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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 29 2010 20:42 GMT
#821
Weighed in today at 186, only 14 pounds short of my goal. 200, here I come baby Only pussies cut for the summer.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 22:28:24
April 29 2010 22:21 GMT
#822
Went for 180kgx5 (396lb) Deadlift today. After that I was pumped to lift 200kg (440lb) for the first time, and managed to lock it out. Now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

My original goal for this year was 200x3. But since I should be able to do this within a month, my new goal for this year is a 500lb Deadlift.

Probably around 6-8 weeks till I will go for a 200kg Squat, I can't wait!
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
April 29 2010 22:22 GMT
#823
On April 30 2010 07:21 Malinor wrote:
Went for 180kgx5 (396lb) Deadlift today. After that I was pumped to lift 200kg (440lb) for the first time, and managed to lock it out. Now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

My original goal for this year was 200x3. But since I should be able to do this within a month, my new goal for this year is a 500lb Deadlift.

Probably around 6-8 weeks when I will go for a 200kg Squat, I can't wait!


gj, video tape it next time so we can see :D
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
May 01 2010 09:15 GMT
#824
I just wanted to give an uppdate. since its 1st may, and I put that as goal. I'm currently down at 96kg from 105kg. feels great! My goal was to reach under 90 by 1st may. I guess I'll have to be patient ^^
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 09:42:41
May 01 2010 09:36 GMT
#825
This is a nice idea for a thread. I apologize for not reading through all of the responses, but I did skim through some of them. Seeing other people's results motivates me more than seeing my own actually .

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe
Age: 25 || Height: 6'3"/191 cm || Weight: 205lbs/91 kilograms, 16.5% body fat
Starting Date: 04/01/2010 || Goal Date: 09/01/2010
Weight goals -- 190 - 205 lbs
Nutrition goals -- Better eating habits without the following: processed sugars, poor sources of carbohydrates, and foods with high glycemic index. One gram of protein per pound of body weight per day.
Misc goals -- 10% body fat.

Training Regimen: P90X Doubles Program; at the time of this post, day 28.
Main Sources of Calories: + Show Spoiler +

Breakfast
Oatmeal (no instant sweetened crap)
Bananas
Eggs
Whole bran cereal

Lunch
Canned tuna
Whole grain wheat bread
Avocados
Tomatoes

Dinner
Salmon filets
Boneless skinless chicken breasts
Spinach
Mushrooms
Lean shredded beef
Pork chops
Asparagus
Broccoli

Snacks
Mixed nuts
Peanut butter
Cottage cheese

Drinks
4+ liters of water a day
Green tea
Milk

Resting Metabolic Rate: 1998 calories/day
Goal Calorie Intake: 1800-2200 calories/day
Goal Calorie Deficit: 700-900 calories/day
Supplements Whey protein after a workout for recovery.
Calories Burned Per P90X Workout:+ Show Spoiler +

Chest/Back: 600
Plyometrics: 1100
Shoulders/Arms: 700
Yoga: 750
Legs and Back: 700
Kenpo: 750
Stretch: 250
Core Synergistics: 800
Cardio X: 650
Ab Ripper: 240


I have a lot of muscle on my body, but my body fat percentage is a bit too high to look ripped. If I lower the amount of fat that I have, I'll look great. Based on my body fat percentage (16.5%) and my body weight (205 pounds), I have 6.5% of my body fat to lose, or 13 pounds of fat that needs to go for me to reach my goal. This, based on the formula of one pound of body fat being made up of 3500 calories, works out to me needing to burn 45500 calories past what I consume to reach my goal; obviously, however, some days I will have a greater deficit than others, and weight loss is not this straightforward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's basically it.

Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 06:46:10
May 01 2010 12:23 GMT
#826
^great stuff.

I remember last time I was as dedicated as you. (Sept/Oct Last year). Managed to cut down to a six pack.

Last 4 months though ;(. Drinking and eating. I'm about 6-8lb overweight in terms of figures. But realistically probably 10lb overweight with muscle loss.

I fly out to Nepal next week to do a 3 week trek through the mountains, hopefully that diet and constant exercise will get me back into reasonable shape.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
May 01 2010 16:53 GMT
#827
On April 30 2010 07:21 Malinor wrote:
Went for 180kgx5 (396lb) Deadlift today. After that I was pumped to lift 200kg (440lb) for the first time, and managed to lock it out. Now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

My original goal for this year was 200x3. But since I should be able to do this within a month, my new goal for this year is a 500lb Deadlift.

Probably around 6-8 weeks till I will go for a 200kg Squat, I can't wait!


Very nice, i think i'll be maxing out on deadlift this week, hopefully my hammy is up to strength, and we'll see how close we are. I'll race you to 200kg squat (assuming i have somewhere to workout this summer ) What's your workout look like?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Ironson
Profile Joined February 2008
20 Posts
May 01 2010 16:57 GMT
#828
@RosaParksStoleMySeat: Where are you getting your "Calories Burned Per P90X Workout" numbers? They are incredibly optimistic. Unless your sessions last 5-6 hours, it would be more realistic to take those values and divide by 5.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 01 2010 17:10 GMT
#829
On May 01 2010 21:23 Energies wrote:
I fly out to Nepal next week to do a 3 week trek through the mountains, hopefully that diet and constant exercise will get me back into reasonable shape.


oh dang that sounds fun
did u get a sherpa?
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 19:50:43
May 01 2010 19:47 GMT
#830
On May 02 2010 01:53 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 07:21 Malinor wrote:
Went for 180kgx5 (396lb) Deadlift today. After that I was pumped to lift 200kg (440lb) for the first time, and managed to lock it out. Now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

My original goal for this year was 200x3. But since I should be able to do this within a month, my new goal for this year is a 500lb Deadlift.

Probably around 6-8 weeks till I will go for a 200kg Squat, I can't wait!


Very nice, i think i'll be maxing out on deadlift this week, hopefully my hammy is up to strength, and we'll see how close we are. I'll race you to 200kg squat (assuming i have somewhere to workout this summer ) What's your workout look like?


I am doing Madcow's 5x5. Mainlifts exactly as laid out in the programm, assistance work varies depending on time constraints, smaller injuries and mood. The last 2-3 weeks I nearly didn't do anything at all.
I mostly do Dips, Power Shrugs, Good Mornings, some DB-Press variations, Sit-Ups and Assisted Chins (still carry too much weight to do correct ones -.-).
Like Brotosterone, I can highly recommend that programm. Fun and rewarding
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 21:40:57
May 01 2010 21:21 GMT
#831
On April 28 2010 02:20 Romance_us wrote:
Would doing really heavy sets of 3-5 be more effective for general hypertrophy than lighter sets at 8-10 reps? And I'm talking main compound lifts, specifically squatting, dead lifting, and bench pressing.



At the novice phase, yes. You'll get the best results being able to add weight to each workout and doing exercises in the 8-10 rep range will make this difficult. If you took two identical novice trainees and had them doing the exact same program but one did sets of 5x3 and one did sets of 10x3, the 5x3 guy is going to have both more "general hypertrophy" as well as a higher level of strength because he was able to add weight each session more regularly and progress linearly.

When you're an intermediate/advanced lifter and your progression is weekly or monthly, then maybe experiment with higher rep work. FWIW I'm squatting 275x5x3 and deadlifting 342.5x5 @ 200lbs bw and I am still a novice lifter. If you're as strong as decafchicken, Malinor, or brotosterone, then maybe think about high rep work. Otherwise forget about it.

20-rep squat routines might be ok though. That's where you essentially take your squat 10rm or a little under it and do it for 20 reps by taking very long breathes between reps after 10, you can't rack the weight though.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 03:50:10
May 02 2010 03:43 GMT
#832
On May 02 2010 01:57 Ironson wrote:
@RosaParksStoleMySeat: Where are you getting your "Calories Burned Per P90X Workout" numbers? They are incredibly optimistic. Unless your sessions last 5-6 hours, it would be more realistic to take those values and divide by 5.


First of all, I'm using a heart rate monitor. As I'm sure you know, it calculates calories burned base on body weight and intensity level.

P90X is a high intensity interval training program, so the idea of an hour to an hour and a half of vigorous exercising only burning 150 calories is pretty ridiculous, especially considering my resting metabolic rate alone nearly burns that many.

Really, considering the fact that walking at 4mph for 60 minutes at 200 pounds burns 468 calories, there is absolutely no way that my numbers are "incredibly optimistic."

If I may ask, what exactly are you basing your response on? It just makes no sense whatsoever. Can you elaborate further?

Last 4 months though ;(. Drinking and eating. I'm about 6.8 overweight in terms of figures. But realistically probably 10lb overweight with muscle loss.

I fly out to Nepal next week to do a 3 week trek through the mountains, hopefully that diet and constant exercise will get me back into reasonable shape.


Thanks for the encouragement ;D.

I'm personally getting into shape after a winter of complete laziness. You know, I was always a bit soft in my core area. Even when I was benching 270~ or so at 230 pounds, I still had this awful gut. All of the white rice and snack food I've been eating (my girlfriend is absolutely terrible with shopping and going out to eat) has been killing my physique even more. Luckily, I'm not all that bad off now. According to my figures I only have two more months to go to reach my goals, although I am pretty sure it won't be that straightforward. In any case, if I'm down to 12% body fat by the end of this program, I'll be plenty happy.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
May 02 2010 06:45 GMT
#833
On May 02 2010 02:10 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 21:23 Energies wrote:
I fly out to Nepal next week to do a 3 week trek through the mountains, hopefully that diet and constant exercise will get me back into reasonable shape.


oh dang that sounds fun
did u get a sherpa?


Yeah, I'm going by myself, but joining up with a group of strangers. We'll have sherpas and cooks come with us along the way. Should be a fun experience.

I still have lower back pain and occasional spasms. I hope I can fix that by next week.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
May 02 2010 06:50 GMT
#834
On May 02 2010 12:43 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 01:57 Ironson wrote:
@RosaParksStoleMySeat: Where are you getting your "Calories Burned Per P90X Workout" numbers? They are incredibly optimistic. Unless your sessions last 5-6 hours, it would be more realistic to take those values and divide by 5.


First of all, I'm using a heart rate monitor. As I'm sure you know, it calculates calories burned base on body weight and intensity level.

P90X is a high intensity interval training program, so the idea of an hour to an hour and a half of vigorous exercising only burning 150 calories is pretty ridiculous, especially considering my resting metabolic rate alone nearly burns that many.

Really, considering the fact that walking at 4mph for 60 minutes at 200 pounds burns 468 calories, there is absolutely no way that my numbers are "incredibly optimistic."

If I may ask, what exactly are you basing your response on? It just makes no sense whatsoever. Can you elaborate further?


I guess it all depends how overweight you are and your fitness level.

I would only burn maybe 200-300 calories in a 30 min run, so I tend to rely a lot more on the afterburn of weight lifting, interval training and being a lot more strict on my diet.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
May 02 2010 07:33 GMT
#835
On May 02 2010 04:47 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 01:53 decafchicken wrote:
On April 30 2010 07:21 Malinor wrote:
Went for 180kgx5 (396lb) Deadlift today. After that I was pumped to lift 200kg (440lb) for the first time, and managed to lock it out. Now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

My original goal for this year was 200x3. But since I should be able to do this within a month, my new goal for this year is a 500lb Deadlift.

Probably around 6-8 weeks till I will go for a 200kg Squat, I can't wait!


Very nice, i think i'll be maxing out on deadlift this week, hopefully my hammy is up to strength, and we'll see how close we are. I'll race you to 200kg squat (assuming i have somewhere to workout this summer ) What's your workout look like?


I am doing Madcow's 5x5. Mainlifts exactly as laid out in the programm, assistance work varies depending on time constraints, smaller injuries and mood. The last 2-3 weeks I nearly didn't do anything at all.
I mostly do Dips, Power Shrugs, Good Mornings, some DB-Press variations, Sit-Ups and Assisted Chins (still carry too much weight to do correct ones -.-).
Like Brotosterone, I can highly recommend that programm. Fun and rewarding


Yeah i might switch back to a 5x5 or something else this summer. What's your height/weight at?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 08:43:46
May 02 2010 08:43 GMT
#836
On May 02 2010 15:50 Energies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 12:43 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
On May 02 2010 01:57 Ironson wrote:
@RosaParksStoleMySeat: Where are you getting your "Calories Burned Per P90X Workout" numbers? They are incredibly optimistic. Unless your sessions last 5-6 hours, it would be more realistic to take those values and divide by 5.


First of all, I'm using a heart rate monitor. As I'm sure you know, it calculates calories burned base on body weight and intensity level.

P90X is a high intensity interval training program, so the idea of an hour to an hour and a half of vigorous exercising only burning 150 calories is pretty ridiculous, especially considering my resting metabolic rate alone nearly burns that many.

Really, considering the fact that walking at 4mph for 60 minutes at 200 pounds burns 468 calories, there is absolutely no way that my numbers are "incredibly optimistic."

If I may ask, what exactly are you basing your response on? It just makes no sense whatsoever. Can you elaborate further?


I guess it all depends how overweight you are and your fitness level.

I would only burn maybe 200-300 calories in a 30 min run, so I tend to rely a lot more on the afterburn of weight lifting, interval training and being a lot more strict on my diet.


Well, first of all, it has nothing to do with being overweight and a lot to do with size. I am 6'3, 205 pounds at 16.5% body fat, and in pretty decent shape, but I do burn a lot of calories due to my mass. While a severely overweight person does burn more calories doing practically any activity, it isn't because of their poor physique, but because of the fact that their heart has to pump blood at a greater rate to feed their body.

How much do you weigh? 200-300 calories in 30 minutes of running (depending on the intensity) doesn't seem all that bad, but a figure is meaningless without hearing about your body mass.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
May 02 2010 13:00 GMT
#837
You're right, I should have used size rather than say overweight which is misleading. In regards to fitness level though, the fitter you are the more efficient your body is, so it uses a lot less energy to do the same activity, which is part the reason why cardio will never be as efficient as weight training for fat loss.

My figures.
I'm 5'7 - 158lb - 15-16% bf.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15343 Posts
May 02 2010 13:24 GMT
#838
How do you guys know your BF%? I googled this calculation to get the BF from BMI:

(1.20 x BMI) + (0.23 x Age) - (10.8) - 5.4

which gives me a BF% of 13. Going by that term just reducing the BF% to 12 would mean I'd have to be close to starvation (and some people have mentioned a goal of 10% in this thread). So, since I suppose the BMI calculation is only applicable within certain limits where do you guys get your BF% from?
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
May 02 2010 13:30 GMT
#839
On May 02 2010 22:24 zatic wrote:
How do you guys know your BF%? I googled this calculation to get the BF from BMI:

(1.20 x BMI) + (0.23 x Age) - (10.8) - 5.4

which gives me a BF% of 13. Going by that term just reducing the BF% to 12 would mean I'd have to be close to starvation (and some people have mentioned a goal of 10% in this thread). So, since I suppose the BMI calculation is only applicable within certain limits where do you guys get your BF% from?


I second that question. I googled this once and found like 10 different ways to estimate BF, and the results weren't even close.
And most test machines in gyms are not accurate because they cannot perform a full body scan.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 13:50:22
May 02 2010 13:49 GMT
#840
I wouldn't say 10% is starvation. Most people don't get to see a full 6 pack until 9-12%. Professional athletes (males) are typically 6-8%. A lot lightweight to middleweight boxers you see at peak get as low as 4-5% body fat.

For me from 12-13% onwards becomes a very hard journey of carb cycling and interval exercises with tons of weight training in order to lower my body fat without losing muscle mass or going into starvation mode.

A couple of guys at my gym are quite proficient at using body fat calipers, I just ask them to test me once in a while. I did try one of those electronic scales a few times, but they are not very accurate and depend heavily on how hydrated you are.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
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