughly 45 minutes to cook and the taste is not for everyone, it can often feel flakey and a bit earthy.

I should also add that, that's a monster meal. Something you eat if you have a very active day ahead of you, trying to burn that off in just a day will require some heavy work. I wouldn't recommend it as something "in between meals".

Is this different from brown rice? They sound like they're the same.

And if anyone eats Japanese rice, there's an "in-between" variant called Haiga which keeps the kernel or something like that. It's more nutritious than white, less nutritious than brown, but tastes a lot closer to white.

Right now I'm eating multi-grain rice which is a combination of different kinds of rice and grain (like barley). I also throw in some Ezekiel bread. Ezekiel bread French Toast is still delicious. =)
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 08 2010 11:39 GMT
#1604
On July 08 2010 15:12 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 11:07 Hynda wrote:
Over here it's named "Råris" which translates directly to raw rice. It's rice that havn't been peeled and polished meaning it has a sort of brown/gray shell around it that contains bucket loads of energy and other stuff that's good for you. The down side is that it takes roughly 45 minutes to cook and the taste is not for everyone, it can often feel flakey and a bit earthy.

I should also add that, that's a monster meal. Something you eat if you have a very active day ahead of you, trying to burn that off in just a day will require some heavy work. I wouldn't recommend it as something "in between meals".

Is this different from brown rice? They sound like they're the same.

And if anyone eats Japanese rice, there's an "in-between" variant called Haiga which keeps the kernel or something like that. It's more nutritious than white, less nutritious than brown, but tastes a lot closer to white.

Right now I'm eating multi-grain rice which is a combination of different kinds of rice and grain (like barley). I also throw in some Ezekiel bread. Ezekiel bread French Toast is still delicious. =)

I did some more reading up and it's just brown rice that has been treated to not take so long to cook, so yea, it's pretty much browrice.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 15:03:04
July 08 2010 15:00 GMT
#1605
i like whenever I do abs really hardcore and then I go to my car and it feels like I can't breathe

totally awesome

i've put on 7 pounds since starting 2 weeks ago

btw I'm trying to keep count of my weight and how my workouts went and shit. is there like a good online calendar for this? I used a calendar online when I was running in high school to keep track of my mileage and times daily, but I can't find anything for like workout out and shit.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 08 2010 19:19 GMT
#1606
mOnion, http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/ is a good one :D
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
July 08 2010 19:36 GMT
#1607
On July 09 2010 04:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
mOnion, http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/ is a good one :D


dam that is awesome

ty so much!

for anyone who doesn't use a calendar I reeeeeally recommend it. It might not seem like much but keeping track of what you're doing physically is incredibly encouraging and pivotal in increasing your abilities.

it was a requirement at my high school for running and I became addicted to it, me and my team would check each others and shit, its like athletic facebook, except not shitty.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 08 2010 23:40 GMT
#1608
On July 08 2010 13:32 Hollow wrote:
Grains can be a very nutritious food, but the truth is we haven't adapted to them as a species. We've only been eating them for about 10,000 years. Some of us can digest them well though, I guess we're mutants :D. I do very well on grains myself, but I avoid wheat in any form.


Re wheat in particular:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/07/wheat-is-invading-china.html
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st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
July 09 2010 09:04 GMT
#1609
On July 08 2010 13:10 Sabu113 wrote:
Quick question while everyone's on the topic of foodish stuff. As far as supplements go, what's your opinion on trader joes Protein powder versus getting a cliff bar or some other protein bar. Actually thinking about it, both work out to about the same cost per month. $12ish?

Edit: Silly now thikning that the cost ends up being the same.



Just forget protein bars , they full with corn syrup , soya and preservatives aka full of sugar , estrogens and ... well preservatives , just forget them .


About oat meals , well

" Two things here. First, Asians are part of the 25% of the world population that are carbohydrate adapted. Provided they're plain carbs, they can eat them and still remain lean.

Asians can tolerate carbs more because their culture has had agriculture longer than other cultures; they're adapted. (On that same note, perhaps soy is bad for Caucasians but not so bad for Asians. Think about it.) But, most Asians can't tolerate diary. It just hasn't been around long in their diets.

Second, you're not Asian, and oatmeal is the most common food allergen. It comes from the grass family after all.

In 2001 I ran blood work on every single one of my clients using six different labs. Oatmeal always came out as the most frequent food allergen. It can raise cortisol and lead to the storage of fat in the abdominal area.

I'm anti-oatmeal, especially for Caucasians. Quinoa may be a better choice. "

i dont agree 100% about the adaptation thing but yea unless ur really ripped eating oat meal thinking is a good food esp for getting leaner , well it just doesnt cut it .

HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
July 09 2010 11:21 GMT
#1610
Want to live longer? Eat healthy!

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Dieting Monkeys Offer Hope for Living Longer

The Meaning of Life
Calendaraka Foxhan
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 12:43:15
July 09 2010 12:37 GMT
#1611
On July 09 2010 20:21 HaN- wrote:
Want to live longer? Eat healthy!

[image loading]


Dieting Monkeys Offer Hope for Living Longer

The Meaning of Life


WTF is this garbage. Bacon and eggs are healthier than most of the other stuff on the left.

It's just they combined it with toast & bread, french fries, mashed potatoes, etc.

No justification for a plant only diet. Have you read any critical analysis on the china studies? Here's a compilation of it:

http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2010/07/there-is-no-justification-for-plant.html


And also, caloric restriction is ehhhh. No one is going to voluntartily eat JUST a little more than it would take to be anorexic. Except people with eating disorders.

True, caloric restriction makes most mammals live longer. But who in their right mind is going to cut to a near starvation diet to do it?
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StimD
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Norway738 Posts
July 09 2010 14:03 GMT
#1612
Do you guys have any experiences with rounded shoulders? My left shoulder suddently started hurting a few weeks ago, and my physiotherapist told me that I've over-focused on pressing exercises in my training regime. Can't really understand that, I've been doing a lot of pull ups the last few years. Anyway, he told me to exclude my chest training for a while and focus more on pulling exercises. He further gave me a stretching exercise that he told me to do as many times a day as I felt like, and also recommended me a rotator cuff exercise.

Should I just neglect my chest (gasp) and do more pulling exercises until it gets better? Which exercises would you recommend? I'm currently doing a lot of face-pulls, seated rowing and incline lateral raises. Any suggestions?
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 09 2010 14:22 GMT
#1613
On July 09 2010 23:03 StimD wrote:
Do you guys have any experiences with rounded shoulders? My left shoulder suddently started hurting a few weeks ago, and my physiotherapist told me that I've over-focused on pressing exercises in my training regime. Can't really understand that, I've been doing a lot of pull ups the last few years. Anyway, he told me to exclude my chest training for a while and focus more on pulling exercises. He further gave me a stretching exercise that he told me to do as many times a day as I felt like, and also recommended me a rotator cuff exercise.

Should I just neglect my chest (gasp) and do more pulling exercises until it gets better? Which exercises would you recommend? I'm currently doing a lot of face-pulls, seated rowing and incline lateral raises. Any suggestions?

You can ask yourself this. Do I want to stop training for a few weeks for this to get better or do I want to spend the rest of my life in cronic shoulderpains that ristrict me from training.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 14:32:17
July 09 2010 14:24 GMT
#1614
On July 08 2010 08:35 eshlow wrote:
I don't recommend grains at all.. for anyone.


I suppose it depends on your workout regime; I work out 5-6 days a week with vigorous exercise (easing into marathon training as I get over a knee injury). Having rolled oats (none of that packaged garbage you get at the grocery store full of sugar) in boiled water with a little bit of cinnamon is a decent way to get the carbs into your system to start your day. It assists with brain function as your body has been deprived of carbohydrates for a long period of time while sleeping, as well as it helps fuel your body for your day's workout. Of course, there are other means in which you can get carbs early in the morning; such as a non-fat, fruit smoothie (which I often do for variety).

I do agree, humans do not need grains at all, and any intake of them should be STRONGLY limited. The nutrients you get from grains can be easily acquired from other food sources. I limit myself to approximately half a cup of oatmeal for my grain intake 4-5 days a week. I eat it as it is a healthy, cheap, and quick way to fill one's stomach and bolster energy levels.

If my workout schedule was much more limited than it is now, I would stray away from grains completely. Bread, of course, should always be out of the question as well as all forms of pasta especially (unless carbo loading for long distance running).
StimD
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Norway738 Posts
July 09 2010 15:37 GMT
#1615
On July 09 2010 23:22 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 23:03 StimD wrote:
Do you guys have any experiences with rounded shoulders? My left shoulder suddently started hurting a few weeks ago, and my physiotherapist told me that I've over-focused on pressing exercises in my training regime. Can't really understand that, I've been doing a lot of pull ups the last few years. Anyway, he told me to exclude my chest training for a while and focus more on pulling exercises. He further gave me a stretching exercise that he told me to do as many times a day as I felt like, and also recommended me a rotator cuff exercise.

Should I just neglect my chest (gasp) and do more pulling exercises until it gets better? Which exercises would you recommend? I'm currently doing a lot of face-pulls, seated rowing and incline lateral raises. Any suggestions?

You can ask yourself this. Do I want to stop training for a few weeks for this to get better or do I want to spend the rest of my life in cronic shoulderpains that ristrict me from training.


Thanks for nothing. Working out or not isn't the issue; I have to do the recommended rotator cuff exercises as well as more pulling exercises in order to fix the problem. Still wondering if anybody has had similar issues and/or tips.
deerrreas
Profile Joined July 2010
11 Posts
July 09 2010 17:05 GMT
#1616
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
July 09 2010 17:05 GMT
#1617
On July 09 2010 21:37 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 20:21 HaN- wrote:
Want to live longer? Eat healthy!

[image loading]


Dieting Monkeys Offer Hope for Living Longer

The Meaning of Life


WTF is this garbage. Bacon and eggs are healthier than most of the other stuff on the left.

It's just they combined it with toast & bread, french fries, mashed potatoes, etc.

No justification for a plant only diet. Have you read any critical analysis on the china studies? Here's a compilation of it:

http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2010/07/there-is-no-justification-for-plant.html


And also, caloric restriction is ehhhh. No one is going to voluntartily eat JUST a little more than it would take to be anorexic. Except people with eating disorders.

True, caloric restriction makes most mammals live longer. But who in their right mind is going to cut to a near starvation diet to do it?


also I can tell you which monkey gets laid more
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 09 2010 17:12 GMT
#1618
On July 10 2010 02:05 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 21:37 eshlow wrote:
On July 09 2010 20:21 HaN- wrote:
Want to live longer? Eat healthy!

[image loading]


Dieting Monkeys Offer Hope for Living Longer

The Meaning of Life


WTF is this garbage. Bacon and eggs are healthier than most of the other stuff on the left.

It's just they combined it with toast & bread, french fries, mashed potatoes, etc.

No justification for a plant only diet. Have you read any critical analysis on the china studies? Here's a compilation of it:

http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2010/07/there-is-no-justification-for-plant.html


And also, caloric restriction is ehhhh. No one is going to voluntartily eat JUST a little more than it would take to be anorexic. Except people with eating disorders.

True, caloric restriction makes most mammals live longer. But who in their right mind is going to cut to a near starvation diet to do it?


also I can tell you which monkey gets laid more


he is also a lot more toned
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st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
July 09 2010 17:53 GMT
#1619
Lol at the tofu.

All soya products is a big scam ffs .

it used to be cheap food for animals that had excess quantities left overs.

So brilliant marketists thought why not promoting them as a healthy food and make millions if not billions.

Soya products are the most estrogen ones for males.

Fyi in u.s alone after so many soya products esp the milk ones , even babies with the latest research are full of estrogens and have various problems , women have miss cycles ( or howerver u can pronounce that ) etc.

About the vegan thing is been discussed in all those years so much it not even fun , homo sapiens arent a vegan specie btw.

Its not how many years you live but how you live them

and its not my birthday ;p
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
July 09 2010 18:02 GMT
#1620
both those monkeys were fed shit diets. you dont need to calorically restrict to look good. the likely explanation is that caloric-restriction kept insulin at bay, while it goes haywire on a calorically normal shit diet.

fortunately, you can do the same by restricting carbohydrates, particularly easily digested and refined carbs, without the CR.

see: http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2009/7/14/calorie-restricted-monkeys-part-i.html
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